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If only our rookie GM hadn't jumped the gun with the Kemba trade. It seems like the Sixers might settle for picks unless Beal or Lillard becomes available. Kemba + Smart + multiple picks might have put us in the conversation. Never understood why Brad didn't wait till draft night. I miss Danny already.
That said, we can still do it. Smart + Fournier (signed and traded) + multiple firsts for Simmons. Couldn't care less about the picks. A big 3 of Tatum, Brown and Simmons would transform the C's into a legit contending team for years to come. I really believe the C's would be the perfect situation for Simmons.
It's a very real possibility that Stevens doesn't like Simmons, which seems to be the consensus around the league given the lack of offers the Sixers are able to receive for him.
It's not just Simmons. Most deals happen on draft night/at the deadline for a reason. Teams are unwilling to lower their asking price prior to the draft night unless they are desperate to make a trade. It's when they run out of time on draft night that they finally compromise regarding their asking price. To put it another way, trade negotiations are like the game of chicken. Whomever backs down first loses the game. The C's backed down way too early and they got fleeced. Hate to say it, but our rookie GM made a rookie mistake.
The thing you haven't explained is why OKC would have more pressure on draft night? They are the ones offering to take the pressure off the teams that need to do something. They've sold off cap space multiple times. They weren't shopping around Horford, anxious to make a deal right away. They are years away from needing to do anything.
Horford and OKC had a tidy contract that allowed other teams to reduce their max mistakes for a fee.
OKC's leverage would have gone up on draft night, not down.
They wouldn't, but this is irrelevant. They didn't have pressure at the time of the trade either. We were the ones that forced the trade. OKC took Horford in a salary dump and they somehow got a mid first for him! Worst case scenario, I bet they'd still take our offer on draft night. Why wouldn't they? It's amazing value on their part. I mean, they didn't even want him on their team last season. They shut him down 28 games prior to the end of the season.
(Don't get me wrong, I like Horford's game.)
Having trouble following you. You spend several posts explaining that Stevens was a rookie for making an early deal because the C's leverage would improve at draft night. So now you are saying it wouldn't have improved.
You are over exaggerating the price. Brown had a tangible value too. I don't claim it equals a #16, but he is worth a late 1st.
The reason to do it early is found in your general argument. You were half right. Teams want to get deals done on draft night. Its just that OKC wasn't one of them. OKC is lurking around looking to take advantage of those teams, and Horford has a perfect contract, and enough left in the tank to be an ideal guy to swap for a bad max or near max contract.
So, tonight, some other teams may have wanted to do a deal for Horford too.