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Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #150 on: July 01, 2022, 12:41:34 PM »

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Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #151 on: July 01, 2022, 12:42:19 PM »

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I feel like this is going to be a Jason Terry / Michael Finley type signing. Hope and excited quickly squashed out by the realization that you are signing an old man whose wheels have fallen off.
He's not that old - 34 in August.
With a lot of injuries and lost quickness at 6-10.

He never was quick so not sure what he lost. He’s very stiff and not switchable on defense. Can see him more as small ball stretch 5 but more to give Al and Rob rest during regular season. Just don’t see his fit for us defensively. Ime must be rolling his eyes right now. But the guy can score. Great shooter, especially against Celtics!!
The guy that is good defensively and adds punch offensively doesn't exist for what we have to offer

This sorta reminds me of Bryan Colangelo in Toronto.

TOR's biggest need was 3pt shooting so they went out and signed Jason Kapono (one of the league's best 3pt shooters) only Kapono was a terrible defender & rebounder who contributed nothing outside of shooting 3s so he made the team worse despite improving the team's weakness.


Next summer TOR's biggest need was rebounding (in part due to Kapono's inability to rebound) so Colangelo went out and signed Reggie Evans. One of the league's finest rebounders. Only Reggie Evans was a terrible defensive player and god-awful offensive player who made the team worse despite fixing that rebounding problem.

Guys who fix one problem while creating new bigger problems for the team.


Focus on a singular issue (3pt shooting or rebounding, in our case bench scoring & shooting) while paying too little attention to the overall quality of the player and whether he makes the team better or not.

Marginal additions who cause new problems but we focus only on what good things they offer while ignoring the bad.


TP, Couldn’t agree more. I hate this signing for the MLE. He has one skill and he didn’t even do that too well last year, shooting 38% from 3pt. Not great for a “sniper”. Gallo is going to be a giant hole in the Celtics defense. I don’t know what Brad was thinking with this signing.

I don't get it either. I guess its OK if they just see him as a 11/12 guy to cover some spot minutes, mostly in the regular season. I don't see him in the playoff rotation.

Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #152 on: July 01, 2022, 12:43:58 PM »

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Good move. Fills a role/need on the bench. And for $6 mil it’s good value. Not sure what other options people really wanted that fixed our bench scoring for the MLE. Probably not great news for Grant Williams. I view Gallinari more as a 4 at this point than a wing.

Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #153 on: July 01, 2022, 12:45:10 PM »

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I don't know what I expect out of him at this point in his career.  My concern is that he'll hurt our defense and that his aging offensive game won't be enough to overcome it.  But if he can be a catch-and-shoot sniper with some secondary playmaking and acceptably below-average defense, then he could be very useful.  I do acknowledge that we need more firepower, so hopefully he can still deliver. 

Does he compete with Grant for a role, or do we think we can play them both somehow?  Maybe one starts next to Rob while the other comes off the bench with Horford.  That makes Theis an expensive third-stringer, but given the age and injury history of the group in front of him (Grant aside), maybe we're okay with that. 

Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #154 on: July 01, 2022, 12:49:51 PM »

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I feel like this is going to be a Jason Terry / Michael Finley type signing. Hope and excited quickly squashed out by the realization that you are signing an old man whose wheels have fallen off.
He's not that old - 34 in August.
With a lot of injuries and lost quickness at 6-10.

He never was quick so not sure what he lost. He’s very stiff and not switchable on defense. Can see him more as small ball stretch 5 but more to give Al and Rob rest during regular season. Just don’t see his fit for us defensively. Ime must be rolling his eyes right now. But the guy can score. Great shooter, especially against Celtics!!
The guy that is good defensively and adds punch offensively doesn't exist for what we have to offer

This sorta reminds me of Bryan Colangelo in Toronto.

TOR's biggest need was 3pt shooting so they went out and signed Jason Kapono (one of the league's best 3pt shooters) only Kapono was a terrible defender & rebounder who contributed nothing outside of shooting 3s so he made the team worse despite improving the team's weakness.


Next summer TOR's biggest need was rebounding (in part due to Kapono's inability to rebound) so Colangelo went out and signed Reggie Evans. One of the league's finest rebounders. Only Reggie Evans was a terrible defensive player and god-awful offensive player who made the team worse despite fixing that rebounding problem.

Guys who fix one problem while creating new bigger problems for the team.


Focus on a singular issue (3pt shooting or rebounding, in our case bench scoring & shooting) while paying too little attention to the overall quality of the player and whether he makes the team better or not.

Marginal additions who cause new problems but we focus only on what good things they offer while ignoring the bad.


TP, Couldn’t agree more. I hate this signing for the MLE. He has one skill and he didn’t even do that too well last year, shooting 38% from 3pt. Not great for a “sniper”. Gallo is going to be a giant hole in the Celtics defense. I don’t know what Brad was thinking with this signing.

I don't get it either. I guess its OK if they just see him as a 11/12 guy to cover some spot minutes, mostly in the regular season. I don't see him in the playoff rotation.

You don’t pay a player the MLE to be an 11/12 guy, though. Was just talking to one of my friends who is a Knicks fan and he goes, “I don’t blame you for not liking the signing. Dude has cement blocks for feet and he’s right on the edge of being physically incapable of doing anything. Still can shoot tho..”

Hard to disagree with that. Awesome…
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Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #155 on: July 01, 2022, 12:56:48 PM »

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I feel like this is going to be a Jason Terry / Michael Finley type signing. Hope and excited quickly squashed out by the realization that you are signing an old man whose wheels have fallen off.
He's not that old - 34 in August.
With a lot of injuries and lost quickness at 6-10.

He never was quick so not sure what he lost. He’s very stiff and not switchable on defense. Can see him more as small ball stretch 5 but more to give Al and Rob rest during regular season. Just don’t see his fit for us defensively. Ime must be rolling his eyes right now. But the guy can score. Great shooter, especially against Celtics!!
The guy that is good defensively and adds punch offensively doesn't exist for what we have to offer

This sorta reminds me of Bryan Colangelo in Toronto.

TOR's biggest need was 3pt shooting so they went out and signed Jason Kapono (one of the league's best 3pt shooters) only Kapono was a terrible defender & rebounder who contributed nothing outside of shooting 3s so he made the team worse despite improving the team's weakness.


Next summer TOR's biggest need was rebounding (in part due to Kapono's inability to rebound) so Colangelo went out and signed Reggie Evans. One of the league's finest rebounders. Only Reggie Evans was a terrible defensive player and god-awful offensive player who made the team worse despite fixing that rebounding problem.

Guys who fix one problem while creating new bigger problems for the team.


Focus on a singular issue (3pt shooting or rebounding, in our case bench scoring & shooting) while paying too little attention to the overall quality of the player and whether he makes the team better or not.

Marginal additions who cause new problems but we focus only on what good things they offer while ignoring the bad.


TP, Couldn’t agree more. I hate this signing for the MLE. He has one skill and he didn’t even do that too well last year, shooting 38% from 3pt. Not great for a “sniper”. Gallo is going to be a giant hole in the Celtics defense. I don’t know what Brad was thinking with this signing.

I don't get it either. I guess its OK if they just see him as a 11/12 guy to cover some spot minutes, mostly in the regular season. I don't see him in the playoff rotation.

You don’t pay a player the MLE to be an 11/12 guy, though. Was just talking to one of my friends who is a Knicks fan and he goes, “I don’t blame you for not liking the signing. Dude has cement blocks for feet and he’s right on the edge of being physically incapable of doing anything. Still can shoot tho..”

Hard to disagree with that. Awesome…

Who are the 10 or 11 guys ahead of him?


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Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #156 on: July 01, 2022, 12:58:46 PM »

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Least excited I’ve ever been about a signing. This makes the Tristan Thompson signing seem like Christmas morning.

Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #157 on: July 01, 2022, 01:04:14 PM »

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"Brad is asleep! He's not doing anything!!!!"

*Brad brings in a proven elite three point shooter*

"I hate it!! Brad is so stupid! Awful move!"

Mad just to be mad lol

Sums it up.

Hopefully he's still taking to Atlanta. With Holiday added there is still a chance Heurter or Collins shake lose at a discount.

Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #158 on: July 01, 2022, 01:07:57 PM »

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Gali has always been a guy who I knew could come of the bench when in an opponent’s uniform and give them some offense. No reason to think he won’t add value here.  And really doesn’t matter if someone else might have been better at the MLE. It only matters if that other guy would have come here.

I’m trusting CBS that this will turn out positive - not a big needle-mover but decent guy as an 8th to 10th reg season rotation guy.   I think some here had unrealistic hopes for that slot.

Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #159 on: July 01, 2022, 01:09:31 PM »

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I feel like this is going to be a Jason Terry / Michael Finley type signing. Hope and excited quickly squashed out by the realization that you are signing an old man whose wheels have fallen off.
He's not that old - 34 in August.
With a lot of injuries and lost quickness at 6-10.

He never was quick so not sure what he lost. He’s very stiff and not switchable on defense. Can see him more as small ball stretch 5 but more to give Al and Rob rest during regular season. Just don’t see his fit for us defensively. Ime must be rolling his eyes right now. But the guy can score. Great shooter, especially against Celtics!!
The guy that is good defensively and adds punch offensively doesn't exist for what we have to offer

This sorta reminds me of Bryan Colangelo in Toronto.

TOR's biggest need was 3pt shooting so they went out and signed Jason Kapono (one of the league's best 3pt shooters) only Kapono was a terrible defender & rebounder who contributed nothing outside of shooting 3s so he made the team worse despite improving the team's weakness.

Next summer TOR's biggest need was rebounding (in part due to Kapono's inability to rebound) so Colangelo went out and signed Reggie Evans. One of the league's finest rebounders. Only Reggie Evans was a terrible defensive player and god-awful offensive player who made the team worse despite fixing that rebounding problem.

Guys who fix one problem while creating new bigger problems for the team.

Focus on a singular issue (3pt shooting or rebounding, in our case bench scoring & shooting) while paying too little attention to the overall quality of the player and whether he makes the team better or not.

Marginal additions who cause new problems but we focus only on what good things they offer while ignoring the bad.

There's a really, really big difference in a guy like Gallinari vs. a guy like Kapono.  Kapono was the 4th highest paid player on his team.  Gallinari is currently slated to be the 8th-highest paid player, and his role will probably slot him somewhere between the 7th and 9th slots in the rotation.  The Celtics were looking for a guy who filled a certain role.  He certainly has warts, but most guys who are in the 7th-9th spots in the rotation do -- that's why they're on the bench a lot.  If Gallo were taking the same amount of salary space as Kapono, he'd be getting $13 million this year, instead of $6.5 million, and then you might have a better argument.  But Gallo is being paid like a reserve who can do some things, but not everything well, and that's the role the Celtics have for him.

It's not an amazing signing, and he wasn't my first choice.  But as I've said repeatedly, the Celtics best chance to get an impact player has always been through the TPE, because impact guys are making $13-17 million (or more), and not $6.5 million.

Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #160 on: July 01, 2022, 01:10:55 PM »

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Some solid bench scoring with elite 3 point and free throw shooting while staying with size and length.  Good signing, I like it.  He’s also a better defender than people make him out to be.

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« Reply #161 on: July 01, 2022, 01:11:09 PM »

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Scratch Huerter from the list. Traded to kings

Re: Report: Gallinari signing with Celtics upon clearing waivers
« Reply #162 on: July 01, 2022, 01:15:37 PM »

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I love what gallo brings.  A big wing with 3 pt skill.  Can help a bit in the post if we play small.

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« Reply #163 on: July 01, 2022, 01:18:47 PM »

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Scratch Huerter from the list. Traded to kings


Kings acquire Kevin Huerter from Hawks for Justin Holiday, Mo Harkless, and future first round pick, per Woj.

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« Reply #164 on: July 01, 2022, 01:26:02 PM »

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I feel like this is going to be a Jason Terry / Michael Finley type signing. Hope and excited quickly squashed out by the realization that you are signing an old man whose wheels have fallen off.
He's not that old - 34 in August.
With a lot of injuries and lost quickness at 6-10.

He never was quick so not sure what he lost. He’s very stiff and not switchable on defense. Can see him more as small ball stretch 5 but more to give Al and Rob rest during regular season. Just don’t see his fit for us defensively. Ime must be rolling his eyes right now. But the guy can score. Great shooter, especially against Celtics!!
The guy that is good defensively and adds punch offensively doesn't exist for what we have to offer

This sorta reminds me of Bryan Colangelo in Toronto.

TOR's biggest need was 3pt shooting so they went out and signed Jason Kapono (one of the league's best 3pt shooters) only Kapono was a terrible defender & rebounder who contributed nothing outside of shooting 3s so he made the team worse despite improving the team's weakness.


Next summer TOR's biggest need was rebounding (in part due to Kapono's inability to rebound) so Colangelo went out and signed Reggie Evans. One of the league's finest rebounders. Only Reggie Evans was a terrible defensive player and god-awful offensive player who made the team worse despite fixing that rebounding problem.

Guys who fix one problem while creating new bigger problems for the team.


Focus on a singular issue (3pt shooting or rebounding, in our case bench scoring & shooting) while paying too little attention to the overall quality of the player and whether he makes the team better or not.

Marginal additions who cause new problems but we focus only on what good things they offer while ignoring the bad.


TP, Couldn’t agree more. I hate this signing for the MLE. He has one skill and he didn’t even do that too well last year, shooting 38% from 3pt. Not great for a “sniper”. Gallo is going to be a giant hole in the Celtics defense. I don’t know what Brad was thinking with this signing.

I don't get it either. I guess its OK if they just see him as a 11/12 guy to cover some spot minutes, mostly in the regular season. I don't see him in the playoff rotation.

You don’t pay a player the MLE to be an 11/12 guy, though. Was just talking to one of my friends who is a Knicks fan and he goes, “I don’t blame you for not liking the signing. Dude has cement blocks for feet and he’s right on the edge of being physically incapable of doing anything. Still can shoot tho..”

Hard to disagree with that. Awesome…

Who are the 10 or 11 guys ahead of him?

Td450 would have to answer that, but I do think Grant is a better option in just about every way. Grant even shot a better percentage from 3pt last year..Gallo’s poor defense and average rebounding ability could put him behind Theis, who I expect to be better this coming season. So he’s the 3rd or 4th string PF for the MLE…
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