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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4545 on: April 27, 2022, 09:57:58 PM »

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Who defends Tatum in the Celtics/Bucks series?

I'd think Giannis, a perennial DPOY candidate.
I don't think they want to wear Giannis out like that. Think they will let him be a roaming help defender.  Obviously it will be Middleton if he can go, but if he can't I think they might go with Holiday.  Obviously undersized, but strong, fast, and pesky.

Man these Bucks are gonna be tough. Tougher than the Nets.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4546 on: April 27, 2022, 10:19:08 PM »

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Who defends Tatum in the Celtics/Bucks series?

I'd think Giannis, a perennial DPOY candidate.
I don't think they want to wear Giannis out like that. Think they will let him be a roaming help defender.  Obviously it will be Middleton if he can go, but if he can't I think they might go with Holiday.  Obviously undersized, but strong, fast, and pesky.

Yeah, Giannis really never guards the best perimeter player as an energy/foul saving strategy. Giannis can't guard someone like Tatum all game. He'd foul out and/or wear himself out, as he's a bit too big and slow laterally to guard someone like that full-time out on the perimeter. He was catching flack about that last year against the Nets and KD, though some of it was justified as even down the stretch he didn't seem to want to guard him.

If no Middleton, you'll see a mix of Jrue and Matthews I think. Though neither of them are good options, as Tatum is way too big for both of them, and will shoot right over them unimpeded. JB is even a bit big for them to guard.

That's where Middleton's absence is really going to hurt them. That's one less big wing to throw on Tatum and Brown to make it difficult for them.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4547 on: April 27, 2022, 10:24:56 PM »

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Nuggets/Warriors getting chippy…. I love it. Aaron Gordon finally being aggressive.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4548 on: April 27, 2022, 10:29:31 PM »

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Full schedule is out, with the times after Game 1 all still TBD



But dang... it's one of those series with 3 days off between two games (Game 2 and Game 3 here, between Tuesday and Saturday)...  :(
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« Reply #4549 on: April 27, 2022, 10:41:10 PM »

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Full schedule is out, with the times after Game 1 all still TBD



But dang... it's one of those series with 3 days off between two games (Game 2 and Game 3 here, between Tuesday and Saturday)...  :(

Nice. When is Middleton expected to be back? Hopefully the series will be over before then.  :D
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4550 on: April 27, 2022, 10:43:03 PM »

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Full schedule is out, with the times after Game 1 all still TBD



But dang... it's one of those series with 3 days off between two games (Game 2 and Game 3 here, between Tuesday and Saturday)...  :(

Nice. When is Middleton expected to be back? Hopefully the series will be over before then.  :D

They already ruled him out Game 1 (shocker). Woj did report earlier today that it's probably going to need longer than 2 weeks so Middleton may actually miss the entire series. But I think there's a chance he comes back after Game 3 or 4, I don't think he's like Simmons he may battle it out even for limited minutes if this is a deep series
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4551 on: April 27, 2022, 10:47:11 PM »

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Full schedule is out, with the times after Game 1 all still TBD



But dang... it's one of those series with 3 days off between two games (Game 2 and Game 3 here, between Tuesday and Saturday)...  :(

Nice. When is Middleton expected to be back? Hopefully the series will be over before then.  :D

They already ruled him out Game 1 (shocker). Woj did report earlier today that it's probably going to need longer than 2 weeks so Middleton may actually miss the entire series. But I think there's a chance he comes back after Game 3 or 4, I don't think he's like Simmons he may battle it out even for limited minutes if this is a deep series

Middleton is tough. If he can play he will play. As you say, I wouldn't be surprised to see him hobble out there in game 4 or 5. If he's not close to 100% though Tatum and Brown will smoke him.

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« Reply #4552 on: April 27, 2022, 11:11:25 PM »

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Let's not forget the Warriors are dangerous with a 3-1 series lead.

Warriors? 3-1 series lead? :o

Nuggets are also dangerous trailing a 3-1 series. Lol.

Nuggets up 48-45 in GSW. EDIT: 48-48 half but dang the home team should be picking them apart.


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4553 on: April 27, 2022, 11:40:45 PM »

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Let's not forget the Warriors are dangerous with a 3-1 series lead.

Warriors? 3-1 series lead? :o

Nuggets are also dangerous trailing a 3-1 series. Lol.

Nuggets up 48-45 in GSW. EDIT: 48-48 half but dang the home team should be picking them apart.

Honestly, if the Nuggets get Healthy, I could see them being the best team in the West next year. They are missing their 2nd and 3rd best players and are still giving the Warriors problems. Murray, Barton, Porter Jr, Gordon, Jokic with Morris, Green, Green, Hyland off the bench…That’s a big, young and talented team.
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« Reply #4554 on: April 27, 2022, 11:41:02 PM »

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Jokic dominating Warriors well on his way to a triple double

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« Reply #4555 on: April 28, 2022, 12:26:54 AM »

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4556 on: April 28, 2022, 12:56:28 AM »

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I'm pretty sure there was someone on this site arguing a couple of months back that the Bulls were a real threat because DeMar had grown as a player.  This was the new and improved DeMar we were seeing in the regular season, not Toronto DeMar.


Sure looked like the same old DeMar DeRozan to me in the playoffs.


Obviously the Bulls had a ton of injuries causing them to go out with a whimper, not laying that all on DeMar, but he still sucked for the series, except for Game 2.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4557 on: April 28, 2022, 01:25:19 AM »

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I'm pretty sure there was someone on this site arguing a couple of months back that the Bulls were a real threat because DeMar had grown as a player.  This was the new and improved DeMar we were seeing in the regular season, not Toronto DeMar.


Sure looked like the same old DeMar DeRozan to me in the playoffs.


Obviously the Bulls had a ton of injuries causing them to go out with a whimper, not laying that all on DeMar, but he still sucked for the series, except for Game 2.

As you acknowledge, there were huge injuries. He was playing his best when ball was healthy because lonzo shot 42% on 7.5 three pointers again. Think about that for a minute. Then you add in a banged up/not playing Caruso and then add on top of it lavine and it becomes a downright laughable argument. Let’s not discount an 82 game season because the rest of the guard rotation was out. Heck curry and Durant have recently struggled in similar situations. Man has improved every year and was awesome this year. I applaud him.

I’ll also add that Milwaukee was a tough draw but a healthy Caruso, lavine and ball this team is way better.

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« Reply #4558 on: April 28, 2022, 01:33:05 AM »

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Let's not forget the Warriors are dangerous with a 3-1 series lead.

Warriors? 3-1 series lead? :o

Nuggets are also dangerous trailing a 3-1 series. Lol.

Nuggets up 48-45 in GSW. EDIT: 48-48 half but dang the home team should be picking them apart.

They ran out of gas cause they had horrible players after jokic, arguably worst in league. This is why I have said all season denver isn’t very good. Just weren’t a lot of good teams in the west this year beyond golden state and Phoenix. Minnesota and memphis will be good next year but as we have in their first round series both are not ready.

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« Reply #4559 on: April 28, 2022, 02:41:47 AM »

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I'm pretty sure there was someone on this site arguing a couple of months back that the Bulls were a real threat because DeMar had grown as a player.  This was the new and improved DeMar we were seeing in the regular season, not Toronto DeMar.


Sure looked like the same old DeMar DeRozan to me in the playoffs.


Obviously the Bulls had a ton of injuries causing them to go out with a whimper, not laying that all on DeMar, but he still sucked for the series, except for Game 2.

As you acknowledge, there were huge injuries. He was playing his best when ball was healthy because lonzo shot 42% on 7.5 three pointers again. Think about that for a minute. Then you add in a banged up/not playing Caruso and then add on top of it lavine and it becomes a downright laughable argument. Let’s not discount an 82 game season because the rest of the guard rotation was out. Heck curry and Durant have recently struggled in similar situations. Man has improved every year and was awesome this year. I applaud him.

I’ll also add that Milwaukee was a tough draw but a healthy Caruso, lavine and ball this team is way better.

What's the laughable argument?

That he took 10 shots tonight?  Or 9 in Game 3? Went 6 for 25 in Game 1?  I don't care how many injuries a team has, this is not what I expect from a "superstar".  If the dude can't get shots because other players are out, he's just not that great.

And definitely not due to Lonzo.  Lonzo went out in mid-January, while DeMar had his best month in February (34.2 ppg)

The more guys that are out, the more shots I expect someone like DeMar to take.  Compare it to last year with the Celtics.  Brown's out, Walker's out, Time Lord's out.  Did Tatum take more or less shots?  He took a lot more (about 5 more per game if you either take out or adjust for Game 2 when he only played 1 half due to an eye injury).

I'm not saying I expect DeMar to lead Chicago to victory.  It's a tough match up that the Bulls would probably struggle with even if healthy.  But DeMar's always been fool's gold in my book.  One of the reason's he looked good this year is he was taking more shots and his usage is up.  Did he get better, ya a little bit.  But is he a different player, not really.

You can judge him by the regular season all you want.  I'll continue to judge him by what he shows in the playoffs. 

It's like if Ben Simmons comes out next year, has his best statistical season ever, it would be fair to wait until the playoffs to really judge him, right?

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