Poll: Giddey and how many firsts for Brown

[KG Living Legend]

 I really want to add Jason Kidd to The Jays, but thought this was an interesting topic. I'd trade Brown for 5 firsts and Giddey right now. What say you.

[Muzzy66]

There is on way I would trade brown for a guy shooting 41% / 25% / 68%

eek

[Kiorrik]

I was looking for the number 27 in the poll answers but failed to locate it.

[Who]

Not sure whether Giddey is a future star or just another Ricky Rubio. A mature well-rounded young player with little upside. I wouldn't trade Jaylen for him.

It would take at least 5+ firsts to get my attention. That or to be convinced Giddey is indeed a future star. I don't watch OKC enough to know.

Those shooting and scoring numbers scare me off.

[slamtheking]

where's the option "there's not enough firsts to even have that discussion"?

Jaylen is far superior to Giddy and still improving.  there's absolutely no guaranteed that even if you had every first round pick from OKC that you could pick a player that turns out to be as good as Jaylen.  Never understood the fascination with giving up great talent to take a low percentage chance to get someone as good as what you're giving up.  it's like throwing $10 in those arcade claw games hoping to get a prize that might cost $12 but most are worth $1-$2 with a significant chance of coming up completely empty.

JKJB

[td450]

Giddey is 19. I understand that a bunch of 1sts is also in play here, but the last 7 1sts we had resulted in one quality starter but not a star (Robert Williams) and one marginal rotation player (Grant Williams). The others are either gone or only play episodically.

Giddey may end up being a great player but that's going back to square one, even if it works.

If you want to get a player, my guess is that Brown or Tatum will net you Dejounte Murray plus additional assets. Obviously Tatum would mean a bigger additional haul. If we were blowing this up, I'd rather offer Tatum for Murray, Keldon Johnson and next year's unprotected 1st from SA. I would guess they'd do it, and I think we'd be better off. I'm less impressed with Tatum than most, and think Brown still has upside as a scoring machine, especially with a real point and no Tatum.

[todd_days_41]

Giddey is 19. I understand that a bunch of 1sts is also in play here, but the last 7 1sts we had resulted in one quality starter but not a star (Robert Williams) and one marginal rotation player (Grant Williams). The others are either gone or only play episodically. Giddey may end up being a great player but that's going back to square one, even if it works.

This is well put, particularly the ugly reality of Cs drafting. I would point out that RWIII's star potential is still a work in progress.

If you want to get a player, my guess is that Brown or Tatum will net you Dejounte Murray plus additional assets.

This I disagree with, especially lumping Brown and Tatum in the same value boat.

If we were blowing this up, I'd rather offer Tatum for Murray, Keldon Johnson and next year's unprotected 1st from SA.

I'm not a Tatum homer, but i think this isn't close to his value. The Cs could get substantially more than this, IMO.

Brown is likely a little different story, but I still don't see Stevens doing such a deal. 

[footey]

I'd consider this as a framework if Giddey wasn't so young and prone to make a lot of mistakes before Tatum's time was up.  SGA and picks for Brown more intriguing.

[keevsnick]

How good are the first going to be? If I'm getting 7 firsts but all of them are 20-30 that doesn't really do much for me.

If I'm getting giddy, a guaranteed top four pick and other stuff.... Well actually i dont think i'm doing that either because if you want to build the next great team around Tatum then I don't think you cant wait 3-4 years on giddey/picks to develop.

That's the problem with trading Brown, there are trades you can do for picks and prospects that make sense strictly value wise. But those trades mean a rebuild, they mean probably also trading Tatum, they mean a step back. They just don't line up with the C's who want to win in the near future around Tatum.

[todd_days_41]

SGA and picks for Brown more intriguing.

Do you think the Thunder would trade us SGA for Brown, straight up?

[nickagneta]

#JKJB

That said, what is the obsession on this site with the desire to trade Brown? I simply do not get it.

Maybe it's just a few with this desire, maybe not. But until Brown comes out and says trade me or the Celtics make a trade including Brown that gets you Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Embiid, Durantetc, these type of players, Jaylen needs to stay on this team for a long time.

[liam]

Wait, we are getting the picks in this deal?


 

[Hoopvortex]

#JKJB

That said, what is the obsession on this site with the desire to trade Brown? I simply do not get it.

Maybe it's just a few with this desire, maybe not. But until Brown comes out and says trade me or the Celtics make a trade including Brown that gets you Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Embiid, Durantetc, these type of players, Jaylen needs to stay on this team for a long time.

Because it’s a Boston sports team?

[SHAQATTACK]

gMBS  loves him too much

[KG Living Legend]

#JKJB

That said, what is the obsession on this site with the desire to trade Brown? I simply do not get it.

Maybe it's just a few with this desire, maybe not. But until Brown comes out and says trade me or the Celtics make a trade including Brown that gets you Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Embiid, Durantetc, these type of players, Jaylen needs to stay on this team for a long time.

 I want to keep him.  It's a GMs job to explore any and all possibilities.  For instance I know you love Brown but if they are offering 6 good firsts plus Giddey I'm pretty sure you would take that deal am I right?
 
 Everyone has a price for the million dollar man.