Is Grant a goner? (Yes: Traded to DAL for second rounders)

[gouki88]

The C's young guys aren't good enough to play. It is simple as that.

You could argue the same thing about Vincent, Robinson, and Struss in Miami at the end of the regular season. You could even argue that about Love and Zeller too.

It's amazing how players can develop and change the perception of their abilities with a simple 20 game stretch.

no you couldn't.  Vincent and Strus started 34 and 33 games this year. Strus started every playoff game the year prior for the Heat.  Vincent started 8 of 18 playoff games the prior year.  Love started 17 of the 21 regular season games he played and then 18 of the 20 playoff games.  Zeller played 8 mpg in the playoffs which is 6 less than he played in the regular season.  Robinson, who isn't young, obviously came in and out of the lineup, but that is how he has been used the last 2 years.  Matchups, injuries, and how well he plays have been dictating his playing time for the last couple of years.  Had Herro and Oladipo been healthy,  I suspect Vincent would have played less, but the Heat didn't really change what worked for them and has been working for them. 

Hauser is not good enough to play in the post season.  He isn't consistent enough as a shooter and does nothing else well.  I do think Grant could have played a bit more, but looking at the minutes in the Heat series, I'm not entirely sure where those minutes should come from.

What are you on about? Hauser is the definition of a consistent shooter.

[Neurotic Guy]

The C's young guys aren't good enough to play. It is simple as that.

You could argue the same thing about Vincent, Robinson, and Struss in Miami at the end of the regular season. You could even argue that about Love and Zeller too.

It's amazing how players can develop and change the perception of their abilities with a simple 20 game stretch.

no you couldn't.  Vincent and Strus started 34 and 33 games this year. Strus started every playoff game the year prior for the Heat.  Vincent started 8 of 18 playoff games the prior year.  Love started 17 of the 21 regular season games he played and then 18 of the 20 playoff games.  Zeller played 8 mpg in the playoffs which is 6 less than he played in the regular season.  Robinson, who isn't young, obviously came in and out of the lineup, but that is how he has been used the last 2 years.  Matchups, injuries, and how well he plays have been dictating his playing time for the last couple of years.  Had Herro and Oladipo been healthy,  I suspect Vincent would have played less, but the Heat didn't really change what worked for them and has been working for them. 

Hauser is not good enough to play in the post season.  He isn't consistent enough as a shooter and does nothing else well.  I do think Grant could have played a bit more, but looking at the minutes in the Heat series, I'm not entirely sure where those minutes should come from.

What are you on about? Hauser is the definition of a consistent shooter.

Hauser impressed last year.  After (how many?) years of watching Carsen Edwards, Aaron Nesmith and other "shooters" display inability to shoot, we finally saw a guy who showed he actually can shoot.  Great, quick release and good size.  We all know the defensive deficiency but Hauser always has his head in the game - he does work on defense and works to get boards.  I'm hoping he'll have a more frequent impact this season.   42% career from 3 on 3.6 attempts.

[theswitch]

The C's young guys aren't good enough to play. It is simple as that.

You could argue the same thing about Vincent, Robinson, and Struss in Miami at the end of the regular season. You could even argue that about Love and Zeller too.

It's amazing how players can develop and change the perception of their abilities with a simple 20 game stretch.

no you couldn't.  Vincent and Strus started 34 and 33 games this year. Strus started every playoff game the year prior for the Heat.  Vincent started 8 of 18 playoff games the prior year.  Love started 17 of the 21 regular season games he played and then 18 of the 20 playoff games.  Zeller played 8 mpg in the playoffs which is 6 less than he played in the regular season.  Robinson, who isn't young, obviously came in and out of the lineup, but that is how he has been used the last 2 years.  Matchups, injuries, and how well he plays have been dictating his playing time for the last couple of years.  Had Herro and Oladipo been healthy,  I suspect Vincent would have played less, but the Heat didn't really change what worked for them and has been working for them. 

Hauser is not good enough to play in the post season.  He isn't consistent enough as a shooter and does nothing else well.  I do think Grant could have played a bit more, but looking at the minutes in the Heat series, I'm not entirely sure where those minutes should come from.

What are you on about? Hauser is the definition of a consistent shooter.

Hauser impressed last year.  After (how many?) years of watching Carsen Edwards, Aaron Nesmith and other "shooters" display inability to shoot, we finally saw a guy who showed he actually can shoot.  Great, quick release and good size.  We all know the defensive deficiency but Hauser always has his head in the game - he does work on defense and works to get boards.  I'm hoping he'll have a more frequent impact this season.   42% career from 3 on 3.6 attempts.

Others have said it elsewhere but I'll say it again here -- I don't get the Hauser is bad at defense narrative. My eye check says he has the size and agility to be fine. The basic stats I look at (right or wrong, but defensive win shares and defensive box +/-, RAPTOR) all say that he was above average last year.

He's not Tony Allen but he's not a huge drag.

[Neurotic Guy]

The C's young guys aren't good enough to play. It is simple as that.

You could argue the same thing about Vincent, Robinson, and Struss in Miami at the end of the regular season. You could even argue that about Love and Zeller too.

It's amazing how players can develop and change the perception of their abilities with a simple 20 game stretch.

no you couldn't.  Vincent and Strus started 34 and 33 games this year. Strus started every playoff game the year prior for the Heat.  Vincent started 8 of 18 playoff games the prior year.  Love started 17 of the 21 regular season games he played and then 18 of the 20 playoff games.  Zeller played 8 mpg in the playoffs which is 6 less than he played in the regular season.  Robinson, who isn't young, obviously came in and out of the lineup, but that is how he has been used the last 2 years.  Matchups, injuries, and how well he plays have been dictating his playing time for the last couple of years.  Had Herro and Oladipo been healthy,  I suspect Vincent would have played less, but the Heat didn't really change what worked for them and has been working for them. 

Hauser is not good enough to play in the post season.  He isn't consistent enough as a shooter and does nothing else well.  I do think Grant could have played a bit more, but looking at the minutes in the Heat series, I'm not entirely sure where those minutes should come from.

What are you on about? Hauser is the definition of a consistent shooter.

Hauser impressed last year.  After (how many?) years of watching Carsen Edwards, Aaron Nesmith and other "shooters" display inability to shoot, we finally saw a guy who showed he actually can shoot.  Great, quick release and good size.  We all know the defensive deficiency but Hauser always has his head in the game - he does work on defense and works to get boards.  I'm hoping he'll have a more frequent impact this season.   42% career from 3 on 3.6 attempts.

Others have said it elsewhere but I'll say it again here -- I don't get the Hauser is bad at defense narrative. My eye check says he has the size and agility to be fine. The basic stats I look at (right or wrong, but defensive win shares and defensive box +/-, RAPTOR) all say that he was above average last year.

He's not Tony Allen but he's not a huge drag.

I'm not an intelligent stats watcher, but I admit he sometimes looks better than he's given credit for. He's also targeted a lot and absolutely has risen to the challenge at times.  Looks a beat slow at times.  But effort is there and he'll be smarter with experience.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

The C's young guys aren't good enough to play. It is simple as that.

You could argue the same thing about Vincent, Robinson, and Struss in Miami at the end of the regular season. You could even argue that about Love and Zeller too.

It's amazing how players can develop and change the perception of their abilities with a simple 20 game stretch.

no you couldn't.  Vincent and Strus started 34 and 33 games this year. Strus started every playoff game the year prior for the Heat.  Vincent started 8 of 18 playoff games the prior year.  Love started 17 of the 21 regular season games he played and then 18 of the 20 playoff games.  Zeller played 8 mpg in the playoffs which is 6 less than he played in the regular season.  Robinson, who isn't young, obviously came in and out of the lineup, but that is how he has been used the last 2 years.  Matchups, injuries, and how well he plays have been dictating his playing time for the last couple of years.  Had Herro and Oladipo been healthy,  I suspect Vincent would have played less, but the Heat didn't really change what worked for them and has been working for them. 

Hauser is not good enough to play in the post season.  He isn't consistent enough as a shooter and does nothing else well.  I do think Grant could have played a bit more, but looking at the minutes in the Heat series, I'm not entirely sure where those minutes should come from.

Yes you could argue what I said. Struss and Vincent played for a .500 team that almost didn't make the playoffs. Do you think they guys get the contracts they got without that 20-30 game stretch? Love was cut from the Cavs. Frankly, I thought he and Zeller were unplayable in the playoffs against many matchups, but they played anyway.

My point isn't that they don't deserve their contracts. My point is that a 20 game stretch early in the season could very easily change public opinion.

[Surferdad]

The C's young guys aren't good enough to play. It is simple as that.

You could argue the same thing about Vincent, Robinson, and Struss in Miami at the end of the regular season. You could even argue that about Love and Zeller too.

It's amazing how players can develop and change the perception of their abilities with a simple 20 game stretch.

no you couldn't.  Vincent and Strus started 34 and 33 games this year. Strus started every playoff game the year prior for the Heat.  Vincent started 8 of 18 playoff games the prior year.  Love started 17 of the 21 regular season games he played and then 18 of the 20 playoff games.  Zeller played 8 mpg in the playoffs which is 6 less than he played in the regular season.  Robinson, who isn't young, obviously came in and out of the lineup, but that is how he has been used the last 2 years.  Matchups, injuries, and how well he plays have been dictating his playing time for the last couple of years.  Had Herro and Oladipo been healthy,  I suspect Vincent would have played less, but the Heat didn't really change what worked for them and has been working for them. 

Hauser is not good enough to play in the post season.  He isn't consistent enough as a shooter and does nothing else well.  I do think Grant could have played a bit more, but looking at the minutes in the Heat series, I'm not entirely sure where those minutes should come from.

What are you on about? Hauser is the definition of a consistent shooter.

Hauser impressed last year.  After (how many?) years of watching Carsen Edwards, Aaron Nesmith and other "shooters" display inability to shoot, we finally saw a guy who showed he actually can shoot.  Great, quick release and good size.  We all know the defensive deficiency but Hauser always has his head in the game - he does work on defense and works to get boards.  I'm hoping he'll have a more frequent impact this season.   42% career from 3 on 3.6 attempts.

Others have said it elsewhere but I'll say it again here -- I don't get the Hauser is bad at defense narrative. My eye check says he has the size and agility to be fine. The basic stats I look at (right or wrong, but defensive win shares and defensive box +/-, RAPTOR) all say that he was above average last year.

He's not Tony Allen but he's not a huge drag.

I'm not an intelligent stats watcher, but I admit he sometimes looks better than he's given credit for. He's also targeted a lot and absolutely has risen to the challenge at times.  Looks a beat slow at times.  But effort is there and he'll be smarter with experience.

On defense, Hauser knows he must stay in front of his man. Good. However, he's not athletic/agile enough to be an elite defender. Just not gonna happen.
On offense, we saw his 3-pt% come down as the season wore on, likely because as the league learned his game, the scouting report became very simple. He's a one-trick pony.

[Vermont Green]

I don't get the debate over Hauser.  He is vastly outplaying his $2M contract.  He is a useful while incomplete player.  He should be better this season than last.  I think he will see regular minutes.  But I don't expect anything spectacular from him but he has proven that he is a legit NBA bench player.

[cman88]

I honestly don't see how Hauser is any worse than Max Struss who just got a huge contract from Cleveland. Or even Duncan Robinson.

Shot 42% from 3 during the season was decent at defense.  Sure he can't create shots. But run him off screens to get 3's or put him out there with ball handlers to sit in the corner.

Mazzulla should've played him more in the playoffs when we were struggling from 3.

[No Nickname]

I honestly don't see how Hauser is any worse than Max Struss who just got a huge contract from Cleveland. Or even Duncan Robinson.

Shot 42% from 3 during the season was decent at defense.  Sure he can't create shots. But run him off screens to get 3's or put him out there with ball handlers to sit in the corner.

Mazzulla should've played him more in the playoffs when we were struggling from 3.

While I admire what Hauser can do, I do see his limitations offensively.

Struss can actually pump fake from three, put the ball on the floor, and drive hard to the basket.  He's shown a propensity for drawing fouls at the rim, or even dunking in traffic.  Sam isn't that kind of player.

Robinson may not create his own offense with the dribble but he's an old-man's-game savant.  He's deadly from three, but if his man closes out quickly he can also pump fake, and side-step the closer and put up the jumper after taking the dribble.

Or, if the closer can stay relatively close to him by not leaping past him on the initial block attempt, Robinson will pump-fake-dribble and then pump-fake again.  This time the recovering defender (who's probably coming at him sideways now) more than likely will elevate for the block.  Here's where Robinson will pass-and-cut for a backdoor layup (if his teammate will make the pass).

I'd say 18-20% of Robinson's shot attempts come from backdoor layups.  He's like a mini-version of the old Princeton offense.  You either shoot a three, or layup.  No in between.

[tonydelk]

I honestly don't see how Hauser is any worse than Max Struss who just got a huge contract from Cleveland. Or even Duncan Robinson.

Shot 42% from 3 during the season was decent at defense.  Sure he can't create shots. But run him off screens to get 3's or put him out there with ball handlers to sit in the corner.

Mazzulla should've played him more in the playoffs when we were struggling from 3.

While I admire what Hauser can do, I do see his limitations offensively.

Struss can actually pump fake from three, put the ball on the floor, and drive hard to the basket.  He's shown a propensity for drawing fouls at the rim, or even dunking in traffic.  Sam isn't that kind of player.

Robinson may not create his own offense with the dribble but he's an old-man's-game savant.  He's deadly from three, but if his man closes out quickly he can also pump fake, and side-step the closer and put up the jumper after taking the dribble.

Or, if the closer can stay relatively close to him by not leaping past him on the initial block attempt, Robinson will pump-fake-dribble and then pump-fake again.  This time the recovering defender (who's probably coming at him sideways now) more than likely will elevate for the block.  Here's where Robinson will pass-and-cut for a backdoor layup (if his teammate will make the pass).

I'd say 18-20% of Robinson's shot attempts come from backdoor layups.  He's like a mini-version of the old Princeton offense.  You either shoot a three, or layup.  No in between.

Max definitely has more to his game right now then Hauser.  He's also 2 years older.  Hauser started doing more pump-fake drives this year.  I'm sure that will be a big part of what he works on going into this next season.  Handles, floaters, mid range.  Max seems to be a bit more athletically then Hauser.  Max is an even worse on defense then Hauser.  When it comes to their shot.  Hauser is the better shooter.  He's shot over 40% since in the league and Max shot 35% last year, 41% in 2022 and 33.8 in 2021.  I think in 2 years time Hauser has a chance to be the better player but it all depends on what he develops outside of being an elite shooter.

[No Nickname]

I honestly don't see how Hauser is any worse than Max Struss who just got a huge contract from Cleveland. Or even Duncan Robinson.

Shot 42% from 3 during the season was decent at defense.  Sure he can't create shots. But run him off screens to get 3's or put him out there with ball handlers to sit in the corner.

Mazzulla should've played him more in the playoffs when we were struggling from 3.

While I admire what Hauser can do, I do see his limitations offensively.

Struss can actually pump fake from three, put the ball on the floor, and drive hard to the basket.  He's shown a propensity for drawing fouls at the rim, or even dunking in traffic.  Sam isn't that kind of player.

Robinson may not create his own offense with the dribble but he's an old-man's-game savant.  He's deadly from three, but if his man closes out quickly he can also pump fake, and side-step the closer and put up the jumper after taking the dribble.

Or, if the closer can stay relatively close to him by not leaping past him on the initial block attempt, Robinson will pump-fake-dribble and then pump-fake again.  This time the recovering defender (who's probably coming at him sideways now) more than likely will elevate for the block.  Here's where Robinson will pass-and-cut for a backdoor layup (if his teammate will make the pass).

I'd say 18-20% of Robinson's shot attempts come from backdoor layups.  He's like a mini-version of the old Princeton offense.  You either shoot a three, or layup.  No in between.

Max definitely has more to his game right now then Hauser.  He's also 2 years older.  Hauser started doing more pump-fake drives this year.  I'm sure that will be a big part of what he works on going into this next season.  Handles, floaters, mid range.  Max seems to be a bit more athletically then Hauser.  Max is an even worse on defense then Hauser.  When it comes to their shot.  Hauser is the better shooter.  He's shot over 40% since in the league and Max shot 35% last year, 41% in 2022 and 33.8 in 2021.  I think in 2 years time Hauser has a chance to be the better player but it all depends on what he develops outside of being an elite shooter.

Great stats pull.  And kudos on what Hauser is hopefully working on this offseason.

In college Sam had a nice little back-to-the-basket game from the elbows to the baseline.  He had a turnaround jumper against similar sized defenders that was lethal.

He was a lethal scorer with a variety of shots (none really going to the basket though).  Curling off of screens, using the pick-and-pop, etc. 

Now the athleticism is completely different in the NBA, but I hope that one day if he gets switched so that a guard is on him that he'll use his craftiness to create his own shot.

But with all the other weapons on the team that's probably not what any of the coaches would want him to do.

[Moranis]

When I say Hauser is inconsistent this is what I mean.

These are his monthly shooting percentages from 3 (with his attempts)

Oct - 55.6 (3)
Nov - 46.2 (4.9)
Dec - 28.3 (3.
Jan - 31.4 (2.7)
Feb - 49.1 (5)
Mar - 42.6 (3.
Apr - 42.9 (8.
1st - 45.5 (1.9)
ECS - 20 (1.3)
ECF - 25 (1.6)

He has spurts where he shoots amazingly, but then he invariably comes back down.  He was quite simply bad against Philly and Miami and since he can't do much of anything else, he is unplayable when he isn't hitting his shots.  Boston basically has taken the approach with Hauser that Miami has used with Robinson.  Robinson was hitting his shots, Hauser was not.

[Roy H.]

When I say Hauser is inconsistent this is what I mean.

These are his monthly shooting percentages from 3 (with his attempts)

Oct - 55.6 (3)
Nov - 46.2 (4.9)
Dec - 28.3 (3.
Jan - 31.4 (2.7)
Feb - 49.1 (5)
Mar - 42.6 (3.
Apr - 42.9 (8.
1st - 45.5 (1.9)
ECS - 20 (1.3)
ECF - 25 (1.6)

He has spurts where he shoots amazingly, but then he invariably comes back down.  He was quite simply bad against Philly and Miami and since he can't do much of anything else, he is unplayable when he isn't hitting his shots.  Boston basically has taken the approach with Hauser that Miami has used with Robinson.  Robinson was hitting his shots, Hauser was not.

Eh.  Hauser played about 40 minutes, total, against Philly and Miami.  He was never given a chance.

[Atzar]

It's almost impossible for a guy that deep in the rotation to be 'consistent'.  They get limited minutes and shots, and small samples are going to be all over the place statistically.  A month-by-month or series-by-series breakdown like this is most likely sample size noise rather than a sign that Hauser is streakier than most players in similar positions.  The Philly and Miami series were all of 20 minutes each, for example. 

[LilRip]

I believe in Hauser and I hope he gets more minutes. He doesn’t get burned defensively and I think he’ll get more shooting opportunities with Smart out and KP in (aka I think the team will have more driving/inside opportunities, which opens up the floor for Hauser)