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Grant Williams Throwing Shade?
« on: July 22, 2022, 12:49:18 AM »

Offline Ed Monix

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If you think Grant Williams is insinuating that a specific individual(s) cost the Celtics the championship against Golden State, who do you believe he’s talking about?

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2022, 01:51:24 AM »

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Link or context to whatever you are referring to would go a long way...

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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2022, 03:19:34 AM »

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Hint: I’ve been saying the same thing as Grant in so many words. Anybody who watches every aspect of basketball knows how and why we reverted from being the unstoppable Celtics of 2022 back to once again being the Loser Iso Hero-Ball Celtics of 2021. Only people who only pay attention to shooting/stats do not see it, or folks in denial about how it all went down…the only question is who was the ringleader and who was the sidekick?

I would bet heavily that Grant and JT see eye-to-eye on this with Ime, Brad, Horford and D-White. And let’s not forget this is JT’s team…

BTW, where the heck is Grant’s extension? Let’s get this done, Brad. This is our prototypical lunchpail Celtic with quite the head on his shoulders. Love this guy.
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What did Grant say?

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What did Grant say?

The Celtics were the better team, the Warriors were the more disciplined team.


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What did Grant say?

The Celtics were the better team, the Warriors were the more disciplined team.
How did we get from that to Grant has a single person in mind? I mean, Grant's not wrong. It was the whole team, though.

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What did Grant say?

The Celtics were the better team, the Warriors were the more disciplined team.
How did we get from that to Grant has a single person in mind? I mean, Grant's not wrong. It was the whole team, though.

Yeah, Grant has in the past weeks included himself as someone who was lacking discipline.

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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2022, 08:05:13 AM »

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What did Grant say?

The Celtics were the better team, the Warriors were the more disciplined team.
How did we get from that to Grant has a single person in mind? I mean, Grant's not wrong. It was the whole team, though.

Yeah, I think people are reading way too much into this.  The Warriors executed their schemes better than we executed our schemes.  If you want to call that being more disciplined, OK.  I think that is what Grant meant though.  The Warriors have had the same coach and the same core players for what, 8 seasons, including several long playoff runs.  The Celtics had a new coach and really just a season or two with the core players in their current roles.  The Warriors executed better because they have had 8 years to work on it.  And because they handled the pressure better.  And because they have some really good players who made big plays.

The Celtics' execution did fray around the edges some in the finals while the Warriors' execution remained tight.  It was a really big moment for the Celtics' young players.  The Warriors were better prepared to handle it for a number of reasons.

The Celtics added two really good players to the mix this off season.  We can build on our execution and discipline with the same coach and the same core players.  We are picking up where we left off this season, not more or less starting over.  Our young stars will have matured and we added veteran depth.  If the coach and the players understand what they need to focus on (execution), I am sure things will improve and they will be far better prepared for the pressure and intensity of the finals this season. 


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What did Grant say?

The Celtics were the better team, the Warriors were the more disciplined team.
How did we get from that to Grant has a single person in mind? I mean, Grant's not wrong. It was the whole team, though.

Yeah, I think people are reading way too much into this.  The Warriors executed their schemes better than we executed our schemes.  If you want to call that being more disciplined, OK.  I think that is what Grant meant though.  The Warriors have had the same coach and the same core players for what, 8 seasons, including several long playoff runs.  The Celtics had a new coach and really just a season or two with the core players in their current roles.  The Warriors executed better because they have had 8 years to work on it.  And because they handled the pressure better.  And because they have some really good players who made big plays.

The Celtics' execution did fray around the edges some in the finals while the Warriors' execution remained tight.  It was a really big moment for the Celtics' young players.  The Warriors were better prepared to handle it for a number of reasons.

The Celtics added two really good players to the mix this off season.  We can build on our execution and discipline with the same coach and the same core players.  We are picking up where we left off this season, not more or less starting over.  Our young stars will have matured and we added veteran depth.  If the coach and the players understand what they need to focus on (execution), I am sure things will improve and they will be far better prepared for the pressure and intensity of the finals this season. 

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If you think Grant Williams is insinuating that a specific individual(s) cost the Celtics the championship against Golden State, who do you believe he’s talking about?



I don't believe that he is insinuating anything about any specific individual. I'm not sure how one can come to that conclusion.

I think Grant is right. The Celtics looked better on paper going into the Finals. They got exposed as a younger, more inexperienced team when the bright lights came on. Not one person is to blame for this. Not Ime, JT, JB, etc. In retrospect, that GS squad was a lot better on paper. I think they had some hiccups in the regular season and against Memphis where people thought they were exposed. The 08 Celtics were similar in that vein.

GS was a really good team in the last Finals. No one on the Celtics is specifically to blame for that Finals loss.
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If you think Grant Williams is insinuating that a specific individual(s) cost the Celtics the championship against Golden State, who do you believe he’s talking about?



I don't believe that he is insinuating anything about an specific individual. I'm not sure how one can come to that conclusion.


Because there are some fans who need to believe that this team doesn't like playing together other or that there's some level of resentment growing.

Reading Grant's interview, he made no effort to direct blame at anyone. Everything was "we, us, the team" etc. 
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As much as the result sucked and I don’t like it, I don’t agree with Grant at all.  I like him and I hope we resign him but his comments are pretty immature.  He’s essentially saying they were more disciplined and experienced but we’re better even though they won.  Makes no sense to me, ‘on paper’ means nothing.  Discipline and experience is what makes a better team, employee, person, however you want to slice it.  Sure we have the potential to be better but I think he’s speaking for something that isn’t here yet.  Keep working and get to the goal because we were not better as seen when the Warriors beat us 3 games in a row and closed it out in Boston.   

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If you think Grant Williams is insinuating that a specific individual(s) cost the Celtics the championship against Golden State, who do you believe he’s talking about?



I don't believe that he is insinuating anything about any specific individual. I'm not sure how one can come to that conclusion.

I think Grant is right. The Celtics looked better on paper going into the Finals. They got exposed as a younger, more inexperienced team when the bright lights came on. Not one person is to blame for this. Not Ime, JT, JB, etc. In retrospect, that GS squad was a lot better on paper. I think they had some hiccups in the regular season and against Memphis where people thought they were exposed. The 08 Celtics were similar in that vein.

GS was a really good team in the last Finals. No one on the Celtics is specifically to blame for that Finals loss.

The issue was injuries.  Their big 3 (Curry, Thompson, Green) only played together for 3 games and 11 minutes in the regular season.  And they still managed to win 53 games.  In the playoffs, they had their big 3 together for 22 games and 455 minutes, so were a very different team.

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As much as the result sucked and I don’t like it, I don’t agree with Grant at all.  I like him and I hope we resign him but his comments are pretty immature.  He’s essentially saying they were more disciplined and experienced but we’re better even though they won.  Makes no sense to me, ‘on paper’ means nothing.  Discipline and experience is what makes a better team, employee, person, however you want to slice it.  Sure we have the potential to be better but I think he’s speaking for something that isn’t here yet.  Keep working and get to the goal because we were not better as seen when the Warriors beat us 3 games in a row and closed it out in Boston.

Oh come now.  What top athlete doesn’t think they/their team is the best when they get close, and that losses are due to some other reason?  Crediting the Warriors focus and discipline is actually pretty mature rather than blaming refs or bad luck/injuries.  And it’s probably correct.  If you’re #2, the difference between that and #1 generally isn’t due to physical ability/skill at this level.

How many MVPs does Paul Pierce think he should have won?  5?  You need a lot of self-confidence to make it in the NBA, and Grant’s super-sized portion of it is only going to help him.

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As much as the result sucked and I don’t like it, I don’t agree with Grant at all.  I like him and I hope we resign him but his comments are pretty immature.  He’s essentially saying they were more disciplined and experienced but we’re better even though they won.  Makes no sense to me, ‘on paper’ means nothing.  Discipline and experience is what makes a better team, employee, person, however you want to slice it.  Sure we have the potential to be better but I think he’s speaking for something that isn’t here yet.  Keep working and get to the goal because we were not better as seen when the Warriors beat us 3 games in a row and closed it out in Boston.

Oh come now.  What top athlete doesn’t think they/their team is the best when they get close, and that losses are due to some other reason?  Crediting the Warriors focus and discipline is actually pretty mature rather than blaming refs or bad luck/injuries.  And it’s probably correct.  If you’re #2, the difference between that and #1 generally isn’t due to physical ability/skill at this level.

How many MVPs does Paul Pierce think he should have won?  5?  You need a lot of self-confidence to make it in the NBA, and Grant’s super-sized portion of it is only going to help him.

Seriously, you need confidence to stay in the NBA. I mean like Grant said, the Warriors were more experienced and more focused than the Celtics isn't that a mature thing to say?