Udoka Facing Suspension/Udoka to Nets??

[Kuberski33]

I'm still confused as to what specifically happened. All these tweets and reports make it sound like they are sending Ime to Guantanamo Bay or something

Wyc needs to address this today I would think. Maybe this is potentially explosive in some way and they want to make sure they've covered themselves legally?  I think I agree with the assessment that Ime has coached his last game with the Celtics - which would be unfortunate, for a lot of reasons.

[footey]

Other than Brogdan this off-season has been a disaster.

Eh, not sure I agree. Gallo=overrated regular season player. Rob Williams had a cleanup procedure. I think that’s a good thing. I’m excited about Brogdon, and so is Vegas. The Celtics are in great shape.

I agree with CIO, in that, if you exclude the fantastic Brogdon trade (which of course you can't do in an overall evaluation) the off-season has been a bad one.

We went into the off-season with a $17.1 million TPE, the Taxpayer MLE, a couple of other TPEs, and several open roster slots. 

We've come out of the off-season getting no production from our T-MLE, we let the big TPE expire, and we've filled the roster slots with fringe NBA players.  We've upgraded at backup PG in a big way, but we've downgraded at backup center.  Now, our starting center is out for perhaps a month, assuming he heals correctly (i.e., not like Lonzo Ball).  And, our really good coach who the team had bonded with is gone for as much as a season.

To me, that's a disaster.  It's not "a Brown gouged Tatum's eye out in a cage match" disaster, but it's pretty bad.

Complaining about nonuse of $17mm TPE is unfair. You have no idea who was available and at what cost. We had just landed Gallo and Brogdan and would have been foolish to shell out $70 mm for a one year bench rental.

[footey]

I’m watching The Americans TV series and of course I’m convinced the compromising employee is a Laker spy.

[Kuberski33]

OK here's a theory - maybe there was an offer to pay someone off to keep this from going public - from either side.

[Kuberski33]

OK here's a theory - maybe there was an offer to pay someone off to keep this from going public - or maybe a request for cash for the same?

[BudweiserCeltic]

Yeah, unless we get some really serious details on this, I'm not buying the full season suspension... that's beyond dumb for having an affair. A consensual one at that.

This seems like a naive interpretation. Power dynamics make consent murky at best and impossible at worst. It creates a terrible environment for women, with a narrative that sleeping with the coach is a way to get ahead. Having an affair with someone you have power over is a huge no-no, and will get you canned from basically any job you can think of.

I couldn't care less.

Attitudes like this have led to innumerable instances of abuses of power get swept under the rug.

No. People ignoring when someone abuses their power is what gets swept under the rug. People not caring about 2 consensual adults having an affair is just that. If other details surface on this, then sure. But all we have to go for on here is that they had a consensual affair.

Other details, such as the employer in question thinking it problematic enough for a long-term suspension?

That's the employer's decision to make based on the rules they have and what they "think" is best. Doesn't mean that I have to care about 2 people having an affair.

[0003323344]

I'm still confused as to what specifically happened. All these tweets and reports make it sound like they are sending Ime to Guantanamo Bay or something

Wyc needs to address this today I would think. Maybe this is potentially explosive in some way and they want to make sure they've covered themselves legally?  I think I agree with the assessment that Ime has coached his last game with the Celtics - which would be unfortunate, for a lot of reasons.

Not a good optic for Ime to break the "guidelines". We may think the rules are "dumb" but rules are rules and he violated them allegedly. You never poop where you sleep especially in the work place, he should have known better. Things like this almost always come out somehow not to mention I think he is engaged and has a kid. If the suspension is for a year I would think he would resign before he sat out tht long. And really if they were to suspend him for that long they might as well just fire him. It would be too much of a distraction for the team.

[celticinorlando]

Seems heavy handed when Ime was single and not in a relationship anymore with nia long. Suspend 15 games. An entire season makes zero sense whatsoever for a consensual in house relationship

IF Joe M. does well Ime might be gone for good.

[0003323344]

Seems heavy handed when Ime was single and not in a relationship anymore with nia long. Suspend 15 games. An entire season makes zero sense whatsoever for a consensual in house relationship

Boston.com was reporting he is engaged but that could be wrong.

[celticinorlando]

Seems heavy handed when Ime was single and not in a relationship anymore with nia long. Suspend 15 games. An entire season makes zero sense whatsoever for a consensual in house relationship

Boston.com was reporting he is engaged but that could be wrong.

Saw he and nia split before this new relationship

[MarcusSmartFanClub]

Seems heavy handed when Ime was single and not in a relationship anymore with nia long. Suspend 15 games. An entire season makes zero sense whatsoever for a consensual in house relationship

IF Joe M. does well Ime might be gone for good.

I don’t think it matters if he had a relationship. What matters is that he had a “consensual” relationship with a subordinate.

[celticinorlando]

Seems heavy handed when Ime was single and not in a relationship anymore with nia long. Suspend 15 games. An entire season makes zero sense whatsoever for a consensual in house relationship

IF Joe M. does well Ime might be gone for good.

I don’t think it matters if he had a relationship. What matters is that he had a “consensual” relationship with a subordinate.

 Just having a consensual relationship is worth 82 games, the playoffs and maybe his job if Joe M. Does very well? Just seems like way too much

[Goldstar88]

Ime certainly looks like a scum bag as he and Nia were very likely still together during the finals. There were videos showing her cheering for Udoka and the Celtics on social media. Believe she was also at some of the games.

Regarding the power dynamic, other than choosing his assistant coaches (who are all male) what power does he have in that regard? Not saying it’s smart or that it looks good, but I’m not sure he should lose his job over this. Think suspending him for 1/3 of the season is enough. If they Do half the season or more, might as well just fire him and find a new coach.

[Phantom255x]

The only way I see this making sense is if there's more than one person involved here (not just Ime in the organization), or there's a pending lawsuit that the C's want to get out ahead of on.

Otherwise I kind of agree, not to condone Ime's actions but an entire season, potentially playoffs and his job? That seems excessive just based on what's been reported so far in terms of what he is being suspended for.

There's definitely more, and the C's better get out in front of it quick. It's not a good look that Woj + Shams are reporting things every hour, and also I think it's worse for the others who could be involved in this situation not named Ime (the women on the C's staff)

[tonydelk]

Seems heavy handed when Ime was single and not in a relationship anymore with nia long. Suspend 15 games. An entire season makes zero sense whatsoever for a consensual in house relationship

IF Joe M. does well Ime might be gone for good.

I don’t think it matters if he had a relationship. What matters is that he had a “consensual” relationship with a subordinate.

 Just having a consensual relationship is worth 82 games, the playoffs and maybe his job if Joe M. Does very well? Just seems like way too much

I didn't know he was single.  A full season is a lot for a consensual relationship.  I'm sure team rules are against this and for good reason but if the other party is willing to sign an affidavit stating this and both parties sign waivers (which any HR dept would do to cover the company) then there has to be more to this.  A single guy dating a work happens a lot.  I was thinking he was engaged and cheating.