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Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1245 on: January 11, 2023, 02:01:43 PM »

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Probably time for a rebuild in Baltimore. Trade him to one of the qb hungry teams for a treasure trove of assets.

They have as almost as bad skill players as the patriots and lamar doesn’t project as someone that will age well.
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Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1246 on: January 11, 2023, 02:18:02 PM »

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Probably time for a rebuild in Baltimore. Trade him to one of the qb hungry teams for a treasure trove of assets.

They have as almost as bad skill players as the patriots and lamar doesn’t project as someone that will age well.

I wonder if he'd get that treasure trove.  I wouldn't be in a hurry to trade a big package for Jackson, and still have to pay him $50 million per season. 


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Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1247 on: January 11, 2023, 02:54:30 PM »

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Probably time for a rebuild in Baltimore. Trade him to one of the qb hungry teams for a treasure trove of assets.

They have as almost as bad skill players as the patriots and lamar doesn’t project as someone that will age well.

I wonder if he'd get that treasure trove.  I wouldn't be in a hurry to trade a big package for Jackson, and still have to pay him $50 million per season.

I don't know.  Carson Wentz went for a 1st and 3rd rounder in 2021, and then a couple of third rounders and a 2nd round upgrade in 2022.  Teams can go crazy for a quarterback, and Jackson is worlds better than Wentz.

Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1248 on: January 11, 2023, 03:07:04 PM »

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I don't get the Buffalo love affair.  They are obviously a good team, but odds almost as good as the Chiefs and better than any NFC team.  I just don't see it.  Maybe they prove me wrong, but that seems like a bad bet.

Not sure it is a love affair but I certainly get why they are among the top teams that people are betting on to win the Super Bowl.  It will be tough to get out of the AFC "bracket" with KC and CIN but BUF is good.  And if they lose a close game on a neutral field to KC, what does that mean?  Or even if they lose to CIN?

I have more questions about all the NFC teams.  How far can SF go behind Purdy?  Are teams like PHI and DAL actually good?  MIN?  How good are they?  I don't think any of these NFC teams are as goods as the Bills.  SF's best win in the last 10 weeks or so is probably Seattle.  SF could be a team to watch, but I have my doubts.  MIN might be a good long shot bet based on their odds.  Getting through the NFC may not be all that hard and once you are in the Super Bowl, anything can happen.

I am not a bettor though.  Just an Opiner.

I'm curious, before the Hurts injury what didn't you like about the Eagles?  I frequently hear that they're pretenders, but I think that with Hurts healthy they're on the same level as Buffalo.

I don't know, nothing based on advanced analytics or anything, they just seem to have a pretty easy schedule.  They may well win the NFC.  To me, there is no clear favorite.  When Hurts is good, no doubt PHI is a contender.
They played 10 games against teams .500 or better (i.e. the 6 games in division, minny, det, pitt, jax).  The Chiefs only had the 2 against LAC, SF, Sea, Cin, Buf, Jax.  So just 7 games against teams .500 or better.  Same as the Bills with the Cincinnati game being cancelled.

7 of those 10 games were against teams that finished with 8-9 wins. So a whopping 3 games against teams that were .560 or better. Not particularly impressive.

In comparison the Bills also played 10 games against teams with 8 wins or more, and that's not including the canceled Cinci game.

I wouldn't call Philly's schedule easy by any stretch. I wouldn't call it tough either. More than anything it echoes the resounding mediocrity of the league.

16 teams finished with 7-9 wins. Literally half the NFL.
I was just disputing it was a pretty easy schedule, never said it was hard, but they played in the best division in the sport and played 3 games against teams with at least 12 wins (the Chiefs are the only other team with at least 11 wins to have also done that).

Fair enough. Their division is tough for sure. But I do think the nfc is pretty weak overall,  and they also got to play 4 games against the awful AFC South. Balanced for conference strength I'm not sure the NFC East is better than the AFC East or even West.

They're tough to evaluate. Are they a club that can beat top-tier contenders, or do they just feast on mediocre teams. I guess we'll see.

Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1249 on: January 11, 2023, 03:27:57 PM »

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Probably time for a rebuild in Baltimore. Trade him to one of the qb hungry teams for a treasure trove of assets.

They have as almost as bad skill players as the patriots and lamar doesn’t project as someone that will age well.

I wonder if he'd get that treasure trove.  I wouldn't be in a hurry to trade a big package for Jackson, and still have to pay him $50 million per season.

I think the jets would trade a lot for him. They have near championship level defense and assuming Breece hall comes
Back and looks the same, a pretty interesting receiving group that should only improve.

Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1250 on: January 11, 2023, 03:31:22 PM »

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Probably time for a rebuild in Baltimore. Trade him to one of the qb hungry teams for a treasure trove of assets.

They have as almost as bad skill players as the patriots and lamar doesn’t project as someone that will age well.


So they should add weapons.   Find a WR in the draft or better yet, trade for Hopkins.   

Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1251 on: January 11, 2023, 11:29:59 PM »

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Probably time for a rebuild in Baltimore. Trade him to one of the qb hungry teams for a treasure trove of assets.

They have as almost as bad skill players as the patriots and lamar doesn’t project as someone that will age well.


So they should add weapons.   Find a WR in the draft or better yet, trade for Hopkins.

Eh it’s kind of the same issue as the patriots. As much as I would like to believe the pats could add hopkins, obj and bring in Brady it seems like too much to really try and fill. I also think we probably have a better defense than Baltimore.

Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1252 on: January 12, 2023, 09:50:46 AM »

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Probably time for a rebuild in Baltimore. Trade him to one of the qb hungry teams for a treasure trove of assets.

They have as almost as bad skill players as the patriots and lamar doesn’t project as someone that will age well.


So they should add weapons.   Find a WR in the draft or better yet, trade for Hopkins.

Why would a WR want to even play for BAL with how that offense is built? Mark Andrews is like the only guy who gets targeted in that offense downfield.

It's the main reason Hollywood Brown demanded a trade and got one last offseason from BAL, for more/better opportunities. BAL's offense is designed for mobile QBs like Lamar/Huntley with other good RBs but it's not reliant on them throwing more than 25 times a game often.
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« Reply #1253 on: January 12, 2023, 09:58:24 AM »

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On a positive note, Damar Hamlin has been released from a Buffalo hospital to continue his recovery at home, continuing a remarkable recovery for a young man whose heart stopped for several minutes just a week and a bit ago.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35425908/bills-damar-hamlin-discharged-buffalo-hospital

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« Reply #1254 on: January 12, 2023, 10:11:49 AM »

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On a positive note, Damar Hamlin has been released from a Buffalo hospital to continue his recovery at home, continuing a remarkable recovery for a young man whose heart stopped for several minutes just a week and a bit ago.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35425908/bills-damar-hamlin-discharged-buffalo-hospital

Wonderful story. I wish nothing for the best for Hamlin.

Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1255 on: January 12, 2023, 10:12:52 AM »

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It’s Thursday and Lamar has missed 16 practices in a row. I don’t think he’s playing this weekend. What a colossal disaster by the Ravens front office.

Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1256 on: January 12, 2023, 10:18:11 AM »

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Totally forgot they had revised the playoff OT rules.

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This year, that won’t happen: The NFL changed its playoff overtime rules in the offseason, and now postseason games won’t end with a touchdown on the opening possession of overtime.


Now if a team scores a touchdown on the first possession of overtime, it will line up to kick an extra point or attempt a two-point conversion. Then that team will kick off, and the other team will get a chance to score a touchdown. If that team does score a touchdown, it will line up for an extra point or two-point conversion of its own. It’s possible that the game can end at that point: For instance, if the first team kicked an extra point, the second team can try a game-ending two-point conversion attempt. But if the score remains tied after both teams’ touchdowns, at that point the team that scored the second touchdown would kick off again, and from there on it would be sudden-death overtime.

The new rules could lead to some new strategies: Some coaches may actually prefer to kick off to begin overtime, on the thinking that they’d rather know what the other team has done when they get the ball, and know if they need to play for a touchdown or can settle for a field goal. Some coaches may be more aggressive about going for two after a touchdown.

There is still one scenario in which both teams don’t get a possession in overtime: If the team kicking off
to start overtime scores a safety on the receiving team’s initial possession, the team that kicked off is the winner without ever possessing the ball. For instance, if the kickoff returner gets tackled deep in his own territory, and then on the next play the quarterback is sacked in his own end zone, that safety ends the game.

Unlike regular-season overtime, which is 10 minutes long, playoff overtime is essentially starting a new game: Teams will play 15-minute periods until there is a winner. If there’s been no winner after two 15-minute periods, there will be another kickoff to start the third overtime period, although there won’t be a halftime break between periods. Needing to go to a third overtime period has never happened in NFL history.


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Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1257 on: January 12, 2023, 10:33:13 AM »

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It’s Thursday and Lamar has missed 16 practices in a row. I don’t think he’s playing this weekend. What a colossal disaster by the Ravens front office.

Obviously there's the contract negotiations, but a part of me thinks Lamar checked out after the Jags game when it was clear the Ravens probably weren't going to win the AFC North anymore (Bengals were heating up then too). He might be right too, even with Lamar I wouldn't pick Baltimore to win this game
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Re: NFL 2022 Season
« Reply #1258 on: January 12, 2023, 11:00:30 AM »

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Don’t think Lamar is going to take a chance at losing a big payday ..if he tears his knee against the bengals, then there goes his big paycheck
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« Reply #1259 on: January 12, 2023, 11:04:30 AM »

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It’s Thursday and Lamar has missed 16 practices in a row. I don’t think he’s playing this weekend. What a colossal disaster by the Ravens front office.

Obviously there's the contract negotiations, but a part of me thinks Lamar checked out after the Jags game when it was clear the Ravens probably weren't going to win the AFC North anymore (Bengals were heating up then too). He might be right too, even with Lamar I wouldn't pick Baltimore to win this game

Can’t get the best player to play? Tough to win like that. If he was invested in the team’s future, he would be around the team rehabbing and practicing. I also think he’s not sold on this year’s team and is concerned about getting/staying healthy. I think the team might not be sold on him either. They could get a top pick in some type of sign and trade.