Report: Cavs interested in Schroder; Mavs aren’t

[Celtics2021]

Dallas is exploring potential roster upgrades through this route, but sources say acquiring Boston’s Dennis Schröder — whose expiring $5.9 million salary would fit comfortably into the exception created by trading Josh Richardson to the Celtics in July — is not in the club’s plans.  – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

I don't find that too surprising.  Schroder would be a terrible fit with Doncic, imo.  My gut says they wind up with Jeremy Lamb, whom they could probably get for free.

[wdleehi]

Dallas is exploring potential roster upgrades through this route, but sources say acquiring Boston’s Dennis Schröder — whose expiring $5.9 million salary would fit comfortably into the exception created by trading Josh Richardson to the Celtics in July — is not in the club’s plans.  – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

I don't find that too surprising.  Schroder would be a terrible fit with Doncic, imo.  My gut says they wind up with Jeremy Lamb, whom they could probably get for free.

The better question,  what team puts that out?   Not Boston and likely not Dallas.    So I would guess a team that wants a lower price.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Bumping this thread in hope it comes true

[keevsnick]

Its going end up being Schroder to the cavs into the DPE they got for Rubio. The cavs will send back a minimum salary or two in order to avoid going into the tax, one of which probably gets routed to OKC with cash to clear the salary. The Celtics will get one of their good 2nd rounders (they have HOU and SAS 2nd's this year).

Celtics lose enough money to duck tax and get a 2nd rounder.
Cavs get a good player, avoid going over tax.

Makes a lot of sense for both sides.

[Rikibellevie]

Its going end up being Schroder to the cavs into the DPE they got for Rubio. The cavs will send back a minimum salary or two in order to avoid going into the tax, one of which probably gets routed to OKC with cash to clear the salary. The Celtics will get one of their good 2nd rounders (they have HOU and SAS 2nd's this year).

Celtics lose enough money to duck tax and get a 2nd rounder.
Cavs get a good player, avoid going over tax.

Makes a lot of sense for both sides.

Cavs don t fear me if we face them at 1st round PO. Neither Philly and even Bulls -if we have full roster-. So no way to give them for nothing à player that may beat our arse. This would be another great mistake from our board. + if he continues to be bad from the bench we may sign him at min for next year   

[todd_days_41]

Dallas is exploring potential roster upgrades through this route, but sources say acquiring Boston’s Dennis Schröder — whose expiring $5.9 million salary would fit comfortably into the exception created by trading Josh Richardson to the Celtics in July — is not in the club’s plans.  – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

I don't find that too surprising.  Schroder would be a terrible fit with Doncic, imo.  My gut says they wind up with Jeremy Lamb, whom they could probably get for free.

The better question,  what team puts that out?   Not Boston and likely not Dallas.    So I would guess a team that wants a lower price.

I wouldn't over-read it. Stein has long had ties inside the Dallas organization. It's not like their jockeying in some major capacity with other teams for Schroder, whose value based on play and contract is likely to be quite low. If some inside the Mavs told Stein they don't really care for Denis, then they prolly just.... don't.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Its going end up being Schroder to the cavs into the DPE they got for Rubio. The cavs will send back a minimum salary or two in order to avoid going into the tax, one of which probably gets routed to OKC with cash to clear the salary. The Celtics will get one of their good 2nd rounders (they have HOU and SAS 2nd's this year).

Celtics lose enough money to duck tax and get a 2nd rounder.
Cavs get a good player, avoid going over tax.

Makes a lot of sense for both sides.

Cavs don t fear me if we face them at 1st round PO. Neither Philly and even Bulls -if we have full roster-. So no way to give them for nothing à player that may beat our arse. This would be another great mistake from our board. + if he continues to be bad from the bench we may sign him at min for next year   

We might end up being better in the short run without Schroeder

And better in the long run with Rubio

[CFAN38]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265633/It-Would-Take-A-Major-Offer-To-Get-Jalen-Brunson-In-Trade


sounds like unless something crazy happens Brunson will be staying in Dallas at least past the trade deadline. Taking Brunson out of the trade pool should only help the Celtics market for Schroder.

[Celtics2021]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265633/It-Would-Take-A-Major-Offer-To-Get-Jalen-Brunson-In-Trade


sounds like unless something crazy happens Brunson will be staying in Dallas at least past the trade deadline. Taking Brunson out of the trade pool should only help the Celtics market for Schroder.

And Brunson not being traded increases the chances the Celtics could get him in free agency.

[wdleehi]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265633/It-Would-Take-A-Major-Offer-To-Get-Jalen-Brunson-In-Trade


sounds like unless something crazy happens Brunson will be staying in Dallas at least past the trade deadline. Taking Brunson out of the trade pool should only help the Celtics market for Schroder.

And Brunson not being traded increases the chances the Celtics could get him in free agency.

How?    The Celtics still don't have the cap room that is likely going to be needed (he is more then an MLE player)

[Celtics2021]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265633/It-Would-Take-A-Major-Offer-To-Get-Jalen-Brunson-In-Trade


sounds like unless something crazy happens Brunson will be staying in Dallas at least past the trade deadline. Taking Brunson out of the trade pool should only help the Celtics market for Schroder.

And Brunson not being traded increases the chances the Celtics could get him in free agency.

How?    The Celtics still don't have the cap room that is likely going to be needed (he is more then an MLE player)

S&T using the Fournier exception.  They can get up to 4 years, $74 million.  That’s got a decent chance of being the best offer he gets in free agency given how little cap room there is.

[Vermont Green]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265633/It-Would-Take-A-Major-Offer-To-Get-Jalen-Brunson-In-Trade


sounds like unless something crazy happens Brunson will be staying in Dallas at least past the trade deadline. Taking Brunson out of the trade pool should only help the Celtics market for Schroder.

And Brunson not being traded increases the chances the Celtics could get him in free agency.

How?    The Celtics still don't have the cap room that is likely going to be needed (he is more then an MLE player)

S&T using the Fournier exception.  They can get up to 4 years, $74 million.  That’s got a decent chance of being the best offer he gets in free agency given how little cap room there is.

If we do that, we end up hard capped.  That become our team.  Very little flexibility from that point forward.  I do not see Brunson as that key piece we need.  I would not want to lock ourselves up just to sign him.  But yes, it we want to be, we can be in the discussion.

[Celtics2021]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265633/It-Would-Take-A-Major-Offer-To-Get-Jalen-Brunson-In-Trade


sounds like unless something crazy happens Brunson will be staying in Dallas at least past the trade deadline. Taking Brunson out of the trade pool should only help the Celtics market for Schroder.

And Brunson not being traded increases the chances the Celtics could get him in free agency.

How?    The Celtics still don't have the cap room that is likely going to be needed (he is more then an MLE player)

S&T using the Fournier exception.  They can get up to 4 years, $74 million.  That’s got a decent chance of being the best offer he gets in free agency given how little cap room there is.

If we do that, we end up hard capped.  That become our team.  Very little flexibility from that point forward.  I do not see Brunson as that key piece we need.  I would not want to lock ourselves up just to sign him.  But yes, it we want to be, we can be in the discussion.

I think you're a little too frightened of the hard cap, personally.  It's several million above the tax line, which the C's are actively trying to get under this year.  The C's have shown no inclination to spend massively above the apron, and I can't think they will next year, either.

[Vermont Green]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265633/It-Would-Take-A-Major-Offer-To-Get-Jalen-Brunson-In-Trade


sounds like unless something crazy happens Brunson will be staying in Dallas at least past the trade deadline. Taking Brunson out of the trade pool should only help the Celtics market for Schroder.

And Brunson not being traded increases the chances the Celtics could get him in free agency.

How?    The Celtics still don't have the cap room that is likely going to be needed (he is more then an MLE player)

S&T using the Fournier exception.  They can get up to 4 years, $74 million.  That’s got a decent chance of being the best offer he gets in free agency given how little cap room there is.

If we do that, we end up hard capped.  That become our team.  Very little flexibility from that point forward.  I do not see Brunson as that key piece we need.  I would not want to lock ourselves up just to sign him.  But yes, it we want to be, we can be in the discussion.

I think you're a little too frightened of the hard cap, personally.  It's several million above the tax line, which the C's are actively trying to get under this year.  The C's have shown no inclination to spend massively above the apron, and I can't think they will next year, either.

I like flexibility, like we have right now.  If we put all our remaining eggs into the Brunson basket, that would be it.  At some point, we will need to commit to someone/contract.  It is not so much about being over the apron or not, it is whether or not we want the last big move to be for Brunson.  I am not that sold on Brunson.  I am not sure he is the one for that last big move.

[Celtics2021]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265633/It-Would-Take-A-Major-Offer-To-Get-Jalen-Brunson-In-Trade


sounds like unless something crazy happens Brunson will be staying in Dallas at least past the trade deadline. Taking Brunson out of the trade pool should only help the Celtics market for Schroder.

And Brunson not being traded increases the chances the Celtics could get him in free agency.

How?    The Celtics still don't have the cap room that is likely going to be needed (he is more then an MLE player)

S&T using the Fournier exception.  They can get up to 4 years, $74 million.  That’s got a decent chance of being the best offer he gets in free agency given how little cap room there is.

If we do that, we end up hard capped.  That become our team.  Very little flexibility from that point forward.  I do not see Brunson as that key piece we need.  I would not want to lock ourselves up just to sign him.  But yes, it we want to be, we can be in the discussion.

I think you're a little too frightened of the hard cap, personally.  It's several million above the tax line, which the C's are actively trying to get under this year.  The C's have shown no inclination to spend massively above the apron, and I can't think they will next year, either.

I like flexibility, like we have right now.  If we put all our remaining eggs into the Brunson basket, that would be it.  At some point, we will need to commit to someone/contract.  It is not so much about being over the apron or not, it is whether or not we want the last big move to be for Brunson.  I am not that sold on Brunson.  I am not sure he is the one for that last big move.

It would only be the last big move for a season, and even then, other big moves could happen, but yes, the salary matching would be tighter.

I think Brunson is the best way we could use the TPE, personally, so I hope we’re his biggest offer in the summer.  The draft compensation to acquire him would be minimal, preserving picks to trade in the future.