Who doesn’t make the roster?

[nickagneta]

Dunn gets traded in as salary dumped with a 2nd and cash to help stay out of the luxury tax

If we are underachieving at the deadline, I could see us packaging Dunn with Romeo in order to avoid the tax. Let's say we get a second rounder out of it (plus cap relief). Don't expect us to underachieve, but you never know what to expect with a rookie head coach.

As things stand right now we're $6,608,558 over the tax line. Dunn's salary is $5,005,350.

If we're underachieving, the easiest way to get under the tax might be to send Schroder to a contender for the stretch run.  We should hopefully be able to get a couple of seconds out of it.

It wouldn't get us under the tax though. Schroder's salary is $5,890,000. As things stand right now, we're $6,608,558 over the tax line.

If we trade Edwards along with a 2nd before the start of the season for example, then if we are underachieving come trade deadline then trade Schroder for a couple 2nds that should do the trick in sneaking under the tax.

If we dump both Schroder and Edwards without replacing one of them, we'll have 14 players under contract. Would you want us to finish the season with 14 players instead of 15 in order for Wyc to avoid the tax?

Does it matter what we want?

And regardless of what we want, is there all that much value or team quality lost by not having your 15th man on the roster. For instance, are the C's all that much worse a team if Jabari and Edwards or Dunn and Edwards not on the team this year? I don't think so.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Dunn gets traded in as salary dumped with a 2nd and cash to help stay out of the luxury tax

If we are underachieving at the deadline, I could see us packaging Dunn with Romeo in order to avoid the tax. Let's say we get a second rounder out of it (plus cap relief). Don't expect us to underachieve, but you never know what to expect with a rookie head coach.

As things stand right now we're $6,608,558 over the tax line. Dunn's salary is $5,005,350.

If we're underachieving, the easiest way to get under the tax might be to send Schroder to a contender for the stretch run.  We should hopefully be able to get a couple of seconds out of it.

It wouldn't get us under the tax though. Schroder's salary is $5,890,000. As things stand right now, we're $6,608,558 over the tax line.

If we trade Edwards along with a 2nd before the start of the season for example, then if we are underachieving come trade deadline then trade Schroder for a couple 2nds that should do the trick in sneaking under the tax.

If we dump both Schroder and Edwards without replacing one of them, we'll have 14 players under contract. Would you want us to finish the season with 14 players instead of 15 in order for Wyc to avoid the tax?

Does it matter what we want?

And regardless of what we want, is there all that much value or team quality lost by not having your 15th man on the roster. For instance, are the C's all that much worse a team if Jabari and Edwards or Dunn and Edwards not on the team this year? I don't think so.

The thing about those guys are that Jabari (and maybe Dunn to some effect) are not 15th men of the roster. They'd be higher in the rotation, Dunn to a lesser effect just because you may opt to develop the younger guys than give Dunn minutes, plus with Smart around what Dunn can bring to the floor is diminished.

All this to say, a lot of this decisions in the end could come from the purely financial aspect than rotation considerations. If rotation was being considered then Jabari wouldn't even be in the discussion, depending on our starting unit, he'd probably be the first PF off the bench.

To your point, in the scheme of things none of them will probably be missed, you always have others who can step up... but of those guys, it's Jabari who has the biggest chance of having an impact on how we play on a daily basis.

[SHAQATTACK]

Parker is a cheap way to rest Tatum .

I think he has value in that alone .

[Vermont Green]

The idea of just trading a player like Edwards to shed salary is not going to be all that easy.  Right now, there are 17 teams that have between 16 and 18 signed players.  I don't know the exact status of all these, teams may have non-guaranteed contracts like Parker, but that is probably 20 or so players that teams will be looking to unload that will be added to currently available FAs.

There are 6 teams with 14 signed players but many of these these are teams like the Lakers and PHI who are doing this on purpose so that they can pick up someone who is released and can be useful.  They are not going to take someone like Edwards.  Then there are two teams with 13 signed (POR and CHI) and one with only 11 signed (MIN).

I don't see that many places where we are going to be able to just send out Edwards or Dunn.  The few teams that are actually looking for a player will have plenty of options.  There are simply not enough chairs for everyone when the music stops.  Teams have no reason to trade for these players, even for second round picks or whatever.  There will be plenty of released players they can sign for min contracts.

It wouldn’t be hard to trade Edwards if the Celtics want.  He’s owed ~$1.8 million.  If they send Edwards and a little bit more than he’s owed, say about $2.2 million, some team with a little cap space or a small exception might appreciate the profit even if they intend to cut Edwards immediately.

Of course, it’s cheaper still to just cut Parker, and it’s why he’s gone unless he wins a rotation spot (or a consolidating trade is made). Being the non-guaranteed 16th man with a roster of 15 guaranteed contracts requires you to be more than merely the 12th man out of 15.

To be clear, it still needs to be a team with a roster spot (which right now is only 9 teams) and with cap space or a TPE they want to waste.  I get that there is a mechanism for this, what you describe is accurate as far I know, but there are not that many teams in position to do it.   I don't see it happening.  Edwards would likely need to just be cut before the start of the season if they don't decide to give up on Parker (which is certainly a possibility).  My prediction/expectation is that Edwards end up getting waived, not claimed, and released, so we can start the season with 15.  Then something may be done with Schroder or Dunn during the season.

Before opening day you can have I think 20 players under contract.  So a team with 19 could trade for Edwards and cash, as I described, cut him, and not have to do anything about their other roster spots.  That’s why it won’t be hard to move him if they choose to do so.

That is a good point, you don't have to cut down the roster until you have to.  I hope you are right.  If we can sell off Edwards preseason with no cap hit, then we could have the option to "sell off" either Dunn or Schroder during the season and get under the tax for another season.  I will still be surprised if either of these two things happen but let's see.

[Jvalin]

Dunn gets traded in as salary dumped with a 2nd and cash to help stay out of the luxury tax

If we are underachieving at the deadline, I could see us packaging Dunn with Romeo in order to avoid the tax. Let's say we get a second rounder out of it (plus cap relief). Don't expect us to underachieve, but you never know what to expect with a rookie head coach.

As things stand right now we're $6,608,558 over the tax line. Dunn's salary is $5,005,350.

If we're underachieving, the easiest way to get under the tax might be to send Schroder to a contender for the stretch run.  We should hopefully be able to get a couple of seconds out of it.

It wouldn't get us under the tax though. Schroder's salary is $5,890,000. As things stand right now, we're $6,608,558 over the tax line.

If we trade Edwards along with a 2nd before the start of the season for example, then if we are underachieving come trade deadline then trade Schroder for a couple 2nds that should do the trick in sneaking under the tax.

If we dump both Schroder and Edwards without replacing one of them, we'll have 14 players under contract. Would you want us to finish the season with 14 players instead of 15 in order for Wyc to avoid the tax?

Does it matter what we want?

You are right. Let's shut down CelticsStrong then, cause our opinion doesn't matter anyway. All that matters is what Wyc wants.

Come on man! Yes, it matters what the fans want. The Celtics exist only because the fans support the team.

[Roy H.]

Dunn gets traded in as salary dumped with a 2nd and cash to help stay out of the luxury tax

If we are underachieving at the deadline, I could see us packaging Dunn with Romeo in order to avoid the tax. Let's say we get a second rounder out of it (plus cap relief). Don't expect us to underachieve, but you never know what to expect with a rookie head coach.

As things stand right now we're $6,608,558 over the tax line. Dunn's salary is $5,005,350.

If we're underachieving, the easiest way to get under the tax might be to send Schroder to a contender for the stretch run.  We should hopefully be able to get a couple of seconds out of it.

It wouldn't get us under the tax though. Schroder's salary is $5,890,000. As things stand right now, we're $6,608,558 over the tax line.

If we trade Edwards along with a 2nd before the start of the season for example, then if we are underachieving come trade deadline then trade Schroder for a couple 2nds that should do the trick in sneaking under the tax.

If we dump both Schroder and Edwards without replacing one of them, we'll have 14 players under contract. Would you want us to finish the season with 14 players instead of 15 in order for Wyc to avoid the tax?

Does it matter what we want?

You are right. Let's shut down CelticsStrong then, cause our opinion doesn't matter anyway. All that matters is what Wyc wants.

Come on man! Yes, it matters what the fans want. The Celtics exist only because the fans support the team.

I'm just not sensing that there will be any sort of fan revolt if the team doesn't fill it's 15th roster slot after the trade deadline, particularly if we're underachieving.

I mean, if the off-season was based upon what I wanted, we'd still have Evan Fournier.   And, I think that if the majority of fans realized that he was let go for budgetary, rather than competitive, reasons, they'd argue we should have signed him.  But, I'm pretty sure the front office doesn't care.

[ETNCeltics]

If Parker shows up healthy, in shape, and hungry, he's worth a spot in our rotation. He's only 25 and has been a legit scorer in the past. He has a true PF's game with some nice offense inside of 15 feet, a unique game we don't have a lot of otherwise. You can watch his highlights and see he has some really quick feet compared to Grant, who looks like he's moving in wet sand.

If you can trust his health, he can no doubt help us. I don't think we can genuinely make the case that Edwards, Williams, Fernando do a lot for us, barring a number of simultaneous injuries.

[Jvalin]

Dunn gets traded in as salary dumped with a 2nd and cash to help stay out of the luxury tax

If we are underachieving at the deadline, I could see us packaging Dunn with Romeo in order to avoid the tax. Let's say we get a second rounder out of it (plus cap relief). Don't expect us to underachieve, but you never know what to expect with a rookie head coach.

As things stand right now we're $6,608,558 over the tax line. Dunn's salary is $5,005,350.

If we're underachieving, the easiest way to get under the tax might be to send Schroder to a contender for the stretch run.  We should hopefully be able to get a couple of seconds out of it.

It wouldn't get us under the tax though. Schroder's salary is $5,890,000. As things stand right now, we're $6,608,558 over the tax line.

If we trade Edwards along with a 2nd before the start of the season for example, then if we are underachieving come trade deadline then trade Schroder for a couple 2nds that should do the trick in sneaking under the tax.

If we dump both Schroder and Edwards without replacing one of them, we'll have 14 players under contract. Would you want us to finish the season with 14 players instead of 15 in order for Wyc to avoid the tax?

Does it matter what we want?

You are right. Let's shut down CelticsStrong then, cause our opinion doesn't matter anyway. All that matters is what Wyc wants.

Come on man! Yes, it matters what the fans want. The Celtics exist only because the fans support the team.

I'm just not sensing that there will be any sort of fan revolt if the team doesn't fill it's 15th roster slot after the trade deadline, particularly if we're underachieving.

I mean, if the off-season was based upon what I wanted, we'd still have Evan Fournier.   And, I think that if the majority of fans realized that he was let go for budgetary, rather than competitive, reasons, they'd argue we should have signed him.  But, I'm pretty sure the front office doesn't care.

If Wyc forces the team to finish the season with 14 players, then he's one of the cheapest owners around the NBA. Don't think it is likely to happen though unless we face a massive injury crisis and we tank the season.

Obviously, the front office doesn't care what each and every fan wants. Since when did that prevent us from criticizing the front office / expressing our opinion? If the offseason was based upon what I wanted, we would have traded anybody but the Jays + multiple picks for Ben Simmons.

Does it matter what we want?

And regardless of what we want, is there all that much value or team quality lost by not having your 15th man on the roster. For instance, are the C's all that much worse a team if Jabari and Edwards or Dunn and Edwards not on the team this year? I don't think so.

Personally speaking, I find it weird when fans care more about Wyc's money than they do about the success of their favorite team. It's one thing to say that Wyc won't pay a record-breaking tax for an underachieving team, it's a different thing to want to sabotage the team in order for Wyc to save money.

[action781]

GWill has proven to be useful so I don't see him as getting cut.  I see us having a PF rotation shared by Parker, GWill, and Bruno.  That is our weakest group for sure.  Parker's contract (nonguaranteed) give cutting him another dimension but I think he will prove to be useful for maybe 18 min or so as a PF/Swing.

Grant Williams for sure should still be here this season.  He has played inconsistent, but at times good basketball already in the 2 years he's been here, is still only 22 years old, and plays the position we are most shallow at.  He didn't take the leap in year 2 that myself and many hoped he would, but he did improve his shooting percent from his rookie season, including connecting on 37% of 3s in his second season.  And last season was a weird one for lots of players on our team so we have to give him one more season.

[Moranis]

Dunn gets traded in as salary dumped with a 2nd and cash to help stay out of the luxury tax

If we are underachieving at the deadline, I could see us packaging Dunn with Romeo in order to avoid the tax. Let's say we get a second rounder out of it (plus cap relief). Don't expect us to underachieve, but you never know what to expect with a rookie head coach.

As things stand right now we're $6,608,558 over the tax line. Dunn's salary is $5,005,350.

If we're underachieving, the easiest way to get under the tax might be to send Schroder to a contender for the stretch run.  We should hopefully be able to get a couple of seconds out of it.

It wouldn't get us under the tax though. Schroder's salary is $5,890,000. As things stand right now, we're $6,608,558 over the tax line.

If we trade Edwards along with a 2nd before the start of the season for example, then if we are underachieving come trade deadline then trade Schroder for a couple 2nds that should do the trick in sneaking under the tax.

If we dump both Schroder and Edwards without replacing one of them, we'll have 14 players under contract. Would you want us to finish the season with 14 players instead of 15 in order for Wyc to avoid the tax?

Does it matter what we want?

You are right. Let's shut down CelticsStrong then, cause our opinion doesn't matter anyway. All that matters is what Wyc wants.

Come on man! Yes, it matters what the fans want. The Celtics exist only because the fans support the team.

I'm just not sensing that there will be any sort of fan revolt if the team doesn't fill it's 15th roster slot after the trade deadline, particularly if we're underachieving.

I mean, if the off-season was based upon what I wanted, we'd still have Evan Fournier.   And, I think that if the majority of fans realized that he was let go for budgetary, rather than competitive, reasons, they'd argue we should have signed him.  But, I'm pretty sure the front office doesn't care.

You don't think the majority of the fans know this.  I'm pretty sure everyone knows the team didn't want to pay him the money he ended up getting.

[Roy H.]

Dunn gets traded in as salary dumped with a 2nd and cash to help stay out of the luxury tax

If we are underachieving at the deadline, I could see us packaging Dunn with Romeo in order to avoid the tax. Let's say we get a second rounder out of it (plus cap relief). Don't expect us to underachieve, but you never know what to expect with a rookie head coach.

As things stand right now we're $6,608,558 over the tax line. Dunn's salary is $5,005,350.

If we're underachieving, the easiest way to get under the tax might be to send Schroder to a contender for the stretch run.  We should hopefully be able to get a couple of seconds out of it.

It wouldn't get us under the tax though. Schroder's salary is $5,890,000. As things stand right now, we're $6,608,558 over the tax line.

If we trade Edwards along with a 2nd before the start of the season for example, then if we are underachieving come trade deadline then trade Schroder for a couple 2nds that should do the trick in sneaking under the tax.

If we dump both Schroder and Edwards without replacing one of them, we'll have 14 players under contract. Would you want us to finish the season with 14 players instead of 15 in order for Wyc to avoid the tax?

Does it matter what we want?

You are right. Let's shut down CelticsStrong then, cause our opinion doesn't matter anyway. All that matters is what Wyc wants.

Come on man! Yes, it matters what the fans want. The Celtics exist only because the fans support the team.

I'm just not sensing that there will be any sort of fan revolt if the team doesn't fill it's 15th roster slot after the trade deadline, particularly if we're underachieving.

I mean, if the off-season was based upon what I wanted, we'd still have Evan Fournier.   And, I think that if the majority of fans realized that he was let go for budgetary, rather than competitive, reasons, they'd argue we should have signed him.  But, I'm pretty sure the front office doesn't care.

You don't think the majority of the fans know this.  I'm pretty sure everyone knows the team didn't want to pay him the money he ended up getting.

I think the majority of fans don't realize that we could have made every single move we made this off-season while still resigning Fournier.  There's a lot of confusion about cap rules, and I think that there's been a narrative that the team "couldn't afford" Fournier. 

If Wyc wanted to pay as much tax as, say, Milwaukee, we could have had the same team plus Fournier, which is quite simply a better team.

[nickagneta]

Dunn gets traded in as salary dumped with a 2nd and cash to help stay out of the luxury tax

If we are underachieving at the deadline, I could see us packaging Dunn with Romeo in order to avoid the tax. Let's say we get a second rounder out of it (plus cap relief). Don't expect us to underachieve, but you never know what to expect with a rookie head coach.

As things stand right now we're $6,608,558 over the tax line. Dunn's salary is $5,005,350.

If we're underachieving, the easiest way to get under the tax might be to send Schroder to a contender for the stretch run.  We should hopefully be able to get a couple of seconds out of it.

It wouldn't get us under the tax though. Schroder's salary is $5,890,000. As things stand right now, we're $6,608,558 over the tax line.

If we trade Edwards along with a 2nd before the start of the season for example, then if we are underachieving come trade deadline then trade Schroder for a couple 2nds that should do the trick in sneaking under the tax.

If we dump both Schroder and Edwards without replacing one of them, we'll have 14 players under contract. Would you want us to finish the season with 14 players instead of 15 in order for Wyc to avoid the tax?

Does it matter what we want?

You are right. Let's shut down CelticsStrong then, cause our opinion doesn't matter anyway. All that matters is what Wyc wants.

Come on man! Yes, it matters what the fans want. The Celtics exist only because the fans support the team.

I'm just not sensing that there will be any sort of fan revolt if the team doesn't fill it's 15th roster slot after the trade deadline, particularly if we're underachieving.

I mean, if the off-season was based upon what I wanted, we'd still have Evan Fournier.   And, I think that if the majority of fans realized that he was let go for budgetary, rather than competitive, reasons, they'd argue we should have signed him.  But, I'm pretty sure the front office doesn't care.

If Wyc forces the team to finish the season with 14 players, then he's one of the cheapest owners around the NBA. Don't think it is likely to happen though unless we face a massive injury crisis and we tank the season.

Obviously, the front office doesn't care what each and every fan wants. Since when did that prevent us from criticizing the front office / expressing our opinion? If the offseason was based upon what I wanted, we would have traded anybody but the Jays + multiple picks for Ben Simmons.

Does it matter what we want?

And regardless of what we want, is there all that much value or team quality lost by not having your 15th man on the roster. For instance, are the C's all that much worse a team if Jabari and Edwards or Dunn and Edwards not on the team this year? I don't think so.

Personally speaking, I find it weird when fans care more about Wyc's money than they do about the success of their favorite team. It's one thing to say that Wyc won't pay a record-breaking tax for an underachieving team, it's a different thing to want to sabotage the team in order for Wyc to save money.

Are you sabotaging the team by only carrying 14 guys? How often are the 15th rotational piece a contributor to the team that a two way player can't fill? I think the answer is close to never.

Couple years back the team went with 14 guys almost the whole year and, if memory serves me, picked up Greg Monroe late in the season and he contributed next to nothing the rest of that year.

14 players? 15? There is little difference and it certainly wouldn't sabotage a team.

[Vermont Green]

Personally speaking, I find it weird when fans care more about Wyc's money than they do about the success of their favorite team. It's one thing to say that Wyc won't pay a record-breaking tax for an underachieving team, it's a different thing to want to sabotage the team in order for Wyc to save money.

The way I look at contracts as a fan is the team needs to sign smart contracts or it hurts the team in the end.  It is not that I care about the owner's money, it is a salary cap league and if you sign bad contracts, you end up a bad team.  If you sign players just because you can, it eventually ends up hurting the team if it is a bad contract.

Fournier was about value and yes, we could have signed him and gotten around the cap but in the long run, if Richardson turns out to be a better contract value, the team will be better for it based on other talent we are able to bring in.  It would have made no sense to have both Richardson and Fournier on the team.  It was one or the other.  They are not that much different.

[Jvalin]

Dunn gets traded in as salary dumped with a 2nd and cash to help stay out of the luxury tax

If we are underachieving at the deadline, I could see us packaging Dunn with Romeo in order to avoid the tax. Let's say we get a second rounder out of it (plus cap relief). Don't expect us to underachieve, but you never know what to expect with a rookie head coach.

As things stand right now we're $6,608,558 over the tax line. Dunn's salary is $5,005,350.

If we're underachieving, the easiest way to get under the tax might be to send Schroder to a contender for the stretch run.  We should hopefully be able to get a couple of seconds out of it.

It wouldn't get us under the tax though. Schroder's salary is $5,890,000. As things stand right now, we're $6,608,558 over the tax line.

If we trade Edwards along with a 2nd before the start of the season for example, then if we are underachieving come trade deadline then trade Schroder for a couple 2nds that should do the trick in sneaking under the tax.

If we dump both Schroder and Edwards without replacing one of them, we'll have 14 players under contract. Would you want us to finish the season with 14 players instead of 15 in order for Wyc to avoid the tax?

Does it matter what we want?

You are right. Let's shut down CelticsStrong then, cause our opinion doesn't matter anyway. All that matters is what Wyc wants.

Come on man! Yes, it matters what the fans want. The Celtics exist only because the fans support the team.

I'm just not sensing that there will be any sort of fan revolt if the team doesn't fill it's 15th roster slot after the trade deadline, particularly if we're underachieving.

I mean, if the off-season was based upon what I wanted, we'd still have Evan Fournier.   And, I think that if the majority of fans realized that he was let go for budgetary, rather than competitive, reasons, they'd argue we should have signed him.  But, I'm pretty sure the front office doesn't care.

If Wyc forces the team to finish the season with 14 players, then he's one of the cheapest owners around the NBA. Don't think it is likely to happen though unless we face a massive injury crisis and we tank the season.

Obviously, the front office doesn't care what each and every fan wants. Since when did that prevent us from criticizing the front office / expressing our opinion? If the offseason was based upon what I wanted, we would have traded anybody but the Jays + multiple picks for Ben Simmons.

Does it matter what we want?

And regardless of what we want, is there all that much value or team quality lost by not having your 15th man on the roster. For instance, are the C's all that much worse a team if Jabari and Edwards or Dunn and Edwards not on the team this year? I don't think so.

Personally speaking, I find it weird when fans care more about Wyc's money than they do about the success of their favorite team. It's one thing to say that Wyc won't pay a record-breaking tax for an underachieving team, it's a different thing to want to sabotage the team in order for Wyc to save money.

Are you sabotaging the team by only carrying 14 guys? How often are the 15th rotational piece a contributor to the team that a two way player can't fill? I think the answer is close to never.

Couple years back the team went with 14 guys almost the whole year and, if memory serves me, picked up Greg Monroe late in the season and he contributed next to nothing the rest of that year.

14 players? 15? There is little difference and it certainly wouldn't sabotage a team.

''Couple of years back the team went with 14 guys almost the whole year'' cause we were waiting to use our $8.4 million Disabled Player Exception (we got it cause Hayward broke his foot). Monroe was the best available free agent via the buyout market. He failed to meet expectations, but we did the best we could to strengthen the roster.

Are you sabotaging the team by only carrying 14 guys?

Of course you are. The NBA allows teams to have up to 15 players (plus the 2-way contracts). If an owner wants to pay 14 players in order to save money, then he's sabotaging his team's success. Remember Shane Larkin? He was our 3rd/4th string PG in 2018 (that was the year we got Monroe), yet he proved to be a valuable player when Kyrie got injured.

[slamtheking]

Dunn gets traded in as salary dumped with a 2nd and cash to help stay out of the luxury tax

If we are underachieving at the deadline, I could see us packaging Dunn with Romeo in order to avoid the tax. Let's say we get a second rounder out of it (plus cap relief). Don't expect us to underachieve, but you never know what to expect with a rookie head coach.

As things stand right now we're $6,608,558 over the tax line. Dunn's salary is $5,005,350.

If we're underachieving, the easiest way to get under the tax might be to send Schroder to a contender for the stretch run.  We should hopefully be able to get a couple of seconds out of it.

It wouldn't get us under the tax though. Schroder's salary is $5,890,000. As things stand right now, we're $6,608,558 over the tax line.

If we trade Edwards along with a 2nd before the start of the season for example, then if we are underachieving come trade deadline then trade Schroder for a couple 2nds that should do the trick in sneaking under the tax.

If we dump both Schroder and Edwards without replacing one of them, we'll have 14 players under contract. Would you want us to finish the season with 14 players instead of 15 in order for Wyc to avoid the tax?

Does it matter what we want?

You are right. Let's shut down CelticsStrong then, cause our opinion doesn't matter anyway. All that matters is what Wyc wants.

Come on man! Yes, it matters what the fans want. The Celtics exist only because the fans support the team.

I'm just not sensing that there will be any sort of fan revolt if the team doesn't fill it's 15th roster slot after the trade deadline, particularly if we're underachieving.

I mean, if the off-season was based upon what I wanted, we'd still have Evan Fournier.   And, I think that if the majority of fans realized that he was let go for budgetary, rather than competitive, reasons, they'd argue we should have signed him.  But, I'm pretty sure the front office doesn't care.

If Wyc forces the team to finish the season with 14 players, then he's one of the cheapest owners around the NBA. Don't think it is likely to happen though unless we face a massive injury crisis and we tank the season.

Obviously, the front office doesn't care what each and every fan wants. Since when did that prevent us from criticizing the front office / expressing our opinion? If the offseason was based upon what I wanted, we would have traded anybody but the Jays + multiple picks for Ben Simmons.

Does it matter what we want?

And regardless of what we want, is there all that much value or team quality lost by not having your 15th man on the roster. For instance, are the C's all that much worse a team if Jabari and Edwards or Dunn and Edwards not on the team this year? I don't think so.

Personally speaking, I find it weird when fans care more about Wyc's money than they do about the success of their favorite team. It's one thing to say that Wyc won't pay a record-breaking tax for an underachieving team, it's a different thing to want to sabotage the team in order for Wyc to save money.

Are you sabotaging the team by only carrying 14 guys? How often are the 15th rotational piece a contributor to the team that a two way player can't fill? I think the answer is close to never.

Couple years back the team went with 14 guys almost the whole year and, if memory serves me, picked up Greg Monroe late in the season and he contributed next to nothing the rest of that year.

14 players? 15? There is little difference and it certainly wouldn't sabotage a team.

''Couple of years back the team went with 14 guys almost the whole year'' cause we were waiting to use our $8.4 million Disabled Player Exception (we got it cause Hayward broke his foot). Monroe was the best available free agent via the buyout market. He failed to meet expectations, but we did the best we could to strengthen the roster.

Are you sabotaging the team by only carrying 14 guys?

Of course you are. The NBA allows teams to have up to 15 players (plus the 2-way contracts). If an owner wants to pay 14 players in order to save money, then he's sabotaging his team's success. Remember Shane Larkin? He was our 3rd/4th string PG in 2018 (that was the year we got Monroe), yet he proved to be a valuable player when Kyrie got injured.

the likelihood a team is carrying 14 players to save money vs keeping an open spot to bring in a buy-out or TPE candidate later in the season is minimal.  what examples do you have of teams carrying 14 players purely for the financial savings?