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Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #270 on: June 21, 2025, 09:29:26 AM »

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The Athletic ranked Duke forward Cooper Flagg as the second-best NBA prospect of the past decade, trailing only 7-foot-4 French superstar Victor Wembanyama.

The criteria for the list was based on how draft expert Sam Vecenie graded the players when they entered the draft. How the players ended up faring in the NBA was not part of the criteria. Rutgers guard Dylan Harper was the only college player besides Flagg to make the list.

Flagg beat out several NBA stars including Ja Morant, Luka Doncic, and Jayson Tatum.

Vecenie lauded Flagg for his competitiveness and versatile skill-set, calling the Maine native a ?highly-skilled mismatch nightmare.

He plays hard all the time and is relentless in his aggression on both ends, Vecenie wrote. He gives energy to his teammates and is all sorts of tough and fearless. He?s the easiest person to buy into becoming a winning basketball player because he amplifies those around him.

Outside of Wembanyama, Flagg has the best combination of a ridiculously high floor and also a ridiculously high ceiling if everything goes right in his development. He has a chance to become the next apex wing in the NBA.



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C Flagg
Risacher
Wemby
Banchero
Cade
Ant
Zion
Ayton
Fultz
Ben Simmons
Towns
Wiggins
A Bennett
AD = 2012

Okay, so post-AD. Not including him.

Cooper Flagg has a strong case. Zion stands out to me as someone who has an argument against Cooper Flagg.

Ben Simmons has a bit of a case too although I would give Flagg the edge due to jump-shooting. Interesting though. I think B Simmons would be #4 prospect of the last 13 years behind Wemby, Flagg, Zion. In terms of what they were entering the NBA.


   I can?t think of a good offensive comparison with Flagg . It?s hard to tell with all the crowding and fouling in the college game that he will not experience in the nba . With shoulders everywhere he should find it easier on offense. His d seems like a poor man?s Duncan where he does great side to side on fours and adds on some shot blocking / rim protection on a much lower bevel than Tim.

Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #271 on: June 27, 2025, 03:54:50 PM »

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Tim MacMahon: Jason Kidd has said multiple times that he?ll utilize Cooper Flagg as a point guard early and plans to push him by putting him in situations that might be uncomfortable.  via Twitter espn_macmahon
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Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #272 on: June 27, 2025, 05:03:17 PM »

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Tim MacMahon: Jason Kidd has said multiple times that he?ll utilize Cooper Flagg as a point guard early and plans to push him by putting him in situations that might be uncomfortable.  via Twitter espn_macmahon
Trying to get him to develop his offensive creation skills to maximize his potential.  Good time to do it with Kyrie out. 

Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #273 on: November 30, 2025, 12:11:19 PM »

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Cooper Flagg packed a lot of history into the Dallas Mavericks' back-to-back games against the NBA's two Los Angeles squads.

On Friday night, Flagg dished out 11 assists, the most ever by an 18-year-old, in a loss to the Lakers.

Twenty-four hours later, Flagg became the youngest player to score 35 points in a game, a feat that was much more satisfying because it occurred as he led an injury-depleted Dallas team to a 114-110 win over the Clippers at the Intuit Dome.

"He's only 18 years old, but he seems like he's been in this league before," Mavs coach Jason Kidd said. "He did it all tonight. He had the ball. You can call it point guard or whatever, but he ran the offense for us. He drove the ball. The ball touched the paint. He got to the rim, got to the free throw line, stepped up and made free throws for us late. Just his composure on both ends [was impressive]. He competes at a very high level. You saw that tonight, but you saw that last night, too."

LeBron James is the only other 18-year-old to score 35 points in an NBA game, having done so twice as a rookie for the Cleveland Cavaliers in December 2023. James' first 35-point game occurred when he was 18 years, 348 days old, five days older than Flagg on Saturday night.-ESPN

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Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #274 on: Today at 11:21:06 AM »

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SALT LAKE CITY -- Cooper Flagg scored the most points by an 18-year-old in NBA history, but he couldn't enjoy the accomplishment because it came in defeat.

Flagg put up 42 points -- topping the previous mark of 37 set by LeBron James on Dec. 13, 2003 -- in a 140-133 loss to the Utah Jazz on Monday night.

"Obviously, we didn't win. So, it's tough for me to want to be happy or any of that," said Flagg, who had a bag of ice on an ankle after rolling it at the end of regulation. "But obviously, it's a success."
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #275 on: Today at 11:30:18 AM »

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The kid is pretty amazing.  It makes me laugh at all of the social media posts three weeks into his career saying he was "exposed".


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Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #276 on: Today at 11:42:16 AM »

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The kid is pretty amazing.  It makes me laugh at all of the social media posts three weeks into his career saying he was "exposed".

I stand by my earlier statement that the Celtics should have traded Tatum for Flagg & Brown for Harper.

Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #277 on: Today at 12:46:31 PM »

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The kid is pretty amazing.  It makes me laugh at all of the social media posts three weeks into his career saying he was "exposed".

I stand by my earlier statement that the Celtics should have traded Tatum for Flagg & Brown for Harper.

I don't think Dallas would have done that deal, and I don't think Boston would have, either.  Too much risk of being wrong for both sides.


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Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #278 on: Today at 01:07:28 PM »

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The kid is pretty amazing.  It makes me laugh at all of the social media posts three weeks into his career saying he was "exposed".

I stand by my earlier statement that the Celtics should have traded Tatum for Flagg & Brown for Harper.
where's that posted?  I have my doubts this was actually posted since Tatum was injured on May 12 and the Draft Lottery was on May 12. 

In what world would you have expected Boston to have made a trade offer to Dallas when they're playing the Knicks the round before the conference final when Dallas didn't get the first pick until a couple of hours before Tatum's injury?  If you're saying you proposed that deal afterwards, why would you think Dallas would accept that deal without knowing how Tatum would recover?

I wouldn't do that deal regardless since Tatum and Brown have shown they can win a title together whereas Flagg and Harper haven't done anything yet.  Tatum and Brown have not had a season out of the playoffs either but you can be sure Dallas is barely going to make it this year if they do (thanks to the play-in which didn't exist when Brown and Tatum came into the league) and that's with AD, Klay Thompson and Kyrie to help carry the load for them.  Brown and Tatum's best teammate until the title year was IT who is not regarded nearly as highly as those other 3 on the Dallas roster.

Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #279 on: Today at 01:15:56 PM »

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The kid is pretty amazing.  It makes me laugh at all of the social media posts three weeks into his career saying he was "exposed".

I stand by my earlier statement that the Celtics should have traded Tatum for Flagg & Brown for Harper.
where's that posted?  I have my doubts this was actually posted since Tatum was injured on May 12 and the Draft Lottery was on May 12.

Given the current roster constraints, I actually wished that Stevens would make an offer for Flagg.

Even if the offer ends up being Tatum & White, a full rebuild seems the way to go. You may get the 2nd pick & our 2028 pick back from the Spurs for Brown.

It might actually be beneficial for Mazzulla to be able to grow as a young HC without the pressure of needing to win 60 + games every season.

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« Reply #280 on: Today at 01:20:30 PM »

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The kid is pretty amazing.  It makes me laugh at all of the social media posts three weeks into his career saying he was "exposed".

I stand by my earlier statement that the Celtics should have traded Tatum for Flagg & Brown for Harper.

I don't think Dallas would have done that deal, and I don't think Boston would have, either.  Too much risk of being wrong for both sides.

Obviously the Celtics would not because they did not make an offer or even show interest because ownership is not interested in a rebuild.

But for Dallas I cannot see how you turn down that offer. Nico Harrison would still have his job if he does that trade, essentially turning Doncic into Anthony Davis & Jayson Tatum.

Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #281 on: Today at 01:33:27 PM »

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The kid is pretty amazing.  It makes me laugh at all of the social media posts three weeks into his career saying he was "exposed".

I stand by my earlier statement that the Celtics should have traded Tatum for Flagg & Brown for Harper.

I don't think Dallas would have done that deal, and I don't think Boston would have, either.  Too much risk of being wrong for both sides.

Obviously the Celtics would not because they did not make an offer or even show interest because ownership is not interested in a rebuild.

But for Dallas I cannot see how you turn down that offer. Nico Harrison would still have his job if he does that trade, essentially turning Doncic into Anthony Davis & Jayson Tatum.

Not to mention the PR fallout from trading the best Celtic player since Bird while still in his prime.


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Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #282 on: Today at 01:34:41 PM »

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Just need to wait out five years.  Brown's contract will be gone and we can sign Flagg to pair with JT.
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Re: Cooper Flagg
« Reply #283 on: Today at 01:46:15 PM »

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The kid is pretty amazing.  It makes me laugh at all of the social media posts three weeks into his career saying he was "exposed".

I stand by my earlier statement that the Celtics should have traded Tatum for Flagg & Brown for Harper.

I don't think Dallas would have done that deal, and I don't think Boston would have, either.  Too much risk of being wrong for both sides.

Obviously the Celtics would not because they did not make an offer or even show interest because ownership is not interested in a rebuild.

But for Dallas I cannot see how you turn down that offer. Nico Harrison would still have his job if he does that trade, essentially turning Doncic into Anthony Davis & Jayson Tatum.

Not to mention the PR fallout from trading the best Celtic player since Bird while still in his prime.

That is where a strong GM is utilized. For the most part fans & the media are completely irrational and overly sentimental.

Wyc was booed for not trading a future pick that became Tatum. The Warriors fans booed their ownership after trading Monta Ellis for Andrew Bogut.

In this situation, the Celtics would be trading Tatum due to the new cap rules and his trade is part of a complete rebuild.


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The kid is pretty amazing.  It makes me laugh at all of the social media posts three weeks into his career saying he was "exposed".

I stand by my earlier statement that the Celtics should have traded Tatum for Flagg & Brown for Harper.
where's that posted?  I have my doubts this was actually posted since Tatum was injured on May 12 and the Draft Lottery was on May 12.

Given the current roster constraints, I actually wished that Stevens would make an offer for Flagg.

Even if the offer ends up being Tatum & White, a full rebuild seems the way to go. You may get the 2nd pick & our 2028 pick back from the Spurs for Brown.

It might actually be beneficial for Mazzulla to be able to grow as a young HC without the pressure of needing to win 60 + games every season.
yeah, that June post isn't what you said that you had said.  you're shipping out Tatum, Brown, White for the unproven Flagg, Harper and eliminating the pick swap with SA which you'd have to do because we'd suck and SA would be salivating over how much they jump their pick in the draft.  What a crappy return for our 3 best players.