Bench Smart / Marcus Calls Out The Jays

[GreenlyGreeny]

Never understood Brad's love affair with him I would start Pritchard, not losing that Cleveland game and ending up with Smart instead of Gordan set the franchise back, in hindsight they should of taken Randle

I would bet money Pritchard would get eaten alive as a starter.....

I remember some years back during our rebuild, when we had guys like Keeyon Dooling, Marquese Daniels and Mikael Pietrus starting, with Avery Bradley as our "#1 guy". 

That team was outmatched on talent almost every time they stepped on the court, but you know what?  I was kinda OK with it because no matter what I knew that every single night every one of those guys would go out there on the court and they would leave absolutely everything they had on the floor.  And even though they would be outmatched on talent, they won games simply by playing as a team and just out-hustling every team they came up against, and I respected the crap out of that.

We might have glorious young talents like Brown and Tatum, but there hasn't been a single game ive seen this year (and not many last year) where I watched this team play and felt even the slightest semblance of pride that I felt when I watched those old teams full of scrubs go out there and compete every night.

So at this point I honestly don't care if Pritchard gets outplayed every night, and if every opponent scores 30 on him.  If he goes out there and plays with maximum effort then I'll take it. 

I'm sick and tired of watching these prissy, entitled Gen Z prima-donnas go out there acting like merely being present and putting on their jersey is enough to justify their multi million dollar paychecks...like hard work, sacrifice and dedication are merely 'inconveniences'.

Maybe it's time to find another team to cheer on then if you feel such disdain and disgust not only about our players but what you think they are as people too.

I don't know. I like Brown, Tatum, Horford, Timelord, Pritchard, Nesmith and Schroder. I sure as heck like them better as players like Bradley, Daniels, Puetrus and Fooling, that's for sure. I think they will turn things around and be a helluva team. And since I know none of them, I'm not going to make judgments of them as people.

I didn't say a thing about Horford, Timelord, Pritchard, Nesmith or Schroeder.  I have no problem with any of those guys. 

I don't have an issue with the talent level of Tatum or Brown either. 

What I do have a problem with is that is seems very clear Tatum and Brown have allowed their egos to grow to the point where their personal egos seem to far exceed their contributions to the win column.  They both play far too much hero ball, show far too little effort on the defensive end (despite demonstrating in the past that both are very capable defensively when they want to be) and both have shown seriously questionable energy / attitude when on the court. 

Tatum at times has looked like he's just going through the motions, while Brown's energy has been so inconsistent that his own coach had to publicly call him out for it. 

I wouldnt be so concerned about any of this if it was unique to this season - I'd assume that it will just work itself out.  But we saw the same thing all of last year.  Kemba, Danny and Brad were made the scapegoats for that, but Kemba and Danny are gone now, Brad is no longer coach, we swapped half the team out for pure energy guys, and still nothing at all has changed so far.

It's not that the team is losing, it's the way they have been losing.  Routinely getting blown out by 15+ points bu bottom of the barrel lottery teams.
 Building 20 points leads only to blow them and lose by 15.  Take one look at the reactions from Horford and the coach and it's not hard to see that they feel the very same frustrations.  They both seem to be wondering the same thing that I've been wondering for over a year now - why is effort (of all things) the thing that's in question here?  This is the Celtics.  It's a franchise that's built a historical reputation for being a team of toughness, hustle and resilience.  What we're seeing lately - this is not Celtics basketball.

Again making assumptions about them as people. Saying their egos are affecting their play. You do not know them and in no interview I have even seen has either shown massive egos. You see a style of play and project your feeling upon them as people.

The Jays are now forced to carry this team offensively, like last year because there is no longer an IT, Kyrie, Hayward and healthy Kemba to help support them. It definitely affects the energy they have to expend on defense

And both guys have had Covid and the recovery affected their play. Ime mentioned Brown's inconsistency but knew he was working on his stamina due to Covid with the medical staff. That was idiotic by the new coach.
 
I could go on about recency bias but I won't. It's not worth it. You don't like the Jays and until they bring home a title, you probably never will.

Really sick of the COVID excuse in particular because that’s an issue for everyone, not just our team although for whatever reason we’ve had the most issues with it by far (at a certain point it begs the question of responsibility levels?). Probably valid with Smart since he got it before vaccines were available, but he missed a little time and came back at 100% (or did he because his defense has not been the same since?). Tatum was relatively early in the roll-out of the vaccines but believe they were still available to him at the time. There is almost no way a breakthrough case for a professional athlete like JB in his mid-20s would have these lingering issues like this, so it’s quite clear the guy probably did not get vaccinated, so really do not want to hear that excuse for JB in particular (and if he never fully overcomes the long-haul symptoms, let it be a clear message to unvaccinated fans?)

Come to think of it, cannot think of another trio (or even duo) that all got COVID where the two best players of the trio all obviously had lingering health issues after the infection. It’s not even clear JT is fully recovered at this point, or if he’s just plain done caring at times. What’s the deal with our team? Are we possibly down the tubes because of a duo that chose not to vaccinate? Even before COVID, though, it was clear the chemistry/camaraderie was probably not there for these three, and it’s hard to win it all without those intangibles.

Just a very ignorant post. Covid affects everyone differently. My aunt in her late 50s with comorbidities survived, my friend whos 28 with no comorbidity died. Sick and tired of judgemental idiotic posts like this im sorry.

Yes, COVID is extremely deadly and affects everyone differently with long-term symptoms that may last for the rest of one’s life for all we know, which is precisely why medical professionals strongly recommend getting the vaccine.

The point was that if JT and JB had gotten vaccinated, perhaps COVID would have been less of an issue for us? It’s definitely an issue for everybody, and perhaps more of an issue for people who refuse to get vaccinated? Evidence points towards neither one being vaccinated when they acquired COVID, particularly with JB as who has heard of a definitive breakthrough case of a professional athletes in his mid-20s who had lingering issues? Great demonstration of how debilitating the current dominant strain is…

Can anybody name another duo in the NBA who had lingering issues after getting COVID during the Delta phase? If not, maybe because all the others have at least one of the two in the duo who became vaccinated? Just a thought.

[Celtics4ever]

The point was that if JT and JB had gotten vaccinated, perhaps COVID would have been less of an issue for us? It’s definitely an issue for everybody, and perhaps more of an issue for people who refuse to get vaccinated? Evidence points towards neither one being vaccinated when they acquired COVID, particularly with JB as who has heard of a definitive breakthrough case of a professional athletes in his mid-20s who had lingering issues? Great demonstration of how debilitating the current dominant strain is…

Really what are you basing this on?

About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated, according to new data published Friday by the CDC.

The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people,

The data published Friday was based on 469 cases of Covid associated with multiple summer events and large public gatherings held in July in Barnstable County, Massachusetts, which encompasses Cape Cod and is just outside Martha’s Vineyard. The events were held in Provincetown, according to NBC News. Approximately three-quarters, or 74%, of the cases occurred in fully vaccinated people who had completed a two-dose course of the mRNA vaccines or received a single shot of Johnson & Johnson’s.

Overall, 274 vaccinated patients with a breakthrough infection were symptomatic, according to the CDC. The most common side effects were cough, headache, sore throat, muscle pain and fever. Among five Covid patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated, according to the agency. No deaths were reported.

Testing identified the delta variant in 90% of specimens from 133 patients.

While numerous studies have shown that the vaccines don’t work as well against the delta variant as they did against other strains, health officials say they are still highly effective, especially in protecting against severe illness and death. Roughly 97% of new hospitalizations and 99.5% of deaths in the U.S. are among unvaccinated individuals, U.S. health officials repeated this week.

The CDC also said the data has limitations. The agency noted that as population-level vaccination coverage increases, vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger proportion of Covid cases

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

Just keep in mind the original vaccine, was made for Alpha Variant.  I have read they tweaked the kid on but not sure about the adult one.

    Come to think of it, cannot think of another trio (or even duo) that all got COVID where the two best players of the trio all obviously had lingering health issues after the infection. It’s not even clear JT is fully recovered at this point, or if he’s just plain done caring at times. What’s the deal with our team? Are we possibly down the tubes because of a duo that chose not to vaccinate? Even before COVID, though, it was clear the chemistry/camaraderie was probably not there for these three, and it’s hard to win it all without those intangibles.

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2021/3/3/22292213/athletes-covid-recovery-stories-jayson-tatum-mo-bamba-asia-durr

It is not just the J's

[nickagneta]

Never understood Brad's love affair with him I would start Pritchard, not losing that Cleveland game and ending up with Smart instead of Gordan set the franchise back, in hindsight they should of taken Randle

I would bet money Pritchard would get eaten alive as a starter.....

I remember some years back during our rebuild, when we had guys like Keeyon Dooling, Marquese Daniels and Mikael Pietrus starting, with Avery Bradley as our "#1 guy". 

That team was outmatched on talent almost every time they stepped on the court, but you know what?  I was kinda OK with it because no matter what I knew that every single night every one of those guys would go out there on the court and they would leave absolutely everything they had on the floor.  And even though they would be outmatched on talent, they won games simply by playing as a team and just out-hustling every team they came up against, and I respected the crap out of that.

We might have glorious young talents like Brown and Tatum, but there hasn't been a single game ive seen this year (and not many last year) where I watched this team play and felt even the slightest semblance of pride that I felt when I watched those old teams full of scrubs go out there and compete every night.

So at this point I honestly don't care if Pritchard gets outplayed every night, and if every opponent scores 30 on him.  If he goes out there and plays with maximum effort then I'll take it. 

I'm sick and tired of watching these prissy, entitled Gen Z prima-donnas go out there acting like merely being present and putting on their jersey is enough to justify their multi million dollar paychecks...like hard work, sacrifice and dedication are merely 'inconveniences'.

Maybe it's time to find another team to cheer on then if you feel such disdain and disgust not only about our players but what you think they are as people too.

I don't know. I like Brown, Tatum, Horford, Timelord, Pritchard, Nesmith and Schroder. I sure as heck like them better as players like Bradley, Daniels, Puetrus and Fooling, that's for sure. I think they will turn things around and be a helluva team. And since I know none of them, I'm not going to make judgments of them as people.

I didn't say a thing about Horford, Timelord, Pritchard, Nesmith or Schroeder.  I have no problem with any of those guys. 

I don't have an issue with the talent level of Tatum or Brown either. 

What I do have a problem with is that is seems very clear Tatum and Brown have allowed their egos to grow to the point where their personal egos seem to far exceed their contributions to the win column.  They both play far too much hero ball, show far too little effort on the defensive end (despite demonstrating in the past that both are very capable defensively when they want to be) and both have shown seriously questionable energy / attitude when on the court. 

Tatum at times has looked like he's just going through the motions, while Brown's energy has been so inconsistent that his own coach had to publicly call him out for it. 

I wouldnt be so concerned about any of this if it was unique to this season - I'd assume that it will just work itself out.  But we saw the same thing all of last year.  Kemba, Danny and Brad were made the scapegoats for that, but Kemba and Danny are gone now, Brad is no longer coach, we swapped half the team out for pure energy guys, and still nothing at all has changed so far.

It's not that the team is losing, it's the way they have been losing.  Routinely getting blown out by 15+ points bu bottom of the barrel lottery teams.
 Building 20 points leads only to blow them and lose by 15.  Take one look at the reactions from Horford and the coach and it's not hard to see that they feel the very same frustrations.  They both seem to be wondering the same thing that I've been wondering for over a year now - why is effort (of all things) the thing that's in question here?  This is the Celtics.  It's a franchise that's built a historical reputation for being a team of toughness, hustle and resilience.  What we're seeing lately - this is not Celtics basketball.

Again making assumptions about them as people. Saying their egos are affecting their play. You do not know them and in no interview I have even seen has either shown massive egos. You see a style of play and project your feeling upon them as people.

The Jays are now forced to carry this team offensively, like last year because there is no longer an IT, Kyrie, Hayward and healthy Kemba to help support them. It definitely affects the energy they have to expend on defense

And both guys have had Covid and the recovery affected their play. Ime mentioned Brown's inconsistency but knew he was working on his stamina due to Covid with the medical staff. That was idiotic by the new coach.
 
I could go on about recency bias but I won't. It's not worth it. You don't like the Jays and until they bring home a title, you probably never will.

Really sick of the COVID excuse in particular because that’s an issue for everyone, not just our team although for whatever reason we’ve had the most issues with it by far (at a certain point it begs the question of responsibility levels?). Probably valid with Smart since he got it before vaccines were available, but he missed a little time and came back at 100% (or did he because his defense has not been the same since?). Tatum was relatively early in the roll-out of the vaccines but believe they were still available to him at the time. There is almost no way a breakthrough case for a professional athlete like JB in his mid-20s would have these lingering issues like this, so it’s quite clear the guy probably did not get vaccinated, so really do not want to hear that excuse for JB in particular (and if he never fully overcomes the long-haul symptoms, let it be a clear message to unvaccinated fans?)

Come to think of it, cannot think of another trio (or even duo) that all got COVID where the two best players of the trio all obviously had lingering health issues after the infection. It’s not even clear JT is fully recovered at this point, or if he’s just plain done caring at times. What’s the deal with our team? Are we possibly down the tubes because of a duo that chose not to vaccinate? Even before COVID, though, it was clear the chemistry/camaraderie was probably not there for these three, and it’s hard to win it all without those intangibles.

Just a very ignorant post. Covid affects everyone differently. My aunt in her late 50s with comorbidities survived, my friend whos 28 with no comorbidity died. Sick and tired of judgemental idiotic posts like this im sorry.

Yes, COVID is extremely deadly and affects everyone differently with long-term symptoms that may last for the rest of one’s life for all we know, which is precisely why medical professionals strongly recommend getting the vaccine.

The point was that if JT and JB had gotten vaccinated, perhaps COVID would have been less of an issue for us? It’s definitely an issue for everybody, and perhaps more of an issue for people who refuse to get vaccinated? Evidence points towards neither one being vaccinated when they acquired COVID, particularly with JB as who has heard of a definitive breakthrough case of a professional athletes in his mid-20s who had lingering issues? Great demonstration of how debilitating the current dominant strain is…

Can anybody name another duo in the NBA who had lingering issues after getting COVID during the Delta phase? If not, maybe because all the others have at least one of the two in the duo who became vaccinated? Just a thought.

You haven't a clue whether the Jays got the vaccine or not. Your statement they didn't is just pure wild speculation

[Moranis]

Never understood Brad's love affair with him I would start Pritchard, not losing that Cleveland game and ending up with Smart instead of Gordan set the franchise back, in hindsight they should of taken Randle

I would bet money Pritchard would get eaten alive as a starter.....

I remember some years back during our rebuild, when we had guys like Keeyon Dooling, Marquese Daniels and Mikael Pietrus starting, with Avery Bradley as our "#1 guy". 

That team was outmatched on talent almost every time they stepped on the court, but you know what?  I was kinda OK with it because no matter what I knew that every single night every one of those guys would go out there on the court and they would leave absolutely everything they had on the floor.  And even though they would be outmatched on talent, they won games simply by playing as a team and just out-hustling every team they came up against, and I respected the crap out of that.

We might have glorious young talents like Brown and Tatum, but there hasn't been a single game ive seen this year (and not many last year) where I watched this team play and felt even the slightest semblance of pride that I felt when I watched those old teams full of scrubs go out there and compete every night.

So at this point I honestly don't care if Pritchard gets outplayed every night, and if every opponent scores 30 on him.  If he goes out there and plays with maximum effort then I'll take it. 

I'm sick and tired of watching these prissy, entitled Gen Z prima-donnas go out there acting like merely being present and putting on their jersey is enough to justify their multi million dollar paychecks...like hard work, sacrifice and dedication are merely 'inconveniences'.

Maybe it's time to find another team to cheer on then if you feel such disdain and disgust not only about our players but what you think they are as people too.

I don't know. I like Brown, Tatum, Horford, Timelord, Pritchard, Nesmith and Schroder. I sure as heck like them better as players like Bradley, Daniels, Puetrus and Fooling, that's for sure. I think they will turn things around and be a helluva team. And since I know none of them, I'm not going to make judgments of them as people.

I didn't say a thing about Horford, Timelord, Pritchard, Nesmith or Schroeder.  I have no problem with any of those guys. 

I don't have an issue with the talent level of Tatum or Brown either. 

What I do have a problem with is that is seems very clear Tatum and Brown have allowed their egos to grow to the point where their personal egos seem to far exceed their contributions to the win column.  They both play far too much hero ball, show far too little effort on the defensive end (despite demonstrating in the past that both are very capable defensively when they want to be) and both have shown seriously questionable energy / attitude when on the court. 

Tatum at times has looked like he's just going through the motions, while Brown's energy has been so inconsistent that his own coach had to publicly call him out for it. 

I wouldnt be so concerned about any of this if it was unique to this season - I'd assume that it will just work itself out.  But we saw the same thing all of last year.  Kemba, Danny and Brad were made the scapegoats for that, but Kemba and Danny are gone now, Brad is no longer coach, we swapped half the team out for pure energy guys, and still nothing at all has changed so far.

It's not that the team is losing, it's the way they have been losing.  Routinely getting blown out by 15+ points bu bottom of the barrel lottery teams.
 Building 20 points leads only to blow them and lose by 15.  Take one look at the reactions from Horford and the coach and it's not hard to see that they feel the very same frustrations.  They both seem to be wondering the same thing that I've been wondering for over a year now - why is effort (of all things) the thing that's in question here?  This is the Celtics.  It's a franchise that's built a historical reputation for being a team of toughness, hustle and resilience.  What we're seeing lately - this is not Celtics basketball.

Again making assumptions about them as people. Saying their egos are affecting their play. You do not know them and in no interview I have even seen has either shown massive egos. You see a style of play and project your feeling upon them as people.

The Jays are now forced to carry this team offensively, like last year because there is no longer an IT, Kyrie, Hayward and healthy Kemba to help support them. It definitely affects the energy they have to expend on defense

And both guys have had Covid and the recovery affected their play. Ime mentioned Brown's inconsistency but knew he was working on his stamina due to Covid with the medical staff. That was idiotic by the new coach.
 
I could go on about recency bias but I won't. It's not worth it. You don't like the Jays and until they bring home a title, you probably never will.

Really sick of the COVID excuse in particular because that’s an issue for everyone, not just our team although for whatever reason we’ve had the most issues with it by far (at a certain point it begs the question of responsibility levels?). Probably valid with Smart since he got it before vaccines were available, but he missed a little time and came back at 100% (or did he because his defense has not been the same since?). Tatum was relatively early in the roll-out of the vaccines but believe they were still available to him at the time. There is almost no way a breakthrough case for a professional athlete like JB in his mid-20s would have these lingering issues like this, so it’s quite clear the guy probably did not get vaccinated, so really do not want to hear that excuse for JB in particular (and if he never fully overcomes the long-haul symptoms, let it be a clear message to unvaccinated fans?)

Come to think of it, cannot think of another trio (or even duo) that all got COVID where the two best players of the trio all obviously had lingering health issues after the infection. It’s not even clear JT is fully recovered at this point, or if he’s just plain done caring at times. What’s the deal with our team? Are we possibly down the tubes because of a duo that chose not to vaccinate? Even before COVID, though, it was clear the chemistry/camaraderie was probably not there for these three, and it’s hard to win it all without those intangibles.

Just a very ignorant post. Covid affects everyone differently. My aunt in her late 50s with comorbidities survived, my friend whos 28 with no comorbidity died. Sick and tired of judgemental idiotic posts like this im sorry.

Yes, COVID is extremely deadly and affects everyone differently with long-term symptoms that may last for the rest of one’s life for all we know, which is precisely why medical professionals strongly recommend getting the vaccine.

The point was that if JT and JB had gotten vaccinated, perhaps COVID would have been less of an issue for us? It’s definitely an issue for everybody, and perhaps more of an issue for people who refuse to get vaccinated? Evidence points towards neither one being vaccinated when they acquired COVID, particularly with JB as who has heard of a definitive breakthrough case of a professional athletes in his mid-20s who had lingering issues? Great demonstration of how debilitating the current dominant strain is…

Can anybody name another duo in the NBA who had lingering issues after getting COVID during the Delta phase? If not, maybe because all the others have at least one of the two in the duo who became vaccinated? Just a thought.

You haven't a clue whether the Jays got the vaccine or not. Your statement they didn't is just pure wild speculation

Well Tatum wasn't vaccinated when he got covid because it wasn't available yet.  Tatum played in the Olympics so I believe he has to be vaccinated (I am fairly certain that is why Beal ended up dropping out).

[Big333223]

2-0 since Smart put a little pressure on everyone.

[Roy H.]

2-0 since Smart put a little pressure on everyone.

Too bad master motivator Smart hasn’t improved his own play those two games.

5-for-14 FG, 3-for-11 3PT, 3.0 assists, 2.0 turnovers, 8.5 points, one technical from the bench

[Ogaju]

2-0 since Smart put a little pressure on everyone.

Too bad master motivator Smart hasn’t improved his own play those two games.

5-for-14 FG, 3-for-11 3PT, 3.0 assists, 2.0 turnovers, 8.5 points, one technical from the bench

Doesn’t matter….he said what needed to be said.

[LilRip]

2-0 since Smart put a little pressure on everyone.

Too bad master motivator Smart hasn’t improved his own play those two games.

5-for-14 FG, 3-for-11 3PT, 3.0 assists, 2.0 turnovers, 8.5 points, one technical from the bench

Doesn’t matter….he said what needed to be said.

I would be surprised if this was true (although Woj’s report kinda contradicts it with the whole “it wasn’t productive” sentiment). Unfortunately, no way to factually prove or disprove these fan theories of Smart rah-rahing the team to 2 straight wins.

[Ogaju]

2-0 since Smart put a little pressure on everyone.

Too bad master motivator Smart hasn’t improved his own play those two games.

5-for-14 FG, 3-for-11 3PT, 3.0 assists, 2.0 turnovers, 8.5 points, one technical from the bench

Doesn’t matter….he said what needed to be said.

I would be surprised if this was true (although Woj’s report kinda contradicts it with the whole “it wasn’t productive” sentiment). Unfortunately, no way to factually prove or disprove these fan theories of Smart rah-rahing the team to 2 straight wins.

The results on the court contradict Woj. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Woj was hasty in his assessment. Smart’s statement led to a player’s only meeting…something I have been suggesting for a long time. That alone was a positive development. Woj is the only one that knows what he means by it wasn’t productive, but what remains true is that the team played with more focus and energy in the next two games and blew out a good Miami team on the back end of a back to back. The result on the court is what matters not the nature of the tenor of the meeting itself. So far the result has been good.

[Roy H.]

2-0 since Smart put a little pressure on everyone.

Too bad master motivator Smart hasn’t improved his own play those two games.

5-for-14 FG, 3-for-11 3PT, 3.0 assists, 2.0 turnovers, 8.5 points, one technical from the bench

Doesn’t matter….he said what needed to be said.

I would be surprised if this was true (although Woj’s report kinda contradicts it with the whole “it wasn’t productive” sentiment). Unfortunately, no way to factually prove or disprove these fan theories of Smart rah-rahing the team to 2 straight wins.

The results on the court contradict Woj. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Woj was hasty in his assessment. Smart’s statement led to a player’s only meeting…something I have been suggesting for a long time. That alone was a positive development. Woj is the only one that knows what he means by it wasn’t productive, but what remains true is that the team played with more focus and energy in the next two games and blew out a good Miami team on the back end of a back to back. The result on the court is what matters not the nature of the tenor of the meeting itself. So far the result has been good.

And yet, both Brown and Stevens didn’t think the comments were helpful, and said so publicly.  But, I suppose Marcus’ comments could have caused the Richardson injury and Nesmith’s great game.

[Ogaju]

2-0 since Smart put a little pressure on everyone.

Too bad master motivator Smart hasn’t improved his own play those two games.

5-for-14 FG, 3-for-11 3PT, 3.0 assists, 2.0 turnovers, 8.5 points, one technical from the bench

Doesn’t matter….he said what needed to be said.

I would be surprised if this was true (although Woj’s report kinda contradicts it with the whole “it wasn’t productive” sentiment). Unfortunately, no way to factually prove or disprove these fan theories of Smart rah-rahing the team to 2 straight wins.

The results on the court contradict Woj. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Woj was hasty in his assessment. Smart’s statement led to a player’s only meeting…something I have been suggesting for a long time. That alone was a positive development. Woj is the only one that knows what he means by it wasn’t productive, but what remains true is that the team played with more focus and energy in the next two games and blew out a good Miami team on the back end of a back to back. The result on the court is what matters not the nature of the tenor of the meeting itself. So far the result has been good.

And yet, both Brown and Stevens didn’t think the comments were helpful, and said so publicly.  But, I suppose Marcus’ comments could have caused the Richardson injury and Nesmith’s great game.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating…keep ignoring evidence that is smack in your face. He said what needed to be said. The Jays have been ball hogs for years everyone knows this. It was time for someone to put them on blast.

[nickagneta]

Proof is in the pudding.

Smart calls out the Jays for not passing. The Jays then average a combined 5 assists per game for the next two games.

The Jays were averaging a combined 6.2 assists per game before Smart's call out this year.

Last year the Jays averaged a combined 7.7 assists per game.

Where is this pudding with the proof exactly? Where exactly did Smart's comments help?

What Smart said wasn't helpful. What was helpful was the entire team deciding to play defense in unison. That's why they won those last two games.

[Ogaju]

Proof is in the pudding.

Smart calls out the Jays for not passing. The Jays then average a combined 5 assists per game for the next two games.

The Jays were averaging a combined 6.2 assists per game before Smart's call out this year.

Last year the Jays averaged a combined 7.7 assists per game.

Where is this pudding with the proof exactly? Where exactly did Smart's comments help?

What Smart said wasn't helpful. What was helpful was the entire team deciding to play defense in unison. That's why they won those last two games.

Yeah..they just decided to play better after one player spoke up and called out the ball hogs damaging the team.

[nickagneta]

Proof is in the pudding.

Smart calls out the Jays for not passing. The Jays then average a combined 5 assists per game for the next two games.

The Jays were averaging a combined 6.2 assists per game before Smart's call out this year.

Last year the Jays averaged a combined 7.7 assists per game.

Where is this pudding with the proof exactly? Where exactly did Smart's comments help?

What Smart said wasn't helpful. What was helpful was the entire team deciding to play defense in unison. That's why they won those last two games.

Yeah..they just decided to play better after one player spoke up and called out the ball hogs damaging the team.

Yes. The team won in spite of what Smart said not because of what he said, because the part of the game and team Smart called out, didn't get better, it got worse. What Smart didn't mention was the defense and that's the part of the game that the team improved on to win those two games

[footey]

This team needs to get away from all that hierarchical BS and integrate guys like Romeo and Aaron into the offense in a meaningful way. They are completely underutilized. Vets need to include them more in the offensive flow.