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Re: Grant Williams Throwing Shade?
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2022, 05:15:17 PM »

Offline C3LTSF4N

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As much as the result sucked and I don’t like it, I don’t agree with Grant at all.  I like him and I hope we resign him but his comments are pretty immature.  He’s essentially saying they were more disciplined and experienced but we’re better even though they won.  Makes no sense to me, ‘on paper’ means nothing.  Discipline and experience is what makes a better team, employee, person, however you want to slice it.  Sure we have the potential to be better but I think he’s speaking for something that isn’t here yet.  Keep working and get to the goal because we were not better as seen when the Warriors beat us 3 games in a row and closed it out in Boston.

Oh come now.  What top athlete doesn’t think they/their team is the best when they get close, and that losses are due to some other reason?  Crediting the Warriors focus and discipline is actually pretty mature rather than blaming refs or bad luck/injuries.  And it’s probably correct.  If you’re #2, the difference between that and #1 generally isn’t due to physical ability/skill at this level.

How many MVPs does Paul Pierce think he should have won?  5?  You need a lot of self-confidence to make it in the NBA, and Grant’s super-sized portion of it is only going to help him.

Seriously, you need confidence to stay in the NBA. I mean like Grant said, the Warriors were more experienced and more focused than the Celtics isn't that a mature thing to say?

I get what you guys are saying and yeah of course you need confidence in the NBA, and a lot of it, but there’s a difference between confidence and reality.  The way he says it all, he sounds like it was so obvious the Celtics were better.  They weren’t, they lost, and it wasn’t close.  The lack of maturity part imo is not accepting the Warriors were better.  I’d rather him realize that and work to improve than get complacent.  It was completely obvious they were better and sounds weird to definitively declare we were the better team.

It’s the same story as far as today’s new media goes, go on a podcast and make controversial comments to make a name.  I get it, it doesn’t bother me that much but he’s just not right.

Re: Grant Williams Throwing Shade?
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2022, 05:55:08 PM »

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I think you would have to be squinting really hard to read that statement and infer that Grant was throwing shade at anyone
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Re: Grant Williams Throwing Shade?
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2022, 06:22:05 PM »

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I think you would have to be squinting really hard to read that statement and infer that Grant was throwing shade at anyone

We have some professional pot stirrers around here.

Re: Grant Williams Throwing Shade?
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2022, 08:11:45 PM »

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For me there were two key turning points in the finals.

The first was game 2. Draymond Green single handed my beat is in that game. He understood the importance of that game and understood that if the Warriors lost it they were going to lose the finals. So what does Draymond do? He delivers a Draymond Green masterpiece.

By mucking it up Dennis Rodman style with just about everyone in our team (but mostly JB, Smart, Horford and Grant Williams - the quote unguarded tough guys on the team), he completely distracted our entire team. He owned a lot of real estate in a lot guys heads in Game 2. Very well done.

We may not like Green’s BS, but GS won the game. That is experience, grit, smarts and maturity of understanding what was needed - and the discipline to do it.

Game four:
Again, if GS loses that game, which they nearly did, the series is over. They broke our confidence in that game and we never recovered.

That is experience, grit, smarts and the discipline to do it on GS’ part.

Grant Williams is a super bright kid and he is 500% on point with his comments.

We were the better team but we were soft mentally due to youth in large part and we folded, reverting to old ways when the going to the toughest.

Learn and grow.

One moment that stuck out to me was when Draymond followed Tatum all the way to the bench along the baseline after play was stopped. The appropriate thing for someone to do would have been to take the ball and shove it in Draymond Green’s face and push him away from Tatum. Start a scrum if necessary, take a tech, make the point. It probably should have been Grant Williams who should have done it.

I credit GS grittiness and our mental softness for the loss of these finals

It’s OK, we’re young and learning - we’ll get there.   

Draymond should have received a tech for taunting on that play but we didn’t stick up for ourselves, or Tatum.

Tatum should also have turned around and gotten very into with Draymond - even a chest shove would have been appropriate. But Tatum was soft - let Draymond bully him.

Just great pshychllogical basketball by the Warriors - outstanding.

Re: Grant Williams Throwing Shade?
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2022, 08:24:42 PM »

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Yes, yes, Celtics suck important thing is to move from this.

Re: Grant Williams Throwing Shade?
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2022, 10:39:24 PM »

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I disagree. I don’t think the Celtics suck. I think they are an incredibly outstanding young team with one heck of a coach in Ime and a tremendous front office lead by Brad Stevens.

They are also, as all young teams are, pshychologically immature. They’re close but not quite there yet mentally. The NBA is a man’s game and unless you have an iron will mentally teams like GA and players like Draymond will play you like a fiddle.

Ime said the same - only experience, and in large part thisnfinals experience, can get these young Celtics where they need to go.

This is a great young team that needs to take it to another level now that Stevens and ownership have largely done their part by adding Brogdon and Gallo. They will likely add more firepower throughout the season at some point.

However, in order to win it Tatum and Brown - as well as the rest of the supporting cast need to go next level on the alpha scale. If they can take that leap this season, we probably throw up a banner - - with more likley to come after it.