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Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2022, 02:21:31 PM »

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As others above have brought up, THT has fallen off alot huh? I remember there being some buzz around him his early years. I have literally no idea what to think of him at this point.

I don't think the buzz was really warranted.  Anybody remember Rodrigue Beaubois with the Mavs?  It was the same thing:  he was a guy that Dallas kept valuing extremely highly...  until he was out of the league.

I think Horton-Tucker has some value.  He’s a good driver, and at least an average defender, if not above-average.  His shot is terrible, but he’s a solid free throw shooter, so maybe that can get better?  Again, he’s young.  His +/- and on-off aren’t terrible, right around his team’s average, and while he gets a bump to those when playing with LeBron, it’s not a huge bump and only half his minutes have been there.

As I said in the OP, it’d be a definite downgrade this season and serious draft consideration should be required, but it’s not crazy to imagine a gamble in THT paying off.

Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2022, 02:34:08 PM »

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I've heard others say THT would not be a name anyone knows if he didn't happen to play for the Lakers. That feels right.
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Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2022, 02:37:23 PM »

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As others above have brought up, THT has fallen off alot huh? I remember there being some buzz around him his early years. I have literally no idea what to think of him at this point.

I don't think the buzz was really warranted.  Anybody remember Rodrigue Beaubois with the Mavs?  It was the same thing:  he was a guy that Dallas kept valuing extremely highly...  until he was out of the league.

I think Horton-Tucker has some value.  He’s a good driver, and at least an average defender, if not above-average.  His shot is terrible, but he’s a solid free throw shooter, so maybe that can get better?  Again, he’s young.  His +/- and on-off aren’t terrible, right around his team’s average, and while he gets a bump to those when playing with LeBron, it’s not a huge bump and only half his minutes have been there.

As I said in the OP, it’d be a definite downgrade this season and serious draft consideration should be required, but it’s not crazy to imagine a gamble in THT paying off.

I'd do that if The Lakers threw in Monk. The money works and it makes us better.

RJrich for Monk and THT.

Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2022, 02:58:41 PM »

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As others above have brought up, THT has fallen off alot huh? I remember there being some buzz around him his early years. I have literally no idea what to think of him at this point.

I don't think the buzz was really warranted.  Anybody remember Rodrigue Beaubois with the Mavs?  It was the same thing:  he was a guy that Dallas kept valuing extremely highly...  until he was out of the league.

I think Horton-Tucker has some value.  He’s a good driver, and at least an average defender, if not above-average.  His shot is terrible, but he’s a solid free throw shooter, so maybe that can get better?  Again, he’s young.  His +/- and on-off aren’t terrible, right around his team’s average, and while he gets a bump to those when playing with LeBron, it’s not a huge bump and only half his minutes have been there.

As I said in the OP, it’d be a definite downgrade this season and serious draft consideration should be required, but it’s not crazy to imagine a gamble in THT paying off.

I'd do that if The Lakers threw in Monk. The money works and it makes us better.

RJrich for Monk and THT.

I am flabbergasted that you said Monk instead of Austin Reaves.

Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2022, 03:07:54 PM »

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As others above have brought up, THT has fallen off alot huh? I remember there being some buzz around him his early years. I have literally no idea what to think of him at this point.

I don't think the buzz was really warranted.  Anybody remember Rodrigue Beaubois with the Mavs?  It was the same thing:  he was a guy that Dallas kept valuing extremely highly...  until he was out of the league.

I think Horton-Tucker has some value.  He’s a good driver, and at least an average defender, if not above-average.  His shot is terrible, but he’s a solid free throw shooter, so maybe that can get better?  Again, he’s young.  His +/- and on-off aren’t terrible, right around his team’s average, and while he gets a bump to those when playing with LeBron, it’s not a huge bump and only half his minutes have been there.

As I said in the OP, it’d be a definite downgrade this season and serious draft consideration should be required, but it’s not crazy to imagine a gamble in THT paying off.

I'd do that if The Lakers threw in Monk. The money works and it makes us better.

RJrich for Monk and THT.

I am flabbergasted that you said Monk instead of Austin Reaves.

Monk would be a great fit here. We already have enough guys who can't get on the court.

Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2022, 03:14:43 PM »

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THT would be a solid pick up if he was on a rookie contract.  The problem with him is you're paying him $10m/year to be the player whose stats/impact are about the same you could expect from Romeo or Nesmith if they got the similar playing time.

I am also very hesitant to trade for players that play with elite play makers, like CP3, Jokic, or LeBron.  Players like THT look better with those elite players than they would on other teams. 

Look at Biyombo on PHO as a recent example.

Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2022, 03:17:00 PM »

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Don’t help the Lakers!! Anyone!!

This!!  The last thing I want to do is help the Lakers.  The only exception would be if we got a godfather situation -- an absolute steal.   Otherwise, I hate the idea of trading JRich, among the only C's who has been consistent this year.  I don't know if he helps put the Lakers in that much of a better situation in the West, but heaven forbid the C's give the Lakers banner 18 in a mid-season trade.   And further... I like JR and don't want to have to hate him, which is automatic the moment he dons purple and gold.

Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2022, 03:19:44 PM »

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THT is the perfect Celtics shooting guard potential acquisition: 27 FG3%.

Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2022, 03:52:46 PM »

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I confess I actually am pretty high on THT's potential. I'm not exactly sure what he will become. Is he a primary ball-handler shot creator? Not really. Is he a spotup shooter? Not really. Is he a lock-down defender? Not really.

He's one of those guys who doesn't excel at any one thing, but the trajectory of his play is that he could be good at most things.

He's always reminded me a bit of Aaron McKie in his body type and play style.

I think he has the potentially to be a very versatile defender and playmaker. The struggle is that Josh Richardson is already that. What percentage of Josh Richardson is THT? 80%? What's his ceiling? 120%? Is that worth it?

Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2022, 03:56:42 PM »

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Nunn, Doumbouya, Monk, 3 million cash, 1 future 2nd's

for

Richardson

and 2nd trade

Fernando into Lakers TPE

for

1 future 2nd


So combined trade

Nunn, Doumbouya, Monk, 3 million cash, 2 2nd's

for

Richardson, Fernando


Boston would have to believe that Nunn is going to come back at some point and be a solid back-up PG, but the trade gets them out of the tax, gets some cash to cut a player, and gets a nice shooter in Monk for the bench.
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Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2022, 04:04:07 PM »

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Nunn, Doumbouya, Monk, 3 million cash, 1 future 2nd's

for

Richardson

and 2nd trade

Fernando into Lakers TPE

for

1 future 2nd


So combined trade

Nunn, Doumbouya, Monk, 3 million cash, 2 2nd's

for

Richardson, Fernando


Boston would have to believe that Nunn is going to come back at some point and be a solid back-up PG, but the trade gets them out of the tax, gets some cash to cut a player, and gets a nice shooter in Monk for the bench.

Monk has become Lakers' third best player.  They aren't trading him for Richardson.

Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2022, 04:06:09 PM »

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Nunn, Doumbouya, Monk, 3 million cash, 1 future 2nd's

for

Richardson

and 2nd trade

Fernando into Lakers TPE

for

1 future 2nd


So combined trade

Nunn, Doumbouya, Monk, 3 million cash, 2 2nd's

for

Richardson, Fernando


Boston would have to believe that Nunn is going to come back at some point and be a solid back-up PG, but the trade gets them out of the tax, gets some cash to cut a player, and gets a nice shooter in Monk for the bench.

Monk has become Lakers' third best player.  They aren't trading him for Richardson.
They may very well not, but I don't really want THT.  I might still do something like that for Ellington or Bradley instead, but I'd push for Monk.  Probably would give up on the 2nd's if needed.
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Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2022, 04:17:43 PM »

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The Lakers aren't going to want to trade Monk.  He is part of their rotation. It is not worth it for us if we just get Horton-Tucker back, even with picks added.  Nunn would be a piece that would make sense for us but then we end up adding salary (which I don't think we are going to do).

Horton-Tucker and Nunn would be 2 nice pieces to add but I just don't see it at this time.


Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2022, 04:19:42 PM »

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With what, their assets are worse than ours.   Pass those proposed trades are dog doo.

It will be sweeter then LeBriod leaves them for CLE after next year with zero hope.

Re: Lakers targeting Richardson?
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2022, 06:04:34 PM »

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With what, their assets are worse than ours.   Pass those proposed trades are dog doo.

It will be sweeter then LeBriod leaves them for CLE after next year with zero hope.


That would be so LeBron.  ;D