list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas

[td450]

Smart, Thompson, Edwards for Wiggins, 7

and your proposal for addressing what would be an even bigger gaping hole at starting PG would be?

Davion Mitchell

so...a rookie that's a bit of a reach at 7 with no experienced PG on the roster for him to learn from?  not what I'd go for.

also not thrilled with the idea of taking on Wiggins' deal and causing an even bigger glut at the swing position.  Brown, Tatum, Fournier (assuming he's resigned), Wiggins, Romeo and Nesmith?  having talent is great but man that's a logjam. 

not against moving Smart and TT at all but thinking there's got to be a deal out there that provides more balance to the roster.

Wiggins has some size, so the Hayward approach of no real power forward, but starting three big physical wings would be OK. We would absolutely not need Fournier if we did this, and Mitchell would be a nice fit. He's older, he's a beast on defense, and the team has been operating without a true point for a couple of years already. He's already more of a point than Kemba or Smart is.

Or, you could view this as just a way to improve your asset position. You could do something else with Wiggins and the pick. It does feel like there are a few nice possibilities for a long term power forward around the #7 spot

I just don't see GS taking this deal.

[nickagneta]

Tristan has negative value and would probably have to include a second just to dump his salary. So combine with Smart or a first (or maybe Timelord if a team is high on him).

TT + Smart + 2d for Barnes

TT + Smart + 2022 1st for Lonzo ST

TT + TPE + 2022 1rst for Lowry ST

I like the target player but don’t believe the package would be amenable to Sacramento. But I do think we should revisit the concept of Barnes.

Thompson, Grant, Romeo and a 1st for Barnes. Not sure the salary matching is perfect, but it's close. An expiring, 2 prospects and a 1st? Is it enough for a young team that may not be ready to compete?

overpay.  TT isn't just an expiring.  he's a talented Vet that would help their front court.  would Keep Romeo or the first rounder.  preferably Romeo and substitute Edwards instead.

I think it's actually quite fair value. Barnes has way more value than Thompson, especially to Boston as he is a near perfect fit at the 4 for this team. If Fournier is re-signed, Langford isn't needed

Smart/Pritchard
Brown/Fournier
Tatum/Nesmith
Barnes/Parker
Horford/Timelord/Brown

It gives Boston less youth, an amazing starting 5, a really solid next 5 coming off the bench. And Stevens can use the taxpayer MLE, the trade exceptions and vet min contracts to complete the bench, especially at the large wing/PF and PG areas if Nesmith and Pritchard slump or Parker doesn't work out.

Of course this assumes ownership being okay to go well into the tax.

[Celtics2021]

Tristan Thompson to Portland for Derrick Jones Jr. and 2nds in 2022 and 2027.

[CptZoogs]

Smart, Thompson, Edwards for Wiggins, 7

Would that even work? I'd be ecstatic if I got that return for Smart.

I ran it through the realgm trade checker and it worked, for whatever that’s worth.  I am not sold on the motivation for GS.  Is it just to get out from Wiggins contract?  Seems like the #7 would have more value than that. 

I do wonder if Wiggins could be useful in a potential swap for Beal down the line.

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Tristan has negative value and would probably have to include a second just to dump his salary. So combine with Smart or a first (or maybe Timelord if a team is high on him).

TT + Smart + 2d for Barnes

TT + Smart + 2022 1st for Lonzo ST

TT + TPE + 2022 1rst for Lowry ST

I like the target player but don’t believe the package would be amenable to Sacramento. But I do think we should revisit the concept of Barnes.

Thompson, Grant, Romeo and a 1st for Barnes. Not sure the salary matching is perfect, but it's close. An expiring, 2 prospects and a 1st? Is it enough for a young team that may not be ready to compete?

overpay.  TT isn't just an expiring.  he's a talented Vet that would help their front court.  would Keep Romeo or the first rounder.  preferably Romeo and substitute Edwards instead.

I think it's actually quite fair value. Barnes has way more value than Thompson, especially to Boston as he is a near perfect fit at the 4 for this team. If Fournier is re-signed, Langford isn't needed

Smart/Pritchard
Brown/Fournier
Tatum/Nesmith
Barnes/Parker
Horford/Timelord/Brown

It gives Boston less youth, an amazing starting 5, a really solid next 5 coming off the bench. And Stevens can use the taxpayer MLE, the trade exceptions and vet min contracts to complete the bench, especially at the large wing/PF and PG areas if Nesmith and Pritchard slump or Parker doesn't work out.

Of course this assumes ownership being okay to go well into the tax.

If you keep Smart I like going after Barnes.  Good 3 point shooter, can stretch the floor along with Al and the Js.  4 good 3 point shooters hopefully limit Smarts bad 3s a little bit.  Makes Smart focus on being the quarterback along with Al.

Would much rather have HB versus Wiggins. 

[tstorey_97]

I like what someone else proposed:

TT and Smart to Charlotte for Rozier.

I think Rozier would be a phenomenal upgrade, and would fit right in to our team.  He has become a very efficient guard, and can defend quicker guards that Smart cannot. 

Rozier
Brown
Fournier
Tatum
R Williams/A Horford

Me, me, me... I posted it...

What’s a guy gotta do for a TP around here? LOL

 Here's a TP bro. Although begging is frowned upon u deserve one

TP to KG for compassion shown to fellow poster.

[tstorey_97]

Not aiming for buzz kill here...would love to have Barnes and some of the other options posted...but...in a value test won't Stevens be able to get more for Thompson at the deadline this season? He can start playoff games.

Or, if he walks at the end of this season, is the $9M of cap worth more to Stevens 2022/23? You know? As we saddle up for the Embiid (or whomever) sweepstakes and yet another title?

I will admit:

Starting NBA PG
Brown
Tatum
Barnes/Horford/Robert

Looks almost like a 2 seed getting ready to beat the Kyrieless Nets in the finals. (I predict Kyrie will have to attend someone's birthday or a movie shoot next June).

[Moranis]

Smart, Thompson, Edwards for Wiggins, 7

and your proposal for addressing what would be an even bigger gaping hole at starting PG would be?

Davion Mitchell

so...a rookie that's a bit of a reach at 7 with no experienced PG on the roster for him to learn from?  not what I'd go for.

also not thrilled with the idea of taking on Wiggins' deal and causing an even bigger glut at the swing position.  Brown, Tatum, Fournier (assuming he's resigned), Wiggins, Romeo and Nesmith?  having talent is great but man that's a logjam. 

not against moving Smart and TT at all but thinking there's got to be a deal out there that provides more balance to the roster.

Mitchell isn't a reach at that spot at all.  That is around where he has been going in mocks.  ESPN put up a mock after the lottery and had GS taking Mitchell at 7, for example.

You do that trade you don't bring back Fournier and save the money.  You do this trade about adding a top 10 pick and hoping that player is a hit.  Gives the team a real chance at a 3rd foundational piece that the C's otherwise don't have.

PG - Mitchell, Pritchard
SG - Brown, Langford
SF - Wiggins, Nesmith
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams
C - Horford, R. Williams, Brown

So that is the only 12 under contract for next year if you do the trade, with 3 open roster spots, which could be used on Ojeleye, Kornet, and of course Founier.  They are under the tax, so they can add to the team some with that trade, though can't go crazy as Wiggins and Mitchell do make more than Smart, Thompson, and Edwards.  Or they could just suck it up and pay the tax. 

As for why GS might do that, they want to win a title next year and I absolutely believe that Smart and Thompson will help them more to do that than Wiggins and the rookie at 7 would, plus it saves them like 10 million off the cap (this year and like 35 million next year), which is huge given their tax situation.  GS still has 14 so they will still be adding a lottery pick to the roster, but a starting 5 of Curry, Klay, Smart, Green, and Wiseman with Oubre (if they bring him back), Tristan, Looney, 14, Poole, Paschall, etc. is probably right there with the best teams in the league if Klay looks like old Klay and they otherwise stay relatively healthy. 

[slamtheking]

Smart, Thompson, Edwards for Wiggins, 7

and your proposal for addressing what would be an even bigger gaping hole at starting PG would be?

Davion Mitchell

so...a rookie that's a bit of a reach at 7 with no experienced PG on the roster for him to learn from?  not what I'd go for.

also not thrilled with the idea of taking on Wiggins' deal and causing an even bigger glut at the swing position.  Brown, Tatum, Fournier (assuming he's resigned), Wiggins, Romeo and Nesmith?  having talent is great but man that's a logjam. 

not against moving Smart and TT at all but thinking there's got to be a deal out there that provides more balance to the roster.

Mitchell isn't a reach at that spot at all.  That is around where he has been going in mocks.  ESPN put up a mock after the lottery and had GS taking Mitchell at 7, for example.

You do that trade you don't bring back Fournier and save the money.  You do this trade about adding a top 10 pick and hoping that player is a hit.  Gives the team a real chance at a 3rd foundational piece that the C's otherwise don't have.

PG - Mitchell, Pritchard
SG - Brown, Langford
SF - Wiggins, Nesmith
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams
C - Horford, R. Williams, Brown

So that is the only 12 under contract for next year if you do the trade, with 3 open roster spots, which could be used on Ojeleye, Kornet, and of course Founier.  They are under the tax, so they can add to the team some with that trade, though can't go crazy as Wiggins and Mitchell do make more than Smart, Thompson, and Edwards.  Or they could just suck it up and pay the tax. 

As for why GS might do that, they want to win a title next year and I absolutely believe that Smart and Thompson will help them more to do that than Wiggins and the rookie at 7 would, plus it saves them like 10 million off the cap (this year and like 35 million next year), which is huge given their tax situation.  GS still has 14 so they will still be adding a lottery pick to the roster, but a starting 5 of Curry, Klay, Smart, Green, and Wiseman with Oubre (if they bring him back), Tristan, Looney, 14, Poole, Paschall, etc. is probably right there with the best teams in the league if Klay looks like old Klay and they otherwise stay relatively healthy.

so the idea is to punt next season hoping Mitchell is relatively good for PG the following season and that Langford, Nesmith and Pritchard have another year of development while making another franchise another contender?

not ideal for the C's though I can see why GSW might find that appealing

[Moranis]

Smart, Thompson, Edwards for Wiggins, 7

and your proposal for addressing what would be an even bigger gaping hole at starting PG would be?

Davion Mitchell

so...a rookie that's a bit of a reach at 7 with no experienced PG on the roster for him to learn from?  not what I'd go for.

also not thrilled with the idea of taking on Wiggins' deal and causing an even bigger glut at the swing position.  Brown, Tatum, Fournier (assuming he's resigned), Wiggins, Romeo and Nesmith?  having talent is great but man that's a logjam. 

not against moving Smart and TT at all but thinking there's got to be a deal out there that provides more balance to the roster.

Mitchell isn't a reach at that spot at all.  That is around where he has been going in mocks.  ESPN put up a mock after the lottery and had GS taking Mitchell at 7, for example.

You do that trade you don't bring back Fournier and save the money.  You do this trade about adding a top 10 pick and hoping that player is a hit.  Gives the team a real chance at a 3rd foundational piece that the C's otherwise don't have.

PG - Mitchell, Pritchard
SG - Brown, Langford
SF - Wiggins, Nesmith
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams
C - Horford, R. Williams, Brown

So that is the only 12 under contract for next year if you do the trade, with 3 open roster spots, which could be used on Ojeleye, Kornet, and of course Founier.  They are under the tax, so they can add to the team some with that trade, though can't go crazy as Wiggins and Mitchell do make more than Smart, Thompson, and Edwards.  Or they could just suck it up and pay the tax. 

As for why GS might do that, they want to win a title next year and I absolutely believe that Smart and Thompson will help them more to do that than Wiggins and the rookie at 7 would, plus it saves them like 10 million off the cap (this year and like 35 million next year), which is huge given their tax situation.  GS still has 14 so they will still be adding a lottery pick to the roster, but a starting 5 of Curry, Klay, Smart, Green, and Wiseman with Oubre (if they bring him back), Tristan, Looney, 14, Poole, Paschall, etc. is probably right there with the best teams in the league if Klay looks like old Klay and they otherwise stay relatively healthy.

so the idea is to punt next season hoping Mitchell is relatively good for PG the following season and that Langford, Nesmith and Pritchard have another year of development while making another franchise another contender?

not ideal for the C's though I can see why GSW might find that appealing

We aren't going to contend next season anyway so there is no real point in getting nominally better to lose in the 2nd round to a team like the Nets or Bucks.  The goal should be to maximize Tatum and Brown's window and that window really doesn't open for another couple of seasons. 

[PAOBoston]

Smart, Thompson, Edwards for Wiggins, 7

and your proposal for addressing what would be an even bigger gaping hole at starting PG would be?

Davion Mitchell

so...a rookie that's a bit of a reach at 7 with no experienced PG on the roster for him to learn from?  not what I'd go for.

also not thrilled with the idea of taking on Wiggins' deal and causing an even bigger glut at the swing position.  Brown, Tatum, Fournier (assuming he's resigned), Wiggins, Romeo and Nesmith?  having talent is great but man that's a logjam. 

not against moving Smart and TT at all but thinking there's got to be a deal out there that provides more balance to the roster.

Mitchell isn't a reach at that spot at all.  That is around where he has been going in mocks.  ESPN put up a mock after the lottery and had GS taking Mitchell at 7, for example.

You do that trade you don't bring back Fournier and save the money.  You do this trade about adding a top 10 pick and hoping that player is a hit.  Gives the team a real chance at a 3rd foundational piece that the C's otherwise don't have.

PG - Mitchell, Pritchard
SG - Brown, Langford
SF - Wiggins, Nesmith
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams
C - Horford, R. Williams, Brown

So that is the only 12 under contract for next year if you do the trade, with 3 open roster spots, which could be used on Ojeleye, Kornet, and of course Founier.  They are under the tax, so they can add to the team some with that trade, though can't go crazy as Wiggins and Mitchell do make more than Smart, Thompson, and Edwards.  Or they could just suck it up and pay the tax. 

As for why GS might do that, they want to win a title next year and I absolutely believe that Smart and Thompson will help them more to do that than Wiggins and the rookie at 7 would, plus it saves them like 10 million off the cap (this year and like 35 million next year), which is huge given their tax situation.  GS still has 14 so they will still be adding a lottery pick to the roster, but a starting 5 of Curry, Klay, Smart, Green, and Wiseman with Oubre (if they bring him back), Tristan, Looney, 14, Poole, Paschall, etc. is probably right there with the best teams in the league if Klay looks like old Klay and they otherwise stay relatively healthy.

so the idea is to punt next season hoping Mitchell is relatively good for PG the following season and that Langford, Nesmith and Pritchard have another year of development while making another franchise another contender?

not ideal for the C's though I can see why GSW might find that appealing

We aren't going to contend next season anyway so there is no real point in getting nominally better to lose in the 2nd round to a team like the Nets or Bucks.  The goal should be to maximize Tatum and Brown's window and that window really doesn't open for another couple of seasons.

Maximizing their window by wasting a year of their window? Cs need to add more ready players. Enough of the projects that currently litter this roster. They have enough projects and young guys who need development. If they are going to trade Smart or TT, it better be for a ready to play playe me rather than another rookie/project.

[slamtheking]

Smart, Thompson, Edwards for Wiggins, 7

and your proposal for addressing what would be an even bigger gaping hole at starting PG would be?

Davion Mitchell

so...a rookie that's a bit of a reach at 7 with no experienced PG on the roster for him to learn from?  not what I'd go for.

also not thrilled with the idea of taking on Wiggins' deal and causing an even bigger glut at the swing position.  Brown, Tatum, Fournier (assuming he's resigned), Wiggins, Romeo and Nesmith?  having talent is great but man that's a logjam. 

not against moving Smart and TT at all but thinking there's got to be a deal out there that provides more balance to the roster.

Mitchell isn't a reach at that spot at all.  That is around where he has been going in mocks.  ESPN put up a mock after the lottery and had GS taking Mitchell at 7, for example.

You do that trade you don't bring back Fournier and save the money.  You do this trade about adding a top 10 pick and hoping that player is a hit.  Gives the team a real chance at a 3rd foundational piece that the C's otherwise don't have.

PG - Mitchell, Pritchard
SG - Brown, Langford
SF - Wiggins, Nesmith
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams
C - Horford, R. Williams, Brown

So that is the only 12 under contract for next year if you do the trade, with 3 open roster spots, which could be used on Ojeleye, Kornet, and of course Founier.  They are under the tax, so they can add to the team some with that trade, though can't go crazy as Wiggins and Mitchell do make more than Smart, Thompson, and Edwards.  Or they could just suck it up and pay the tax. 

As for why GS might do that, they want to win a title next year and I absolutely believe that Smart and Thompson will help them more to do that than Wiggins and the rookie at 7 would, plus it saves them like 10 million off the cap (this year and like 35 million next year), which is huge given their tax situation.  GS still has 14 so they will still be adding a lottery pick to the roster, but a starting 5 of Curry, Klay, Smart, Green, and Wiseman with Oubre (if they bring him back), Tristan, Looney, 14, Poole, Paschall, etc. is probably right there with the best teams in the league if Klay looks like old Klay and they otherwise stay relatively healthy.

so the idea is to punt next season hoping Mitchell is relatively good for PG the following season and that Langford, Nesmith and Pritchard have another year of development while making another franchise another contender?

not ideal for the C's though I can see why GSW might find that appealing

We aren't going to contend next season anyway so there is no real point in getting nominally better to lose in the 2nd round to a team like the Nets or Bucks.  The goal should be to maximize Tatum and Brown's window and that window really doesn't open for another couple of seasons.

if you're loading up the wing position that heavily and bringing in Horford, I think punting on the season is very premature or thinking they cannot contend with a healthier roster.

[CptZoogs]

Smart, Thompson, Edwards for Wiggins, 7

and your proposal for addressing what would be an even bigger gaping hole at starting PG would be?

Davion Mitchell

so...a rookie that's a bit of a reach at 7 with no experienced PG on the roster for him to learn from?  not what I'd go for.

also not thrilled with the idea of taking on Wiggins' deal and causing an even bigger glut at the swing position.  Brown, Tatum, Fournier (assuming he's resigned), Wiggins, Romeo and Nesmith?  having talent is great but man that's a logjam. 

not against moving Smart and TT at all but thinking there's got to be a deal out there that provides more balance to the roster.

Mitchell isn't a reach at that spot at all.  That is around where he has been going in mocks.  ESPN put up a mock after the lottery and had GS taking Mitchell at 7, for example.

You do that trade you don't bring back Fournier and save the money.  You do this trade about adding a top 10 pick and hoping that player is a hit.  Gives the team a real chance at a 3rd foundational piece that the C's otherwise don't have.

PG - Mitchell, Pritchard
SG - Brown, Langford
SF - Wiggins, Nesmith
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams
C - Horford, R. Williams, Brown

So that is the only 12 under contract for next year if you do the trade, with 3 open roster spots, which could be used on Ojeleye, Kornet, and of course Founier.  They are under the tax, so they can add to the team some with that trade, though can't go crazy as Wiggins and Mitchell do make more than Smart, Thompson, and Edwards.  Or they could just suck it up and pay the tax. 

As for why GS might do that, they want to win a title next year and I absolutely believe that Smart and Thompson will help them more to do that than Wiggins and the rookie at 7 would, plus it saves them like 10 million off the cap (this year and like 35 million next year), which is huge given their tax situation.  GS still has 14 so they will still be adding a lottery pick to the roster, but a starting 5 of Curry, Klay, Smart, Green, and Wiseman with Oubre (if they bring him back), Tristan, Looney, 14, Poole, Paschall, etc. is probably right there with the best teams in the league if Klay looks like old Klay and they otherwise stay relatively healthy.

so the idea is to punt next season hoping Mitchell is relatively good for PG the following season and that Langford, Nesmith and Pritchard have another year of development while making another franchise another contender?

not ideal for the C's though I can see why GSW might find that appealing

We aren't going to contend next season anyway so there is no real point in getting nominally better to lose in the 2nd round to a team like the Nets or Bucks.  The goal should be to maximize Tatum and Brown's window and that window really doesn't open for another couple of seasons.

 If we could build a package for Beal round Wiggins and picks/young guys, I would be for this.  There could also be a good market for the 7th pick if Celtics don’t see a point guard solution at 7.

[arctic 3.0]

I think TT (and a protected pick) for slo-mo is realistic and adds significant value to the team.

Just makes to much sense, Memphis has two promising young power forwards and no center depth.
The c’s would have three above average passers to man the 4/5
With Slow Mo starting at the 4 C’s could start either Rob or Al and always have a passing big on the court.
Slow Mo can stretch the floor as well so you could pair either he or Al with Moses

[RJ87]

Looking around the league there are a few teams I think would obviously benefit from adding Thompson.


Raptors, could be an upgrade over Khem Birch and Baynes (maybe build a trade around Baynes non-guarantee and a future pick? 

Lakers, would be a better fit next to AD then Drummond, Harrell, or Gasol (no idea how they make any deals)

Mavericks, feels like a roster that needs a tougher vet presence (doubt they move him but maybe a TT +??for Kleiber based trade?)

Hornets, center was the glaring weak spot in their rotation (not sure what they offer)

Knicks, Thompson feels like a Thibs player and would be Mitchel health insurance if they don't retain Noel (maybe they absorb his salary into their cap space and send the Cs the #32 pick?)

 

I'd kick the tires on a TT+Carsen for Kyle Kuzma type of deal with the Lakers. Not sure what draft compensation would be needed, but Kuzma could be interesting on this team as a switchy defender.