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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4020 on: April 21, 2022, 10:48:43 PM »

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Utah sucks

Yeah. Getting their butts kicked by a Luka-less Mavs team, and this series could have easily been 3-0. The Mavs were close to stealing game 1 as well.

*At home too!
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4021 on: April 21, 2022, 10:50:21 PM »

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In other news Luka is not playing for Dallas, but the Mavs are up 10 just into the start of the 2nd quarter.

Kudos to Dallas but I feel this says more about the Jazz than anything else. If the Jazz lose this series I expect real changes for them this offseason
I was honestly surprised they didn't trade Gobert last summer after his tiff with Mitchell and their under performance in the playoffs the last few years.  Team seems tapped out even if they beat a Luka-less Dallas.  Aside from moving Gobert I'm not sure what they can do and I'm not sure there is a going to be a huge market for Gobert.

Yeah they gave him a 5/205M contract extension lol

Honestly if Donovan Mitchell wants to demand a trade to Boston to team up with Jaylen and co. then I’d be down!
That is a ton of money, would they do some sort of dump for Wall.  I think he could fill a lot of what Conley.  So Wall and a couple of Houston's 1st's for Gobert.  Not sure that makes a lot of sense for either team, but I really don't know what Gobert's market will be and perhaps Utah's best approach is clearing the cap in the summer of 2023 to try and lure someone to play with Mitchell then.

Maybe try and make a deal with the Lakers involving Westbrook? Something using that framework. I know LAL has AD but that gives them a great front court and Gobert is another great defender
I don't think Westbrook makes sense at all in Utah.  He isn't a good fit and the Lakers don't have any other assets (aside from those way in the future picks) to trade.  Houston has so many draft picks and Wall fits better on their roster, that is why I thought a trade there would make sense, though obviously Gobert doesn't exactly fit Houston's timeline, I think they could hold onto him until they find a trade down the line and I do think his defense would make sense on a young team (he also isn't going to affect their tanking all that much).
A Houston trade doesn't make any sense either.  A bottom-feeder team giving up picks for Gobert so they may be able to trade him down the line.  He's going to be worth less down the line.  I'd say there would be a good chance his defensive limitations get exposed more on a bad team.  He needs to be on a pretty good team which is satisfied with making the playoffs and maybe winning a series.  Like say Utah. 

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4022 on: April 21, 2022, 10:55:55 PM »

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Utah sucks

Yeah. Getting their butts kicked by a Luka-less Mavs team, and this series could have easily been 3-0. The Mavs were close to stealing game 1 as well.

*At home too!


It's downright embarrassing. You have to blow it up after something like this.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4023 on: April 21, 2022, 11:00:59 PM »

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In other news Luka is not playing for Dallas, but the Mavs are up 10 just into the start of the 2nd quarter.

Kudos to Dallas but I feel this says more about the Jazz than anything else. If the Jazz lose this series I expect real changes for them this offseason
I was honestly surprised they didn't trade Gobert last summer after his tiff with Mitchell and their under performance in the playoffs the last few years.  Team seems tapped out even if they beat a Luka-less Dallas.  Aside from moving Gobert I'm not sure what they can do and I'm not sure there is a going to be a huge market for Gobert.

Yeah they gave him a 5/205M contract extension lol

Honestly if Donovan Mitchell wants to demand a trade to Boston to team up with Jaylen and co. then I’d be down!
That is a ton of money, would they do some sort of dump for Wall.  I think he could fill a lot of what Conley.  So Wall and a couple of Houston's 1st's for Gobert.  Not sure that makes a lot of sense for either team, but I really don't know what Gobert's market will be and perhaps Utah's best approach is clearing the cap in the summer of 2023 to try and lure someone to play with Mitchell then.

Maybe try and make a deal with the Lakers involving Westbrook? Something using that framework. I know LAL has AD but that gives them a great front court and Gobert is another great defender
I don't think Westbrook makes sense at all in Utah.  He isn't a good fit and the Lakers don't have any other assets (aside from those way in the future picks) to trade.  Houston has so many draft picks and Wall fits better on their roster, that is why I thought a trade there would make sense, though obviously Gobert doesn't exactly fit Houston's timeline, I think they could hold onto him until they find a trade down the line and I do think his defense would make sense on a young team (he also isn't going to affect their tanking all that much).
A Houston trade doesn't make any sense either.  A bottom-feeder team giving up picks for Gobert so they may be able to trade him down the line.  He's going to be worth less down the line.  I'd say there would be a good chance his defensive limitations get exposed more on a bad team.  He needs to be on a pretty good team which is satisfied with making the playoffs and maybe winning a series.  Like say Utah.
I think Gobert could actually stabilize Houston some.  They have talent and will add more this summer.  A steadying force in the middle (and I think he could play with Wood), could do a lot for the young players growth on the Rockets.  Green, in particular, would benefit a lot from Gobert. 
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4024 on: April 21, 2022, 11:03:26 PM »

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In other news Luka is not playing for Dallas, but the Mavs are up 10 just into the start of the 2nd quarter.

Kudos to Dallas but I feel this says more about the Jazz than anything else. If the Jazz lose this series I expect real changes for them this offseason
I was honestly surprised they didn't trade Gobert last summer after his tiff with Mitchell and their under performance in the playoffs the last few years.  Team seems tapped out even if they beat a Luka-less Dallas.  Aside from moving Gobert I'm not sure what they can do and I'm not sure there is a going to be a huge market for Gobert.

Yeah they gave him a 5/205M contract extension lol

Honestly if Donovan Mitchell wants to demand a trade to Boston to team up with Jaylen and co. then I’d be down!
That is a ton of money, would they do some sort of dump for Wall.  I think he could fill a lot of what Conley.  So Wall and a couple of Houston's 1st's for Gobert.  Not sure that makes a lot of sense for either team, but I really don't know what Gobert's market will be and perhaps Utah's best approach is clearing the cap in the summer of 2023 to try and lure someone to play with Mitchell then.

Maybe try and make a deal with the Lakers involving Westbrook? Something using that framework. I know LAL has AD but that gives them a great front court and Gobert is another great defender
I don't think Westbrook makes sense at all in Utah.  He isn't a good fit and the Lakers don't have any other assets (aside from those way in the future picks) to trade.  Houston has so many draft picks and Wall fits better on their roster, that is why I thought a trade there would make sense, though obviously Gobert doesn't exactly fit Houston's timeline, I think they could hold onto him until they find a trade down the line and I do think his defense would make sense on a young team (he also isn't going to affect their tanking all that much).
A Houston trade doesn't make any sense either.  A bottom-feeder team giving up picks for Gobert so they may be able to trade him down the line.  He's going to be worth less down the line.  I'd say there would be a good chance his defensive limitations get exposed more on a bad team.  He needs to be on a pretty good team which is satisfied with making the playoffs and maybe winning a series.  Like say Utah.
I think Gobert could actually stabilize Houston some.  They have talent and will add more this summer.  A steadying force in the middle (and I think he could play with Wood), could do a lot for the young players growth on the Rockets.  Green, in particular, would benefit a lot from Gobert.

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4025 on: April 21, 2022, 11:05:31 PM »

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Warriors giving Nuggets another beating. Jokic needs to find another team if he wants a championship. He has no support in Denver. They are a one man band.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4026 on: April 21, 2022, 11:13:37 PM »

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Warriors giving Nuggets another beating. Jokic needs to find another team if he wants a championship. He has no support in Denver. They are a one man band.

Or Denver just needs their 2nd and 3rd best players back in Jamaal Murray and Michael Porter Jr. it’s like taking away Brown and Smart and expecting the C’s to beat a healthy Bucks team.  Murray, Barton, Porter Jr, Gordon, Jokic would be giving the Warriors a run for their money.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4027 on: April 21, 2022, 11:21:00 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4028 on: April 21, 2022, 11:49:06 PM »

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Brunson is earning himself a huge payday in this playoff series.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4029 on: April 22, 2022, 12:07:33 AM »

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Jokic having himself a pretty solid game today
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4030 on: April 22, 2022, 12:41:27 AM »

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I used to like Will Barton, but has he always been this lazy? No effort tonight
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4031 on: April 22, 2022, 01:05:37 AM »

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Warriors giving Nuggets another beating. Jokic needs to find another team if he wants a championship. He has no support in Denver. They are a one man band.

Waitin' for Brad Stevens to convince Jokic to team up with Tatum


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4032 on: April 22, 2022, 01:14:49 AM »

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Wow, Celtics don't play again until Saturday. 2 games off between Games 1-2 and 2-3. Are they being too generous with this series' schedule or did the NBA try to fix this in favor of the Nets?


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4033 on: April 22, 2022, 01:17:50 AM »

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4034 on: April 22, 2022, 01:20:27 AM »

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Wow, Celtics don't play again until Saturday. 2 games off between Games 1-2 and 2-3. Are they being too generous with this series' schedule or did the NBA try to fix this in favor of the Nets?
That's typical.  The Sixers/Raptors 2 games off is between games 3 and 4.