Celtics trade grades?

[Goldstar88]

If he makes 1 more 3 pointer every other game in those 13 games he's 21/57 (37%).

I hate arguments like this in general.  While this is true, if he misses one more 3 pointer every other game in those 13 games he's 7/57 (12%).

I don't think hypotheticals that didn't happen tell us a lot.

I agree, hence me saying the sample size is too small and good or bad games wildly swing the averages in the same paragraph.

48 games in SA this year and he wasn’t much better at 30%. Outside of his rookie season when he barely played, White has only had 1 year shooting over 35% from 3pt, which was during the 2019 season. Not sure why people are convinced that he’s going to start shooting better.

I don't understand that either.  he's not a proven outside shooter having a down year -- he's a player that has yet to show he's a reliable outside shooter.  A better ball handler and passer than Richardson -- sure, I'll go along with that.  A better shooter - nope.  A better scorer -- nope.  better for our offense -- not seeing it --> seems to be about equivalent in the sense where Richardson was a better scorer whereas White is a better passer and provides a secondary ball handler with Smart but until White can make something with consistency (even Smart is pretty consistent from in the lane and within 15 feet which White has not shown yet) he's not improving this team's offense.  Defensively, he's switchable but so was Richardson and he wasn't a slouch on D.

Can you explain what you mean by "better scorer"?

I'll agree with better shooter.  But, White seems to be more of a scorer to me, whereas Richardson seemed more passive.

by better scorer, I'm referring to the ability to put the ball in the basket while on the move -- driving into the paint, driving and pulling up for an easy 2, etc...   by shooter, I'm referring to the ability to hit shots from 3 and catch-and-shoot situations from wherever on the floor.

Exactly, Richardson was making 3’s at a high clip, had a midrange shot and could score by driving to the rim. White can’t score outside of the paint. His midrange shooting is as bad as his 3pt.

Makes it all the more an indictment on Richardson's inability to assert himself then, as White outscores him per possession quite comfortably, while also generating significantly more points for others and free throws.

inability?  this would mean he tried and could not do so.   watching how everyone other than Schroder and Smart (sometimes) deferred to the J's on offense, I wouldn't say he had an inability to do so but rather a direction/mentality from the coaching staff as a more likely explanation.  still see that with the team post trade.  difference is Richardson could put the ball in the bucket whereas White is struggling to do so.

I don't think that Richardson was directed to keep his shots down, or defer to the Jays.  I think he's just passive, for whatever reason.  It's one of the arguments I made about Langford:  scoring rate is an important and overlooked stat.  Some guys just don't take shots, which can hurt an offense no matter how good their efficiency is.

I think that this is a weakness of Richardson's, rather than any sort of coaching strategy.  For most of his career Richardson has settled into that 11-to-12 FGAs per 36 minutes range.  That's where he was for a lot of his career in Miami, in Boston, and now in San Antonio.  That doesn't make him necessarily unaggressive -- it's about middle of the road for Celtics this year -- but it doesn't make him a scorer, either.  He doesn't force the action in a bad way, but he also isn't aggressive in a good way, either.

I like that White drives the ball and moves with purpose.  It just sucks that his jumper looks horrible so far.

The griping about White's shot is pretty trivial to me. He isn't a 24% three point shooter. We all know that. Same as we knew Tatum wasn't a 32% three point shooter. Same as we know Jaylen isn't a 33% three point shooter. Slumps happen.

And if White hit his threes at 36%, a reasonable ask, he makes, in total, just 5 more three pointers so far, increasing his PPG to 11.8 PPG, he increases his FG% to 44.6%(his career average) and increases his TS% to 56.8%.

5 three pointers.....that's it.

If he makes those five shots, is he now performing well and the trade looked upon more favorably? Seems to me if it does, then it certainly is a case of making a rash decision based on a small sample size.

It should also be noted that on trade day the Celtics were averaging 108.4 PPG. In the 11 games since they are averaging 115.4 PPG. Did getting rid of Richardson's passivity and Schröder's ball hogging ways and replacing them with White and Payton's games improve ball movement and overall team offensive performance?

How is it a reasonable ask when outside of his rookie year, In which he barely played, he’s only shot 36% from 3pt once in his career. Isn’t it more reasonable to expect that he won’t?

[nickagneta]

If he makes 1 more 3 pointer every other game in those 13 games he's 21/57 (37%).

I hate arguments like this in general.  While this is true, if he misses one more 3 pointer every other game in those 13 games he's 7/57 (12%).

I don't think hypotheticals that didn't happen tell us a lot.

I agree, hence me saying the sample size is too small and good or bad games wildly swing the averages in the same paragraph.

48 games in SA this year and he wasn’t much better at 30%. Outside of his rookie season when he barely played, White has only had 1 year shooting over 35% from 3pt, which was during the 2019 season. Not sure why people are convinced that he’s going to start shooting better.

I don't understand that either.  he's not a proven outside shooter having a down year -- he's a player that has yet to show he's a reliable outside shooter.  A better ball handler and passer than Richardson -- sure, I'll go along with that.  A better shooter - nope.  A better scorer -- nope.  better for our offense -- not seeing it --> seems to be about equivalent in the sense where Richardson was a better scorer whereas White is a better passer and provides a secondary ball handler with Smart but until White can make something with consistency (even Smart is pretty consistent from in the lane and within 15 feet which White has not shown yet) he's not improving this team's offense.  Defensively, he's switchable but so was Richardson and he wasn't a slouch on D.

Can you explain what you mean by "better scorer"?

I'll agree with better shooter.  But, White seems to be more of a scorer to me, whereas Richardson seemed more passive.

by better scorer, I'm referring to the ability to put the ball in the basket while on the move -- driving into the paint, driving and pulling up for an easy 2, etc...   by shooter, I'm referring to the ability to hit shots from 3 and catch-and-shoot situations from wherever on the floor.

Exactly, Richardson was making 3’s at a high clip, had a midrange shot and could score by driving to the rim. White can’t score outside of the paint. His midrange shooting is as bad as his 3pt.

Makes it all the more an indictment on Richardson's inability to assert himself then, as White outscores him per possession quite comfortably, while also generating significantly more points for others and free throws.

inability?  this would mean he tried and could not do so.   watching how everyone other than Schroder and Smart (sometimes) deferred to the J's on offense, I wouldn't say he had an inability to do so but rather a direction/mentality from the coaching staff as a more likely explanation.  still see that with the team post trade.  difference is Richardson could put the ball in the bucket whereas White is struggling to do so.

I don't think that Richardson was directed to keep his shots down, or defer to the Jays.  I think he's just passive, for whatever reason.  It's one of the arguments I made about Langford:  scoring rate is an important and overlooked stat.  Some guys just don't take shots, which can hurt an offense no matter how good their efficiency is.

I think that this is a weakness of Richardson's, rather than any sort of coaching strategy.  For most of his career Richardson has settled into that 11-to-12 FGAs per 36 minutes range.  That's where he was for a lot of his career in Miami, in Boston, and now in San Antonio.  That doesn't make him necessarily unaggressive -- it's about middle of the road for Celtics this year -- but it doesn't make him a scorer, either.  He doesn't force the action in a bad way, but he also isn't aggressive in a good way, either.

I like that White drives the ball and moves with purpose.  It just sucks that his jumper looks horrible so far.

The griping about White's shot is pretty trivial to me. He isn't a 24% three point shooter. We all know that. Same as we knew Tatum wasn't a 32% three point shooter. Same as we know Jaylen isn't a 33% three point shooter. Slumps happen.

And if White hit his threes at 36%, a reasonable ask, he makes, in total, just 5 more three pointers so far, increasing his PPG to 11.8 PPG, he increases his FG% to 44.6%(his career average) and increases his TS% to 56.8%.

5 three pointers.....that's it.

If he makes those five shots, is he now performing well and the trade looked upon more favorably? Seems to me if it does, then it certainly is a case of making a rash decision based on a small sample size.

It should also be noted that on trade day the Celtics were averaging 108.4 PPG. In the 11 games since they are averaging 115.4 PPG. Did getting rid of Richardson's passivity and Schröder's ball hogging ways and replacing them with White and Payton's games improve ball movement and overall team offensive performance?

How is it a reasonable ask when outside of his rookie year, In which he barely played, he’s only shot 36% from 3pt once in his career. Isn’t it more reasonable to expect that he won’t?

See the post just above yours. It's explained there

[Goldstar88]

If he makes 1 more 3 pointer every other game in those 13 games he's 21/57 (37%).

I hate arguments like this in general.  While this is true, if he misses one more 3 pointer every other game in those 13 games he's 7/57 (12%).

I don't think hypotheticals that didn't happen tell us a lot.

I agree, hence me saying the sample size is too small and good or bad games wildly swing the averages in the same paragraph.

48 games in SA this year and he wasn’t much better at 30%. Outside of his rookie season when he barely played, White has only had 1 year shooting over 35% from 3pt, which was during the 2019 season. Not sure why people are convinced that he’s going to start shooting better.

I don't understand that either.  he's not a proven outside shooter having a down year -- he's a player that has yet to show he's a reliable outside shooter.  A better ball handler and passer than Richardson -- sure, I'll go along with that.  A better shooter - nope.  A better scorer -- nope.  better for our offense -- not seeing it --> seems to be about equivalent in the sense where Richardson was a better scorer whereas White is a better passer and provides a secondary ball handler with Smart but until White can make something with consistency (even Smart is pretty consistent from in the lane and within 15 feet which White has not shown yet) he's not improving this team's offense.  Defensively, he's switchable but so was Richardson and he wasn't a slouch on D.

Can you explain what you mean by "better scorer"?

I'll agree with better shooter.  But, White seems to be more of a scorer to me, whereas Richardson seemed more passive.

by better scorer, I'm referring to the ability to put the ball in the basket while on the move -- driving into the paint, driving and pulling up for an easy 2, etc...   by shooter, I'm referring to the ability to hit shots from 3 and catch-and-shoot situations from wherever on the floor.

Exactly, Richardson was making 3’s at a high clip, had a midrange shot and could score by driving to the rim. White can’t score outside of the paint. His midrange shooting is as bad as his 3pt.

Makes it all the more an indictment on Richardson's inability to assert himself then, as White outscores him per possession quite comfortably, while also generating significantly more points for others and free throws.

inability?  this would mean he tried and could not do so.   watching how everyone other than Schroder and Smart (sometimes) deferred to the J's on offense, I wouldn't say he had an inability to do so but rather a direction/mentality from the coaching staff as a more likely explanation.  still see that with the team post trade.  difference is Richardson could put the ball in the bucket whereas White is struggling to do so.

I don't think that Richardson was directed to keep his shots down, or defer to the Jays.  I think he's just passive, for whatever reason.  It's one of the arguments I made about Langford:  scoring rate is an important and overlooked stat.  Some guys just don't take shots, which can hurt an offense no matter how good their efficiency is.

I think that this is a weakness of Richardson's, rather than any sort of coaching strategy.  For most of his career Richardson has settled into that 11-to-12 FGAs per 36 minutes range.  That's where he was for a lot of his career in Miami, in Boston, and now in San Antonio.  That doesn't make him necessarily unaggressive -- it's about middle of the road for Celtics this year -- but it doesn't make him a scorer, either.  He doesn't force the action in a bad way, but he also isn't aggressive in a good way, either.

I like that White drives the ball and moves with purpose.  It just sucks that his jumper looks horrible so far.

The griping about White's shot is pretty trivial to me. He isn't a 24% three point shooter. We all know that. Same as we knew Tatum wasn't a 32% three point shooter. Same as we know Jaylen isn't a 33% three point shooter. Slumps happen.

And if White hit his threes at 36%, a reasonable ask, he makes, in total, just 5 more three pointers so far, increasing his PPG to 11.8 PPG, he increases his FG% to 44.6%(his career average) and increases his TS% to 56.8%.

5 three pointers.....that's it.

If he makes those five shots, is he now performing well and the trade looked upon more favorably? Seems to me if it does, then it certainly is a case of making a rash decision based on a small sample size.

It should also be noted that on trade day the Celtics were averaging 108.4 PPG. In the 11 games since they are averaging 115.4 PPG. Did getting rid of Richardson's passivity and Schröder's ball hogging ways and replacing them with White and Payton's games improve ball movement and overall team offensive performance?

How is it a reasonable ask when outside of his rookie year, In which he barely played, he’s only shot 36% from 3pt once in his career. Isn’t it more reasonable to expect that he won’t?

See the post just above yours. It's explained there

So you are Including his rookie year where he played only 17 games and averaged 8mpg, took 0.8 shots from 3pt and made them at a rate of 66%, but you are excluding his poor shooting (while playing significant minutes) this season in SA(30%)over 59 games  and even worse shooting recently in Boston(24%) over the last 13 games, as the sample size is too small. Got it. 

[nickagneta]

If he makes 1 more 3 pointer every other game in those 13 games he's 21/57 (37%).

I hate arguments like this in general.  While this is true, if he misses one more 3 pointer every other game in those 13 games he's 7/57 (12%).

I don't think hypotheticals that didn't happen tell us a lot.

I agree, hence me saying the sample size is too small and good or bad games wildly swing the averages in the same paragraph.

48 games in SA this year and he wasn’t much better at 30%. Outside of his rookie season when he barely played, White has only had 1 year shooting over 35% from 3pt, which was during the 2019 season. Not sure why people are convinced that he’s going to start shooting better.

I don't understand that either.  he's not a proven outside shooter having a down year -- he's a player that has yet to show he's a reliable outside shooter.  A better ball handler and passer than Richardson -- sure, I'll go along with that.  A better shooter - nope.  A better scorer -- nope.  better for our offense -- not seeing it --> seems to be about equivalent in the sense where Richardson was a better scorer whereas White is a better passer and provides a secondary ball handler with Smart but until White can make something with consistency (even Smart is pretty consistent from in the lane and within 15 feet which White has not shown yet) he's not improving this team's offense.  Defensively, he's switchable but so was Richardson and he wasn't a slouch on D.

Can you explain what you mean by "better scorer"?

I'll agree with better shooter.  But, White seems to be more of a scorer to me, whereas Richardson seemed more passive.

by better scorer, I'm referring to the ability to put the ball in the basket while on the move -- driving into the paint, driving and pulling up for an easy 2, etc...   by shooter, I'm referring to the ability to hit shots from 3 and catch-and-shoot situations from wherever on the floor.

Exactly, Richardson was making 3’s at a high clip, had a midrange shot and could score by driving to the rim. White can’t score outside of the paint. His midrange shooting is as bad as his 3pt.

Makes it all the more an indictment on Richardson's inability to assert himself then, as White outscores him per possession quite comfortably, while also generating significantly more points for others and free throws.

inability?  this would mean he tried and could not do so.   watching how everyone other than Schroder and Smart (sometimes) deferred to the J's on offense, I wouldn't say he had an inability to do so but rather a direction/mentality from the coaching staff as a more likely explanation.  still see that with the team post trade.  difference is Richardson could put the ball in the bucket whereas White is struggling to do so.

I don't think that Richardson was directed to keep his shots down, or defer to the Jays.  I think he's just passive, for whatever reason.  It's one of the arguments I made about Langford:  scoring rate is an important and overlooked stat.  Some guys just don't take shots, which can hurt an offense no matter how good their efficiency is.

I think that this is a weakness of Richardson's, rather than any sort of coaching strategy.  For most of his career Richardson has settled into that 11-to-12 FGAs per 36 minutes range.  That's where he was for a lot of his career in Miami, in Boston, and now in San Antonio.  That doesn't make him necessarily unaggressive -- it's about middle of the road for Celtics this year -- but it doesn't make him a scorer, either.  He doesn't force the action in a bad way, but he also isn't aggressive in a good way, either.

I like that White drives the ball and moves with purpose.  It just sucks that his jumper looks horrible so far.

The griping about White's shot is pretty trivial to me. He isn't a 24% three point shooter. We all know that. Same as we knew Tatum wasn't a 32% three point shooter. Same as we know Jaylen isn't a 33% three point shooter. Slumps happen.

And if White hit his threes at 36%, a reasonable ask, he makes, in total, just 5 more three pointers so far, increasing his PPG to 11.8 PPG, he increases his FG% to 44.6%(his career average) and increases his TS% to 56.8%.

5 three pointers.....that's it.

If he makes those five shots, is he now performing well and the trade looked upon more favorably? Seems to me if it does, then it certainly is a case of making a rash decision based on a small sample size.

It should also be noted that on trade day the Celtics were averaging 108.4 PPG. In the 11 games since they are averaging 115.4 PPG. Did getting rid of Richardson's passivity and Schröder's ball hogging ways and replacing them with White and Payton's games improve ball movement and overall team offensive performance?

How is it a reasonable ask when outside of his rookie year, In which he barely played, he’s only shot 36% from 3pt once in his career. Isn’t it more reasonable to expect that he won’t?

See the post just above yours. It's explained there

So you are Including his rookie year where he played only 17 games and averaged 8mpg, took 0.8 shots from 3pt and made them at a rate of 66%, but you are excluding his poor shooting (while playing significant minutes) this season in SA(30%)over 59 games  and even worse shooting recently in Boston(24%) over the last 13 games, as the sample size is too small. Got it. 

Sigh.....

The thinking was explained. If you chalk this up to a bad shooting year, much like Tatum and Brown and a bunch of other pros are having bad shooting years, it's not unreasonable to expect him to return to what he was before this year....a 35.7% three point shooter.

I am dumbfounded as to why this is so hard to understand.

[slamtheking]

The argument of if he hit a few more or missed a few more is a hypothetical, agreed but this season on the Celtics, he has only taken 50 or so 3s and is shooting 24%.  Before this season, he was a career 35.6% from 3 (over 600 attempts).  So yeah, you could say that in his career, if he had missed 100 more shots or something, then he would be shooting 25% but that is far less reasonable than to play that game with a sample size of only 50 shots.  And it would be the same if he had shot 45% on his first 50 attempts.  You wouldn't expect that to continue anymore than this 24% shooting.

But that aside, which do you think is more representative of who he is as a player or who he will be as a player moving forward?  The 24% on the most recent 50 shots or the 36% on the previous 600 shots?  I get that it is hard to ignore all the "clanking" shots he has had since joining the Celtics as you try to assess the trade.  That is what there is to see so far.  I just think it is far more likely he is really the 35%-36% shooter that he was over 600 attempts than he is the 24% shooter over the last 50 attempts.

what I'm curious about is where people are coming up with this figure of White being a career 36% shooter from 3.  He had one year where he made that percentage --> 19-20 for 36.6%.  That's it.   Discounting his rookie year where he only played 17 games and hit .5 on .8 per game (8 for 13 total), his full season averages were 33.8% in 18-19, the 36.6% mentioned in 19-20, 34.6% in 20-21 and 31.4/24.6 split this season for 30.2% overall.  That's not great outside shooting.  I can go along with he's shooting worse than he has in SA since he's been in Boston but I'm not seeing anything in SA that screams out "this guy is a good shooter going through a slump".  He's just a mediocre shooter in a slump. 

Compare him to Smart over the past 4 years and Smart's been the better 3 point shooter and we all know how we feel about Smart taking 3's.  That's even accounting for Smart's disregard for his shooting percentage when he's the one usually taking the last-second heaves at the end of quarters (which I fully appreciate him taking that chance instead of dribbling out the clock).

You're kidding regarding his career three point percentage right?

It's real simple. Go to basketball-reference.com. Highlight his first four years in the league. And they will give you a total on his career. 188 games played. 35.7% three point percentage.

need to account for this season.  it's part of his career whether anyone likes it or not.

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314 makes/929 attempts = 33.8%  that's in 250 games.  that's including this year.  whether people like it or not, this year counts as much as any other particularly when he's attempted almost 100 more 3's than the next closest year. 

[Vermont Green]

White last night 0-8 overall, 0-5 from 3.  Down to 22.6% from 3 while with the Celtics.  He was having trouble hitting the rim.

Time to break out the sports phycologist or maybe a hypnotist.  Some form of intervention is needed.

[Celtics2021]

White last night 0-8 overall, 0-5 from 3.  Down to 22.6% from 3 while with the Celtics.  He was having trouble hitting the rim.

Time to break out the sports phycologist or maybe a hypnotist.  Some form of intervention is needed.

He did everything else well.  Shooting is way off right now, but he’s still a better fit as a PG than Schröder.  I will agree he’s not playing like a guy worth a 1st and a swap, but I’d still rather have our post-deadline roster than our pre-deadline roster.  The ball moves with White, even if sometimes that movement results with him bricking a wide-open shot.  If it’s working with him missing, it’ll work even better when the shot comes back.

[Roy H.]

White last night 0-8 overall, 0-5 from 3.  Down to 22.6% from 3 while with the Celtics.  He was having trouble hitting the rim.

Time to break out the sports phycologist or maybe a hypnotist.  Some form of intervention is needed.

He did everything else well.  Shooting is way off right now, but he’s still a better fit as a PG than Schröder.  I will agree he’s not playing like a guy worth a 1st and a swap, but I’d still rather have our post-deadline roster than our pre-deadline roster.  The ball moves with White, even if sometimes that movement results with him bricking a wide-open shot.

Yeah, he defends, passes, penetrates, gets to the line, and generally hits his shots from inside the arc.  My guess is that if you tracked his movement, he'd be near the top on the team.  He's reportedly good in the locker room.

It's just his three point shot that is broken.  I suspect he's inside his own head a bit. 

[slamtheking]

White last night 0-8 overall, 0-5 from 3.  Down to 22.6% from 3 while with the Celtics.  He was having trouble hitting the rim.

Time to break out the sports phycologist or maybe a hypnotist.  Some form of intervention is needed.

He did everything else well.  Shooting is way off right now, but he’s still a better fit as a PG than Schröder.  I will agree he’s not playing like a guy worth a 1st and a swap, but I’d still rather have our post-deadline roster than our pre-deadline roster.  The ball moves with White, even if sometimes that movement results with him bricking a wide-open shot.

Yeah, he defends, passes, penetrates, gets to the line, and generally hits his shots from inside the arc.  My guess is that if you tracked his movement, he'd be near the top on the team.  He's reportedly good in the locker room.

It's just his three point shot that is broken.  I suspect he's inside his own head a bit.

it's not just his 3 point shot that he's missing.  he's missing from everywhere.

[Roy H.]

White last night 0-8 overall, 0-5 from 3.  Down to 22.6% from 3 while with the Celtics.  He was having trouble hitting the rim.

Time to break out the sports phycologist or maybe a hypnotist.  Some form of intervention is needed.

He did everything else well.  Shooting is way off right now, but he’s still a better fit as a PG than Schröder.  I will agree he’s not playing like a guy worth a 1st and a swap, but I’d still rather have our post-deadline roster than our pre-deadline roster.  The ball moves with White, even if sometimes that movement results with him bricking a wide-open shot.

Yeah, he defends, passes, penetrates, gets to the line, and generally hits his shots from inside the arc.  My guess is that if you tracked his movement, he'd be near the top on the team.  He's reportedly good in the locker room.

It's just his three point shot that is broken.  I suspect he's inside his own head a bit.

it's not just his 3 point shot that he's missing.  he's missing from everywhere.

Not everywhere.  52.2% from inside the arc.

That's actually better than Tatum, Smart, Schroder, Pritchard and Richardson.  White has sucked outside of 16 feet, but anything inside of that he's been good.

[gift]

White last night 0-8 overall, 0-5 from 3.  Down to 22.6% from 3 while with the Celtics.  He was having trouble hitting the rim.

Time to break out the sports phycologist or maybe a hypnotist.  Some form of intervention is needed.

Did they happen to get the brain doctor's number from Danny over the weekend?

[Vermont Green]

White last night 0-8 overall, 0-5 from 3.  Down to 22.6% from 3 while with the Celtics.  He was having trouble hitting the rim.

Time to break out the sports phycologist or maybe a hypnotist.  Some form of intervention is needed.

He did everything else well.  Shooting is way off right now, but he’s still a better fit as a PG than Schröder.  I will agree he’s not playing like a guy worth a 1st and a swap, but I’d still rather have our post-deadline roster than our pre-deadline roster.  The ball moves with White, even if sometimes that movement results with him bricking a wide-open shot.

Yeah, he defends, passes, penetrates, gets to the line, and generally hits his shots from inside the arc.  My guess is that if you tracked his movement, he'd be near the top on the team.  He's reportedly good in the locker room.

It's just his three point shot that is broken.  I suspect he's inside his own head a bit.

I agree with both Celtics2021 and Roy but he clearly has the "yips" with his shot right now.  Up until last night, it was fair to say he was shooting OK other than 3s but last night he was having trouble hitting the rim even on simple floaters.

I think he is a good player, he is contributing in a number of ways, but he will be a whole lot better if they can get his shot fixed for the playoffs.  I think he is going to turn out to be a plenty fine shooter, in the 35%'ish range from 3 but we could use some of that now and we certainly need it come playoff time.

[Goldstar88]

White last night 0-8 overall, 0-5 from 3.  Down to 22.6% from 3 while with the Celtics.  He was having trouble hitting the rim.

Time to break out the sports phycologist or maybe a hypnotist.  Some form of intervention is needed.

He did everything else well.  Shooting is way off right now, but he’s still a better fit as a PG than Schröder.  I will agree he’s not playing like a guy worth a 1st and a swap, but I’d still rather have our post-deadline roster than our pre-deadline roster.  The ball moves with White, even if sometimes that movement results with him bricking a wide-open shot.

Yeah, he defends, passes, penetrates, gets to the line, and generally hits his shots from inside the arc.  My guess is that if you tracked his movement, he'd be near the top on the team.  He's reportedly good in the locker room.

It's just his three point shot that is broken.  I suspect he's inside his own head a bit.

it's not just his 3 point shot that he's missing.  he's missing from everywhere.

Not everywhere.  52.2% from inside the arc.

That's actually better than Tatum, Smart, Schroder, Pritchard and Richardson.  White has sucked outside of 16 feet, but anything inside of that he's been good.

Inside the arc and inside of the paint should be separated. I believe White shoots 52% from inside of the paint, but inside of the Arc I would bet his percentages are poor since he doesn’t have a midrange shot, at all. 

[Sophomore]

He’s in a significant slump. I am still not too worried because this is well below his season and career averages - I expect him to be able to fix it. Frustrating, but probably going to go away. If it lasts into the playoffs it will be a problem.

[slamtheking]

White last night 0-8 overall, 0-5 from 3.  Down to 22.6% from 3 while with the Celtics.  He was having trouble hitting the rim.

Time to break out the sports phycologist or maybe a hypnotist.  Some form of intervention is needed.

He did everything else well.  Shooting is way off right now, but he’s still a better fit as a PG than Schröder.  I will agree he’s not playing like a guy worth a 1st and a swap, but I’d still rather have our post-deadline roster than our pre-deadline roster.  The ball moves with White, even if sometimes that movement results with him bricking a wide-open shot.

Yeah, he defends, passes, penetrates, gets to the line, and generally hits his shots from inside the arc.  My guess is that if you tracked his movement, he'd be near the top on the team.  He's reportedly good in the locker room.

It's just his three point shot that is broken.  I suspect he's inside his own head a bit.

it's not just his 3 point shot that he's missing.  he's missing from everywhere.

Not everywhere.  52.2% from inside the arc.

That's actually better than Tatum, Smart, Schroder, Pritchard and Richardson.  White has sucked outside of 16 feet, but anything inside of that he's been good.

Inside the arc and inside of the paint should be separated. I believe White shoots 52% from inside of the paint, but inside of the Arc I would bet his percentages are poor since he doesn’t have a midrange shot, at all.

agreed, but even in the paint he's struggling.  each game seems to be worse than the previous one.