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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1320 on: March 17, 2023, 04:22:26 PM »

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My gut feeling is the Pats probably want Jeudy, but the asking price is too high. They are probably waiting a bit and seeing if it drops. Doesn't feel like they are in on Hopkins. And the Draft is still more than a month away in case they are legitimately considering adding a WR with pick #14

If they find a way to add a real #1, then I think our receiving group actually looks awesome.

#1/JuJu/Parker/Bourne/Thornton with Henry/Gesecki the TEs. Pretty good actually, hopefully with a better O-Line too

They have been linked to obj and also attended his workout I believe.

So did a bunch of different teams. Tbh I'm not as high on OBJ anymore. I just feel like whoever gets him will be disappointed, plus him staying healthy isn't a given

And I'm guessing he's still asking for 20M in FA (lol)

Definitely not interested at $20m. Maybe at $5m
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1321 on: March 17, 2023, 04:33:14 PM »

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Pats signed Mike Gesecki.  Good player who was used less than I would have thought.
I like the Gesicki and Robinson additions. Robinson should still have a lot of fuel in the tank, and Gesicki is capable of yardage.
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1322 on: March 17, 2023, 04:36:17 PM »

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I feel the receivers don't mean much without the proper OL.   Speed doesn't matter if the QB has less than 3 seconds to to get rid of the ball. Team only had one good performing lineman last year. Need at least one side to be dependable that way TEs or Rbs can help on the opposite side.
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1323 on: March 17, 2023, 04:37:24 PM »

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I feel the receivers don't mean much without the proper OL.   Speed doesn't matter if the QB has less than 3 seconds to to get ready of the ball. Team only had one good performing lineman last year. Need at least one side to be dependable that way TEs or Rbs can help on the opposite side.
I think all the signings point towards drafting a tackle
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1324 on: March 17, 2023, 06:23:35 PM »

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I feel the receivers don't mean much without the proper OL.   Speed doesn't matter if the QB has less than 3 seconds to to get ready of the ball. Team only had one good performing lineman last year. Need at least one side to be dependable that way TEs or Rbs can help on the opposite side.
I think all the signings point towards drafting a tackle

Not sure what draft capital they’ll need to give up to get Jeudy or Hopkins. I assume Hopkins would be their 1st and 2nd rounders. But I think Hopkins would make such a difference. Pats receiving core would be elite.  If they don’t trade for a top WR then I suppose BB goes fishing for WR in the draft. Maybe O’Brien helps with that selection.

Hope whatever it was that had Bourne in the doghouse is resolved.  Also really hope Thornton can show himself to be a valuable receiver. With Stevenson and Robinson catching balls out of the backfield and the 2 TEs - Pats have weapons for Mac. Need to protect the QB and really would to see them get a #1 WR.   

Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1325 on: March 17, 2023, 06:28:47 PM »

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Jalen Mills released, saving $5m in space. Seem to be shedding a lot of the overpaid guys from when we splashed all that cash
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1326 on: March 17, 2023, 06:49:53 PM »

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I feel the receivers don't mean much without the proper OL.   Speed doesn't matter if the QB has less than 3 seconds to to get ready of the ball. Team only had one good performing lineman last year. Need at least one side to be dependable that way TEs or Rbs can help on the opposite side.
I think all the signings point towards drafting a tackle

Not sure what draft capital they’ll need to give up to get Jeudy or Hopkins. I assume Hopkins would be their 1st and 2nd rounders. But I think Hopkins would make such a difference. Pats receiving core would be elite.  If they don’t trade for a top WR then I suppose BB goes fishing for WR in the draft. Maybe O’Brien helps with that selection.

Hope whatever it was that had Bourne in the doghouse is resolved.  Also really hope Thornton can show himself to be a valuable receiver. With Stevenson and Robinson catching balls out of the backfield and the 2 TEs - Pats have weapons for Mac. Need to protect the QB and really would to see them get a #1 WR.   

I don’t think any team is giving up a 1st and 2nd round pick for a soon to be 31 year old Hopkins who is making $20M/year. Jeudy is likely going to command a 1st round pick since he’s coming off his best year and is only 23 years old.
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1327 on: March 17, 2023, 07:11:33 PM »

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Hopkins and OBJ followed Mac on IG, and Mac followed them back

Worth noting, because there's been 4 instances of that this offseason that people have seen (like Gesecki) and guess what, ALL those guys ended up signing here.

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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1328 on: March 17, 2023, 07:13:48 PM »

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I feel the receivers don't mean much without the proper OL.   Speed doesn't matter if the QB has less than 3 seconds to to get ready of the ball. Team only had one good performing lineman last year. Need at least one side to be dependable that way TEs or Rbs can help on the opposite side.
I think all the signings point towards drafting a tackle

Not sure what draft capital they’ll need to give up to get Jeudy or Hopkins. I assume Hopkins would be their 1st and 2nd rounders. But I think Hopkins would make such a difference. Pats receiving core would be elite.  If they don’t trade for a top WR then I suppose BB goes fishing for WR in the draft. Maybe O’Brien helps with that selection.

Hope whatever it was that had Bourne in the doghouse is resolved.  Also really hope Thornton can show himself to be a valuable receiver. With Stevenson and Robinson catching balls out of the backfield and the 2 TEs - Pats have weapons for Mac. Need to protect the QB and really would to see them get a #1 WR.   

I don’t think any team is giving up a 1st and 2nd round pick for a soon to be 31 year old Hopkins who is making $20M/year. Jeudy is likely going to command a 1st round pick since he’s coming off his best year and is only 23 years old.
You’re right - I was way over on my thoughts about what it would take to get Hopkins.  If a 2nd would do it, I’m a little confused as to why the Pats wouldn’t go there. But - I’ve made it apparent that I’m not much of a judge of value, so I’ll stop there. 

Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1329 on: March 17, 2023, 07:15:27 PM »

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Hopkins and OBJ followed Mac on IG, and Mac followed them back

Worth noting, because there's been 4 instances of that this offseason that people have seen (like Gesecki) and guess what, ALL those guys ended up signing here.

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Hopkins, OBJ, and Juju? With B'oB? This team is definitely going to places this season.


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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1330 on: March 17, 2023, 07:18:11 PM »

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Hopkins and OBJ followed Mac on IG, and Mac followed them back

Worth noting, because there's been 4 instances of that this offseason that people have seen (like Gesecki) and guess what, ALL those guys ended up signing here.

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Hopkins, OBJ, and Juju? With B'oB? This team is definitely going to places this season.

I'd be so ecstatic if that happened. Henry and Gesecki our TEs as well.

Obviously we still need to add another tackle, but the OL also looks better at the moment than it did last year (and no more "false start, #76 Isaiah Wynn" in that group too lol)
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1331 on: March 17, 2023, 07:54:10 PM »

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Getting Hopkins, OBJ, or Jeudy would be fantastic; getting two of them, or all three, would be football heaven. But even just getting one of them would give the Pats a clear #1, JuJu at #2, then Parker, Bourne, and Thornton to round out, plus Henry and Gesicki — that's a great receiving corp. As long as the Pats also improve the OL to give Mac time, the offense should be in way better shape this season.
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1332 on: March 17, 2023, 08:17:30 PM »

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I feel the receivers don't mean much without the proper OL.   Speed doesn't matter if the QB has less than 3 seconds to to get ready of the ball. Team only had one good performing lineman last year. Need at least one side to be dependable that way TEs or Rbs can help on the opposite side.
I think all the signings point towards drafting a tackle

Not sure what draft capital they’ll need to give up to get Jeudy or Hopkins. I assume Hopkins would be their 1st and 2nd rounders. But I think Hopkins would make such a difference. Pats receiving core would be elite.  If they don’t trade for a top WR then I suppose BB goes fishing for WR in the draft. Maybe O’Brien helps with that selection.

Hope whatever it was that had Bourne in the doghouse is resolved.  Also really hope Thornton can show himself to be a valuable receiver. With Stevenson and Robinson catching balls out of the backfield and the 2 TEs - Pats have weapons for Mac. Need to protect the QB and really would to see them get a #1 WR.   

I don’t think any team is giving up a 1st and 2nd round pick for a soon to be 31 year old Hopkins who is making $20M/year. Jeudy is likely going to command a 1st round pick since he’s coming off his best year and is only 23 years old.
You’re right - I was way over on my thoughts about what it would take to get Hopkins.  If a 2nd would do it, I’m a little confused as to why the Pats wouldn’t go there. But - I’ve made it apparent that I’m not much of a judge of value, so I’ll stop there.

I think it has less to do with giving up a 2nd or 3rd round pick and more to do with the money. WR’s generally don’t do well in their 30’s and he’s making $20M annually. Hopkins would also have to be on board with coming to NE and likely reworking his contract. I’d love to get him, though. Have zero interest in OBJ.
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1333 on: March 17, 2023, 08:32:29 PM »

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I feel the receivers don't mean much without the proper OL.   Speed doesn't matter if the QB has less than 3 seconds to to get ready of the ball. Team only had one good performing lineman last year. Need at least one side to be dependable that way TEs or Rbs can help on the opposite side.
I think all the signings point towards drafting a tackle

Not sure what draft capital they’ll need to give up to get Jeudy or Hopkins. I assume Hopkins would be their 1st and 2nd rounders. But I think Hopkins would make such a difference. Pats receiving core would be elite.  If they don’t trade for a top WR then I suppose BB goes fishing for WR in the draft. Maybe O’Brien helps with that selection.

Hope whatever it was that had Bourne in the doghouse is resolved.  Also really hope Thornton can show himself to be a valuable receiver. With Stevenson and Robinson catching balls out of the backfield and the 2 TEs - Pats have weapons for Mac. Need to protect the QB and really would to see them get a #1 WR.   

I don’t think any team is giving up a 1st and 2nd round pick for a soon to be 31 year old Hopkins who is making $20M/year. Jeudy is likely going to command a 1st round pick since he’s coming off his best year and is only 23 years old.
You’re right - I was way over on my thoughts about what it would take to get Hopkins.  If a 2nd would do it, I’m a little confused as to why the Pats wouldn’t go there. But - I’ve made it apparent that I’m not much of a judge of value, so I’ll stop there.

I think it has less to do with giving up a 2nd or 3rd round pick and more to do with the money. WR’s generally don’t do well in their 30’s and he’s making $20M annually. Hopkins would also have to be on board with coming to NE and likely reworking his contract. I’d love to get him, though. Have zero interest in OBJ.

I like Hopkins, but didn't he serve a 6-game suspension for PEDs?  That could be a sign that he realizes that his body is breaking down.


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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #1334 on: March 17, 2023, 08:56:20 PM »

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I feel the receivers don't mean much without the proper OL.   Speed doesn't matter if the QB has less than 3 seconds to to get ready of the ball. Team only had one good performing lineman last year. Need at least one side to be dependable that way TEs or Rbs can help on the opposite side.
I think all the signings point towards drafting a tackle

Not sure what draft capital they’ll need to give up to get Jeudy or Hopkins. I assume Hopkins would be their 1st and 2nd rounders. But I think Hopkins would make such a difference. Pats receiving core would be elite.  If they don’t trade for a top WR then I suppose BB goes fishing for WR in the draft. Maybe O’Brien helps with that selection.

Hope whatever it was that had Bourne in the doghouse is resolved.  Also really hope Thornton can show himself to be a valuable receiver. With Stevenson and Robinson catching balls out of the backfield and the 2 TEs - Pats have weapons for Mac. Need to protect the QB and really would to see them get a #1 WR.   

I don’t think any team is giving up a 1st and 2nd round pick for a soon to be 31 year old Hopkins who is making $20M/year. Jeudy is likely going to command a 1st round pick since he’s coming off his best year and is only 23 years old.
You’re right - I was way over on my thoughts about what it would take to get Hopkins.  If a 2nd would do it, I’m a little confused as to why the Pats wouldn’t go there. But - I’ve made it apparent that I’m not much of a judge of value, so I’ll stop there.

I think it has less to do with giving up a 2nd or 3rd round pick and more to do with the money. WR’s generally don’t do well in their 30’s and he’s making $20M annually. Hopkins would also have to be on board with coming to NE and likely reworking his contract. I’d love to get him, though. Have zero interest in OBJ.

I like Hopkins, but didn't he serve a 6-game suspension for PEDs?  That could be a sign that he realizes that his body is breaking down.

Exactly. I just can’t see Bill and Bob being willing to pay that kind of money to a 31 year old WR.
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