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Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2022, 03:54:44 PM »

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I didn't see a whole lot honestly. If I were a 19 YO 53 pick first thing I'd do after signing for 500k is get a haircut and look like I took things more seriously perhaps? Won't make him play better but just a thought about growing up and responsibility.

Do you think short hair makes you more responsible?

My point was more a commitment . I would be trying to call attention to my play than looking crazy. I didnt even say short vs less crazy so whatevers. If we are looking at  a normal job chances are most employers would be thinking that way.

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2022, 06:02:52 PM »

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The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.
Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2022, 06:03:24 PM »

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I didn't see a whole lot honestly. If I were a 19 YO 53 pick first thing I'd do after signing for 500k is get a haircut and look like I took things more seriously perhaps? Won't make him play better but just a thought about growing up and responsibility.

Do you think short hair makes you more responsible?

My point was more a commitment . I would be trying to call attention to my play than looking crazy. I didnt even say short vs less crazy so whatevers. If we are looking at  a normal job chances are most employers would be thinking that way.
But we aren't looking at a normal job, we are looking at entertainers.
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2022, 08:00:54 PM »

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The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.
Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.


 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2022, 08:05:51 PM »

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The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.
Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.


 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Yeah agree with athletism in terms of jumping ability, and physicality around the hoop. Though Banks was super fast. Banks was a tease, as I had hoped he was going to turn out much better than he did..

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2022, 08:07:54 PM »

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The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.
Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.


 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Again, time will tell, but so far I’ve heard the kid has:

Elite athleticism
Very good to excellent size
Very good to excellent passing
Very good to excellent basketball IQ
Very good to excellent rebounding
A game reminiscent of Westbrook

The question I’m wondering is, if this stuff is so obvious, why did 52 guys get picked ahead of him?

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Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2022, 08:30:34 PM »

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The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.
Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.


 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.
Better passer? Based on what?
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2022, 09:18:09 PM »

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The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.
Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.

 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Again, time will tell, but so far I’ve heard the kid has:

Elite athleticism
Very good to excellent size
Very good to excellent passing
Very good to excellent basketball IQ
Very good to excellent rebounding
A game reminiscent of Westbrook

The question I’m wondering is, if this stuff is so obvious, why did 52 guys get picked ahead of him?
Considering this team's recent track record in the 2nd round, chances are he's not going to make it. But to me he looked decent in his first game and I'm looking forward to watching him develop.

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2022, 09:23:18 PM »

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The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.
Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.

 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Again, time will tell, but so far I’ve heard the kid has:

Elite athleticism
Very good to excellent size
Very good to excellent passing
Very good to excellent basketball IQ
Very good to excellent rebounding
A game reminiscent of Westbrook

The question I’m wondering is, if this stuff is so obvious, why did 52 guys get picked ahead of him?
Considering this team's recent track record in the 2nd round, chances are he's not going to make it. But to me he looked decent in his first game and I'm looking forward to watching him develop.

I definitely hope he makes it, and drafting for upside at #53 makes a ton of sense to me.

The hyperbole just cracks me up.  If Davison has the present day skills that some Celtics fans say he does, he should have dominated the SEC at the very least, and been a top-20 pick.  Some seemingly are under the belief that he's polished at everything other than shooting, which isn't my impression.


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Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2022, 09:32:08 PM »

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I get the feeling that Davison is young, raw, and probably needed a couple more years in college to mature physically and emotionally.  But he entered the draft and now he is in the NBA (sort of).  He seems to understand the challenge he faces.  That is a good start.  Confident but not cocky.

Bottom line he has a long way to go and tough odds to overcome.  But it seems he has the raw ability at least.  Fans need to be patient.  Resist the temptation to draw conclusions after one summer league game.

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2022, 09:40:02 PM »

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The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.
Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.

 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Again, time will tell, but so far I’ve heard the kid has:

Elite athleticism
Very good to excellent size
Very good to excellent passing
Very good to excellent basketball IQ
Very good to excellent rebounding
A game reminiscent of Westbrook

The question I’m wondering is, if this stuff is so obvious, why did 52 guys get picked ahead of him?
Considering this team's recent track record in the 2nd round, chances are he's not going to make it. But to me he looked decent in his first game and I'm looking forward to watching him develop.

I definitely hope he makes it, and drafting for upside at #53 makes a ton of sense to me.

The hyperbole just cracks me up.  If Davison has the present day skills that some Celtics fans say he does, he should have dominated the SEC at the very least, and been a top-20 pick.  Some seemingly are under the belief that he's polished at everything other than shooting, which isn't my impression.
We fans do tend to overreact - especially the ones who haven't watched basketball for a lot years. Those of us who aren't in that category remember the Charles Bradley's/Marcus Banks/Kedrick Brown's etc who were hyped as world beaters and wound up being anything but.

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2022, 10:46:23 PM »

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The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.
Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.

 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Again, time will tell, but so far I’ve heard the kid has:

Elite athleticism
Very good to excellent size
Very good to excellent passing
Very good to excellent basketball IQ
Very good to excellent rebounding
A game reminiscent of Westbrook

The question I’m wondering is, if this stuff is so obvious, why did 52 guys get picked ahead of him?
Considering this team's recent track record in the 2nd round, chances are he's not going to make it. But to me he looked decent in his first game and I'm looking forward to watching him develop.

I definitely hope he makes it, and drafting for upside at #53 makes a ton of sense to me.

The hyperbole just cracks me up.  If Davison has the present day skills that some Celtics fans say he does, he should have dominated the SEC at the very least, and been a top-20 pick.  Some seemingly are under the belief that he's polished at everything other than shooting, which isn't my impression.
We fans do tend to overreact - especially the ones who haven't watched basketball for a lot years. Those of us who aren't in that category remember the Charles Bradley's/Marcus Banks/Kedrick Brown's etc who were hyped as world beaters and wound up being anything but.

Just finished Sox yanks game and had a few beers. Took me like 5 reads to get Charles Bradley not Barkley

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2022, 11:23:15 PM »

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Kind of looked like Ja Morant to me from the highlights

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2022, 12:58:22 AM »

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He's the 53rd pick which is so valuable that the kid will get ripped to pieces in here. Witness the thread title.








 

Re: JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2022, 01:13:36 AM »

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He's the 53rd pick which is so valuable that the kid will get ripped to pieces in here. Witness the thread title.

Feels like even first rounders have been getting overrated. I like the analogy that draft picks are like throwing darts at a dartboard, and the lower the pick the harder it gets.

I'll still defend Ainge's picks during those years he had too many of them. Yabusele...etc. He was a feast or famine GM.

Also loving Brad's strategy right now. More of a moderate GM than Ainge, but guys like Davison and Begarann (sp?) look pretty good for what they are.