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Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2021, 01:45:52 PM »

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Smart has obviously had an awful start to the year, but the hate for him is overblown. If we didn’t have Smart, we would probably be viewed as one of the most Charmin soft teams in the league.

I don’t think most people are judging him on an eight game sample. Last year was an abomination from him, and he’s had plenty of dumb behavior in the past. This year, it seems like he has decided to bundle all of his negatives together, but really it was last year that made him lose his luster.
Not to mention things like missing a flight, going postal on coaches and players after he shot the team out of a win, punching a picture causing s laceration bad enough to keep him out for weeks during the playoffs and I am sure there are things I am forgetting.

I am done with Smart's act. I loved his defensive game and effort for years until his defense fell off after that first 1st team All-Defense honor. His defense hasn't been the same since. And he has been shooting 38% from the field, 33% from three with a TS% of 52% on 10 FGA per game since that time while his defense has gotten progressively worse.

I wouldn't have extended him. I would have moved him last off-season or sometime before the trade deadline this season.

Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2021, 06:49:48 PM »

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Smart has obviously had an awful start to the year, but the hate for him is overblown. If we didn’t have Smart, we would probably be viewed as one of the most Charmin soft teams in the league.

I don’t think most people are judging him on an eight game sample. Last year was an abomination from him, and he’s had plenty of dumb behavior in the past. This year, it seems like he has decided to bundle all of his negatives together, but really it was last year that made him lose his luster.

While I agree he wasn’t “right” last year either, it wasn’t a statistical abomination. He had solid assist, rebound, steal numbers.

Overall, the guy has been a top 6 or higher contributor (I’m estimating, his minutes have been 27+ every year) on every team since he was drafted with all 7 of those teams making the playoffs. There’s a reason for that. People act like he’s trash, and I think that is short-sighted and foolish. He’s far from a perfect player, but if every player on the Celtics consistently played as hard as he does, I think we’d be very happy with the product.

Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2021, 08:00:52 PM »

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Smart has obviously had an awful start to the year, but the hate for him is overblown. If we didn’t have Smart, we would probably be viewed as one of the most Charmin soft teams in the league.

I don’t think most people are judging him on an eight game sample. Last year was an abomination from him, and he’s had plenty of dumb behavior in the past. This year, it seems like he has decided to bundle all of his negatives together, but really it was last year that made him lose his luster.

While I agree he wasn’t “right” last year either, it wasn’t a statistical abomination. He had solid assist, rebound, steal numbers.

Overall, the guy has been a top 6 or higher contributor (I’m estimating, his minutes have been 27+ every year) on every team since he was drafted with all 7 of those teams making the playoffs. There’s a reason for that. People act like he’s trash, and I think that is short-sighted and foolish. He’s far from a perfect player, but if every player on the Celtics consistently played as hard as he does, I think we’d be very happy with the product.

Is a top-6 contributor what we need from Smart?  Is it what he’s paid to be?

And, I guess it’s the consistency with which he plays hard these days that bothers me.


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Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2021, 11:03:45 PM »

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Love: Tatum. Gets a ton of crap from the fan base, but he's by far our best overall player and our most talented player. He's not emotive and doesn't wear his heart on his sleeve, and I don't think some Boston fans know what to do with that.

Like: Nesmith. Kid has real potential to be a great 3&D guy just has to harness all that wild energy.

Parker. I'm just rooting for the guy after all the injuries. He still has 6th man of the year potential imo.

Schroeder. He's really grown on me. Feisty defender and competitor.

That's it. Everyone else can go.
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Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2021, 11:05:25 PM »

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Love: Tatum. Gets a ton of crap from the fan base, but he's by far our best overall player and our most talented player. He's not emotive and doesn't wear his heart on his sleeve, and I don't think some Boston fans know what to do with that.

Like: Nesmith. Kid has real potential to be a great 3&D guy just has to harness all that wild energy.

Parker. I'm just rooting for the guy after all the injuries. He still has 6th man of the year potential imo.

Schroeder. He's really grown on me. Feisty defender and competitor.

That's it. Everyone else can go.

lol…..Brown?

Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2021, 11:14:54 PM »

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Love: Tatum. Gets a ton of crap from the fan base, but he's by far our best overall player and our most talented player. He's not emotive and doesn't wear his heart on his sleeve, and I don't think some Boston fans know what to do with that.

Like: Nesmith. Kid has real potential to be a great 3&D guy just has to harness all that wild energy.

Parker. I'm just rooting for the guy after all the injuries. He still has 6th man of the year potential imo.

Schroeder. He's really grown on me. Feisty defender and competitor.

That's it. Everyone else can go.

lol…..Brown?

I said what I said.
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Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2021, 11:19:06 PM »

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Really Like:  Tatum, Brown, Rob Williams, Schroder, Horford
Like:  J Rich, Smart, Langford
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Meh: G Williams, Jabari Parker
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Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2021, 11:21:46 PM »

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Love: Tatum. Gets a ton of crap from the fan base, but he's by far our best overall player and our most talented player. He's not emotive and doesn't wear his heart on his sleeve, and I don't think some Boston fans know what to do with that.

Like: Nesmith. Kid has real potential to be a great 3&D guy just has to harness all that wild energy.

Parker. I'm just rooting for the guy after all the injuries. He still has 6th man of the year potential imo.

Schroeder. He's really grown on me. Feisty defender and competitor.

That's it. Everyone else can go.

lol…..Brown?

I said what I said.

You sure did, just checking.

Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2021, 11:25:57 PM »

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This is a combination between on and off-court. Just as overall humans & Celtics;

Brown - 11/10
Horford - 10/10
Smart - 9/10
Schroder - 8/10
Tatum - 7/10*

R. Williams - 9/10
Kanter - 9/10
G. Williams - 7/10
Parker - 7/10
Pritchard - 8/10
Langford - 6/10
Nesmith - 6/10

Richardson - n/a
Hernangomez - n/a
Fernando - n/a

n/a's cuz I've not fully formed opinions yet :D

* Tatum's has an asterisk because these last few games, he's really upped his ball-sharing game. And if he keeps that up, he'll easily be 8/10, maybe a 9.

Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2021, 05:26:54 AM »

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Would have to revise my ratings now - full blown hatred for Smart. Will party the day he is no longer a Celtic
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Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2021, 08:20:43 AM »

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Would have to revise my ratings now - full blown hatred for Smart. Will party the day he is no longer a Celtic


“Smart”.  He’s got to be the dumbest starter in the NBA.


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Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2021, 03:22:46 PM »

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Would have to revise my ratings now - full blown hatred for Smart. Will party the day he is no longer a Celtic


“Smart”.  He’s got to be the dumbest starter in the NBA.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone who is highly paid and who gets consistently high minutes be this stupid on the court. Javale McGee had a run of being horrible dumb on-court, but that was almost the expectation
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2021, 03:31:11 PM »

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Would have to revise my ratings now - full blown hatred for Smart. Will party the day he is no longer a Celtic


“Smart”.  He’s got to be the dumbest starter in the NBA.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone who is highly paid and who gets consistently high minutes be this stupid on the court. Javale McGee had a run of being horrible dumb on-court, but that was almost the expectation

JR Smith easily ranks #1 in this category

Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2021, 03:37:33 PM »

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Would have to revise my ratings now - full blown hatred for Smart. Will party the day he is no longer a Celtic


“Smart”.  He’s got to be the dumbest starter in the NBA.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone who is highly paid and who gets consistently high minutes be this stupid on the court. Javale McGee had a run of being horrible dumb on-court, but that was almost the expectation

JR Smith easily ranks #1 in this category
I thought of him, but I don't think he's very far ahead of Smart in this regard. He made that monster blunder in the Finals, obviously. But he was also a 6MOTY and a 2 time champion. He was a good player in New York and Denver.

He also only got $10+ million in three seasons of his career. In fact, he was mostly paid under $7m a season. Much less than Smart.
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Rate Our Players (Like / Dislike)
« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2021, 07:22:43 PM »

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After last nights game , Marcus popularity rating might have taken a hit  ;D