Just Keep Jaylen Brown (JKJB) or Just Trade Jaylen Brown (JTJB)?

[Kiorrik]

Poll updated and reset with the third requested option.

The obvious answer is the third option, just like it is with every single player in the NBA.

Agree. Unfortunately, there are some JKJB supporters who would pass over ideal teammates for Tatum and rare opportunities in order to keep Brown (I’m still PO’d about not sending Brown for Kawhi because it likely would have generated at least one title for us, perhaps more if Kawhi falls in love with Boston like PP and KG did). They act like he’s Scottie Pippen or something. Grossly overrated by them.

I don’t think nick or Kio are absolutists.  They just want a trade that clearly makes us better.  Rather than take a big, or even moderate, risk, they prefer the young all-star.

Take something like this:

Brown + filler for Murray, Poeltl, McDermott

Some folks would see that as a steal for the Celts, others for the Spurs.  It’s a beauty in the eye of the beholder trade.  A JKJB might be inclined to quickly turn it down; JTJB supporters reflexively say yes.  It’s all about the skepticism you apply to the trade coming in.

Exactly @ "not absolutists".

Sick of saying that though and voted #JKJB because it's getting easier to just accept that this feller can only think in absolutes.

Just over it.

Thanks for defending us man <3

[nickagneta]

So you cleared the poll that was showing the trade JB crowd was the vocal minority by quite a bit? How convenient.

[Sophomore]

I’m really close to JKJB, but also a pretty big fan of Murray, so that trade idea made me really think. A concern I have with that trade is that Murray can’t shoot from outside. So I would really want to see a shooter coming to Boston in that trade or some other path to more shooting.

I wonder if they would take Smart, a first round pick (which will probably be mid-first round) and one other player - their choice of Langford, Grant, or Nesmith. It probably does not work - trading three dimes for a quarter, and players on different timelines. Murray is a leader and a closer.

[blink]

So you cleared the poll that was showing the trade JB crowd was the vocal minority by quite a bit? How convenient.

I was just going to say the same exact thing.  So if you are going to reset the poll, let everyone vote again.
the voting was clearly in the keep jaylen catagory.

[GreenlyGreeny]

So you cleared the poll that was showing the trade JB crowd was the vocal minority by quite a bit? How convenient.

Just reset it based on what folks were demanding, basically a third choice of qualifying JTJB. Don’t recall the tally at the time.

52-48% among 21 voters seems pretty close to me. Folks have more time and can change their votes.

[Kiorrik]

So you cleared the poll that was showing the trade JB crowd was the vocal minority by quite a bit? How convenient.

Just reset it based on what folks were demanding, basically a third choice of qualifying JTJB. Don’t recall the tally at the time.

52-48% among 21 voters seems pretty close to me. Folks have more time and can change their votes.

Adding a third option and then limping the results back together like you're just gonna ignore people.

That's some insane level of self deceit.

Stop fooling yourself.

[nickagneta]

The last vote I saw before reset was 16-5. It could have gotten worse than that.

You could have just added the new option without resetting but that wouldn't have helped your quest to show people feel the same way about trading Jaylen as you do

I stand by my comment. Those concocting ridiculous theories as to why Jaylen HAS to be traded are a very small, very loud minority. The original poll results showed that.

[blink]

So you cleared the poll that was showing the trade JB crowd was the vocal minority by quite a bit? How convenient.

Just reset it based on what folks were demanding, basically a third choice of qualifying JTJB. Don’t recall the tally at the time.

52-48% among 21 voters seems pretty close to me. Folks have more time and can change their votes.

if you are going to reset it, let everyone vote then.  I voted in the original which was overwhelmingly to not trade Brown.
You reset the poll and now I can't vote in the new one, and I am probably not the only one.  It is just idiotic.

[nickagneta]

Greenly, just so you know, #JKJB was never and will never be an absolutism.

#JKJB was simply my response to the ludicrous trade proposals, the off the wall methodologies for needing to trade Jaylen, the absolutely absurd realities people dreamt up about Jaylen being hated or had no respect in the locker room, the pathetic hatred toward Jaylen for wanting people like himself to be treated equally in the world and for the unreal downplaying of his skills on the court

I got sick of defending Jaylen from this raft of pure negativity. Thread after thread after thread of horrid trade proposals or posts that attacked Jaylen as a man and Celtic. It just got easier to dismiss them with #JKJB Just Keep Jaylen Brown. Because in the long run, it will be worth it.

I stand by that. Would I trade Jaylen? Yup! But for an upgrade. For a player that makes the Celtics clearly, with little doubt, a better team. But I will absolutely throw out #JKJB for every trade that trades our Jaylen Brown dollar bill for 4 quarters, and that is 99.9% of the trade proposals I see on this site.

If you're trading away a 25 year old All-Star averaging over 23 PPG making less than $25 million per year, that's one of the better 2 way wings in the game, a player that has a history of just getting better and better every year and who raises his game even higher in the playoffs, you best be getting someone special back in return.

And that's all I have to say about that!

[todd_days_41]

Greenly, just so you know, #JKJB was never and will never be an absolutism.

#JKJB was simply my response to the ludicrous trade proposals, the off the wall methodologies for needing to trade Jaylen, the absolutely absurd realities people dreamt up about Jaylen being hated or had no respect in the locker room, the pathetic hatred toward Jaylen for wanting people like himself to be treated equally in the world and for the unreal downplaying of his skills on the court

I got sick of defending Jaylen from this raft of pure negativity. Thread after thread after thread of horrid trade proposals or posts that attacked Jaylen as a man and Celtic. It just got easier to dismiss them with #JKJB Just Keep Jaylen Brown. Because in the long run, it will be worth it.

I stand by that. Would I trade Jaylen? Yup! But for an upgrade. For a player that makes the Celtics clearly, with little doubt, a better team. But I will absolutely throw out #JKJB for every trade that trades our Jaylen Brown dollar bill for 4 quarters, and that is 99.9% of the trade proposals I see on this site.

If you're trading away a 25 year old All-Star averaging over 23 PPG, that's one of the better 2 way wings in the game, a player that has a history of just getting better and better every year and who raises his game even higher in the playoffs, you best be getting someone special back in return.

And that's all I have to say about that!

…. yet you are an absolutist about Brown, like BBallTim was about Rondo.

Let’s hope the Cs are smarter with Brown than they were with Rajon. Because even tho they “won” that trade, they didn’t end up with much.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Greenly, just so you know, #JKJB was never and will never be an absolutism.

#JKJB was simply my response to the ludicrous trade proposals, the off the wall methodologies for needing to trade Jaylen, the absolutely absurd realities people dreamt up about Jaylen being hated or had no respect in the locker room, the pathetic hatred toward Jaylen for wanting people like himself to be treated equally in the world and for the unreal downplaying of his skills on the court

I got sick of defending Jaylen from this raft of pure negativity. Thread after thread after thread of horrid trade proposals or posts that attacked Jaylen as a man and Celtic. It just got easier to dismiss them with #JKJB Just Keep Jaylen Brown. Because in the long run, it will be worth it.

I stand by that. Would I trade Jaylen? Yup! But for an upgrade. For a player that makes the Celtics clearly, with little doubt, a better team. But I will absolutely throw out #JKJB for every trade that trades our Jaylen Brown dollar bill for 4 quarters, and that is 99.9% of the trade proposals I see on this site.

If you're trading away a 25 year old All-Star averaging over 23 PPG, that's one of the better 2 way wings in the game, a player that has a history of just getting better and better every year and who raises his game even higher in the playoffs, you best be getting someone special back in return.

And that's all I have to say about that!

…. yet you are an absolutist about Brown, like BBallTim was about Rondo.

Let’s hope the Cs are smarter with Brown than they were with Rajon. Because even tho they “won” that trade, they didn’t end up with much.

Lol wait is this an alt of Larbrd33

[nickagneta]

Greenly, just so you know, #JKJB was never and will never be an absolutism.

#JKJB was simply my response to the ludicrous trade proposals, the off the wall methodologies for needing to trade Jaylen, the absolutely absurd realities people dreamt up about Jaylen being hated or had no respect in the locker room, the pathetic hatred toward Jaylen for wanting people like himself to be treated equally in the world and for the unreal downplaying of his skills on the court

I got sick of defending Jaylen from this raft of pure negativity. Thread after thread after thread of horrid trade proposals or posts that attacked Jaylen as a man and Celtic. It just got easier to dismiss them with #JKJB Just Keep Jaylen Brown. Because in the long run, it will be worth it.

I stand by that. Would I trade Jaylen? Yup! But for an upgrade. For a player that makes the Celtics clearly, with little doubt, a better team. But I will absolutely throw out #JKJB for every trade that trades our Jaylen Brown dollar bill for 4 quarters, and that is 99.9% of the trade proposals I see on this site.

If you're trading away a 25 year old All-Star averaging over 23 PPG, that's one of the better 2 way wings in the game, a player that has a history of just getting better and better every year and who raises his game even higher in the playoffs, you best be getting someone special back in return.

And that's all I have to say about that!

…. yet you are an absolutist about Brown, like BBallTim was about Rondo.

I have said on several occasions that if the trade was for a Doncic, Steph, Lebron, Giannis, Durant, Jokic, or Davis, I would drive Jaylen to the airport myself. For players like Trae, Jah, KAT, Kawhi, Lillard, LaVine, Mitchell, Zion, Harden, George, I probably make a lot of those trades depending on some other stuff, but I do think that with a lot of those guys it a sideway move due to contracts, injuries and position played. Then there is a bunch super young guys that if you are blowing it up and moving on from both Jays that I would trade Jaylen for.

Most everyone else, nope.

Brad signed Smart, Timelord and Richardson to contracts that add up to some significant salary. Use those guys to trade for that third guy to add to the Jays. That's what those contracts are there for. You keep the Jays because at 23 and 25, they aren't the problem. They are part of the solution.

[nickagneta]

Greenly, just so you know, #JKJB was never and will never be an absolutism.

#JKJB was simply my response to the ludicrous trade proposals, the off the wall methodologies for needing to trade Jaylen, the absolutely absurd realities people dreamt up about Jaylen being hated or had no respect in the locker room, the pathetic hatred toward Jaylen for wanting people like himself to be treated equally in the world and for the unreal downplaying of his skills on the court

I got sick of defending Jaylen from this raft of pure negativity. Thread after thread after thread of horrid trade proposals or posts that attacked Jaylen as a man and Celtic. It just got easier to dismiss them with #JKJB Just Keep Jaylen Brown. Because in the long run, it will be worth it.

I stand by that. Would I trade Jaylen? Yup! But for an upgrade. For a player that makes the Celtics clearly, with little doubt, a better team. But I will absolutely throw out #JKJB for every trade that trades our Jaylen Brown dollar bill for 4 quarters, and that is 99.9% of the trade proposals I see on this site.

If you're trading away a 25 year old All-Star averaging over 23 PPG, that's one of the better 2 way wings in the game, a player that has a history of just getting better and better every year and who raises his game even higher in the playoffs, you best be getting someone special back in return.

And that's all I have to say about that!

…. yet you are an absolutist about Brown, like BBallTim was about Rondo.

Let’s hope the Cs are smarter with Brown than they were with Rajon. Because even tho they “won” that trade, they didn’t end up with much.

Lol wait is this an alt of Larbrd33

todd could be Larbrd33 himself.

For a guy that started posting in 2020 to be so knowledgeable about BBallTim's love for Rondo tells me this isn't todd's first username.

I wonder who he used to be?

[Kiorrik]

Greenly, just so you know, #JKJB was never and will never be an absolutism.

#JKJB was simply my response to the ludicrous trade proposals, the off the wall methodologies for needing to trade Jaylen, the absolutely absurd realities people dreamt up about Jaylen being hated or had no respect in the locker room, the pathetic hatred toward Jaylen for wanting people like himself to be treated equally in the world and for the unreal downplaying of his skills on the court

I got sick of defending Jaylen from this raft of pure negativity. Thread after thread after thread of horrid trade proposals or posts that attacked Jaylen as a man and Celtic. It just got easier to dismiss them with #JKJB Just Keep Jaylen Brown. Because in the long run, it will be worth it.

I stand by that. Would I trade Jaylen? Yup! But for an upgrade. For a player that makes the Celtics clearly, with little doubt, a better team. But I will absolutely throw out #JKJB for every trade that trades our Jaylen Brown dollar bill for 4 quarters, and that is 99.9% of the trade proposals I see on this site.

If you're trading away a 25 year old All-Star averaging over 23 PPG, that's one of the better 2 way wings in the game, a player that has a history of just getting better and better every year and who raises his game even higher in the playoffs, you best be getting someone special back in return.

And that's all I have to say about that!

…. yet you are an absolutist about Brown, like BBallTim was about Rondo.

Let’s hope the Cs are smarter with Brown than they were with Rajon. Because even tho they “won” that trade, they didn’t end up with much.

The two highlighted lines are why I give up hope for some people.

You can have an opinion, and people will literally tell you to your face that's not your opinion.

That's not debate.

That's how 2 year olds argue.

[todd_days_41]

Greenly, just so you know, #JKJB was never and will never be an absolutism.

#JKJB was simply my response to the ludicrous trade proposals, the off the wall methodologies for needing to trade Jaylen, the absolutely absurd realities people dreamt up about Jaylen being hated or had no respect in the locker room, the pathetic hatred toward Jaylen for wanting people like himself to be treated equally in the world and for the unreal downplaying of his skills on the court

I got sick of defending Jaylen from this raft of pure negativity. Thread after thread after thread of horrid trade proposals or posts that attacked Jaylen as a man and Celtic. It just got easier to dismiss them with #JKJB Just Keep Jaylen Brown. Because in the long run, it will be worth it.

I stand by that. Would I trade Jaylen? Yup! But for an upgrade. For a player that makes the Celtics clearly, with little doubt, a better team. But I will absolutely throw out #JKJB for every trade that trades our Jaylen Brown dollar bill for 4 quarters, and that is 99.9% of the trade proposals I see on this site.

If you're trading away a 25 year old All-Star averaging over 23 PPG, that's one of the better 2 way wings in the game, a player that has a history of just getting better and better every year and who raises his game even higher in the playoffs, you best be getting someone special back in return.

And that's all I have to say about that!

…. yet you are an absolutist about Brown, like BBallTim was about Rondo.

Let’s hope the Cs are smarter with Brown than they were with Rajon. Because even tho they “won” that trade, they didn’t end up with much.

The two highlighted lines are why I give up hope for some people.

You can have an opinion, and people will literally tell you to your face that's not your opinion.

That's not debate.

That's how 2 year olds argue.

So everyone is circumspect? What people tell you isn’t always how they demonstrate themselves. I’m simply calling it out.