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Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2021, 12:46:10 PM »

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Which teams have TPEs? 

Thompson + two second rounders for Kyle Anderson

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Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2021, 12:48:25 PM »

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Tristan has negative value and would probably have to include a second just to dump his salary.

I'll just mention this, we have NO REASON to dump Tristan (for financial reasons). The only reason to trade him would be because we decide to make moves that would hard cap us (moves that would improve our positions, so he'd be expendable) or to grab a better player than him, if we need to give more assets to get the player so be it.

But we have no real need to dump Tristan, only if hard cap becomes an issue.

At worst he's an expiring contract that sometimes has value for other teams in need of it, or for a team that needs big man depth and can't find any takers so a short deal is preferred.

We have 3 reasons to dump his contract : we have 4 Bigs to play and reallisticly in modern NBA we can't combine any of them, Thompson eats our MLE as we need a PG or/and a PF and (maybe) TT was one locker room problem, as I and onther supects him to be the insider + behavior problems during seasons (and the eye test didn't his integration in the right team)

The first reason you listed is not a reason to dump him. It's a reason to trade him, but not to dump him. And if not trade is found, you keep him.

The second reason, I'm not sure that's true at all. I think we have enough room to fit the full MLE while keeping Tristan. I could be wrong, but I think we have wiggle room still. But I think using the full MLE hard caps us, so that falls into one of the reasons I gave for moving him, but that presumes we do go after someone worth the full MLE.

The last 2 reasons are speculative, and only the front office really knows. If it doesn't hurt us financially (to make moves), I rather send him home and keep the trade asset.

I'm not a fan of Thompson, let me just mention that and I'm in favor of moving him... I just hate to use the term "dump" him as if we had a real need to get rid of him. Unless certain circumstances present themselves, I don't see the need for it.

I just want to make the distinction of putting him on the trading block vs. looking to dump him (which often times mean financial flexibility with low returns at the cost of a pick potentially).
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Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2021, 12:56:55 PM »

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Assuming S and T....NO signs Lonzo Ball to 3 yr/$20m/$60m or 4 yr/$20m/$80m.

I would involve Thompson, Smart, and even a pick (preferably a second-round pick, but this team is young enough to part with another late 1st round pick if necessary) in some type of trade to acquire Ball and reduce payroll to sign Fournier.

With R.Williams, A. Horford, and now M. Brown, Thompson is not needed.

I am a big Smart fan as I appreciate his defense, first to the floor, take a charge, style of play. I just believe a pass-first PG, who is a better shooter than Smart, and a good defender is better for a team that is looking to build around JB and JT.

Ball, Fournier, Brown, Tatum, Williams is a better team than last year's team or even a team with Marcus Smart at the 1.

I keep coming back to Ball as I don't believe there is a better PG for THIS team who can be acquired at a reasonable price via FA, using TPE, etc that won't cost you more than Smart and Thompson (e.g. Lillard, Paul, et al will have high salaries or require JB/RW).  Guys like Westbrook and even Beal will only take shots away from JB and JT. I'd rather keep Smart and have PP as the backup than pick up an average veteran PG just to use the TPE to address the PG position.

A 2021 team of Ball, Fournier, Brown, Tatum, Williams can only get better in 2022 when Big Al's contract is significantly lower/gone and can be used to strengthen the center position and/or bench depending on R.Wiliams ability to stay healthy.


Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2021, 12:59:55 PM »

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Tristan has negative value and would probably have to include a second just to dump his salary.

I'll just mention this, we have NO REASON to dump Tristan (for financial reasons). The only reason to trade him would be because we decide to make moves that would hard cap us (moves that would improve our positions, so he'd be expendable) or to grab a better player than him, if we need to give more assets to get the player so be it.

But we have no real need to dump Tristan, only if hard cap becomes an issue.

At worst he's an expiring contract that sometimes has value for other teams in need of it, or for a team that needs big man depth and can't find any takers so a short deal is preferred.

We have 3 reasons to dump his contract : we have 4 Bigs to play and reallisticly in modern NBA we can't combine any of them, Thompson eats our MLE as we need a PG or/and a PF and (maybe) TT was one locker room problem, as I and onther supects him to be the insider + behavior problems during seasons (and the eye test didn't his integration in the right team)

The first reason you listed is not a reason to dump him. It's a reason to trade him, but not to dump him. And if not trade is found, you keep him.

The second reason, I'm not sure that's true at all. I think we have enough room to fit the full MLE while keeping Tristan. I could be wrong, but I think we have wiggle room still. But I think using the full MLE hard caps us, so that falls into one of the reasons I gave for moving him, but that presumes we do go after someone worth the full MLE.

The last 2 reasons are speculative, and only the front office really knows.

I'm not a fan of Thompson, let me just mention that and I'm in favor of moving him... I just hate to use the term "dump" him as if we had a real need to get rid of him. Unless certain circumstances present themselves, I don't see the need for it.

Sorry for the "dump" word, but if you prefer "get rid of his contract" ... :)

To resume he takes 9M which is quiet a lot and may be used for a PG/PF, very probably won't play -the Moses Brown trade is I guess the proof we won't keep him as the 3rd big where he woyl d be unhappy and poising. 9M we have to use on another guy I think. If not traded he will be cut for nothing I guess...

For the integration on the team, yeah there is no proof, but some smoke and the fact he was cibled in the Walker trade as much as Kemba, like if he was a liability for the team in Stevens mind. But that may be wrong I recognize (during long time I was a TT supporter)

Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2021, 01:14:25 PM »

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Tristan has negative value and would probably have to include a second just to dump his salary.

I'll just mention this, we have NO REASON to dump Tristan (for financial reasons). The only reason to trade him would be because we decide to make moves that would hard cap us (moves that would improve our positions, so he'd be expendable) or to grab a better player than him, if we need to give more assets to get the player so be it.

But we have no real need to dump Tristan, only if hard cap becomes an issue.

At worst he's an expiring contract that sometimes has value for other teams in need of it, or for a team that needs big man depth and can't find any takers so a short deal is preferred.

We have 3 reasons to dump his contract : we have 4 Bigs to play and reallisticly in modern NBA we can't combine any of them, Thompson eats our MLE as we need a PG or/and a PF and (maybe) TT was one locker room problem, as I and onther supects him to be the insider + behavior problems during seasons (and the eye test didn't his integration in the right team)

The first reason you listed is not a reason to dump him. It's a reason to trade him, but not to dump him. And if not trade is found, you keep him.

The second reason, I'm not sure that's true at all. I think we have enough room to fit the full MLE while keeping Tristan. I could be wrong, but I think we have wiggle room still. But I think using the full MLE hard caps us, so that falls into one of the reasons I gave for moving him, but that presumes we do go after someone worth the full MLE.

The last 2 reasons are speculative, and only the front office really knows.

I'm not a fan of Thompson, let me just mention that and I'm in favor of moving him... I just hate to use the term "dump" him as if we had a real need to get rid of him. Unless certain circumstances present themselves, I don't see the need for it.

Sorry for the "dump" word, but if you prefer "get rid of his contract" ... :)

To resume he takes 9M which is quiet a lot and may be used for a PG/PF, very probably won't play -the Moses Brown trade is I guess the proof we won't keep him as the 3rd big where he woyl d be unhappy and poising. 9M we have to use on another guy I think. If not traded he will be cut for nothing I guess...

For the integration on the team, yeah there is no proof, but some smoke and the fact he was cibled in the Walker trade as much as Kemba, like if he was a liability for the team in Stevens mind. But that may be wrong I recognize (during long time I was a TT supporter)

I edited a bit to clarify, but unless Thompson's contract prevents us from signing someone or making a trade, I think it's more valuable to keep his expiring contract. I'll leave it at that, but we should be aggressive in trying to trade of that I have little doubt. Just not sure, at this point, if it's a financial problem for us... couldn't care less if he plays or not.
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Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2021, 01:17:35 PM »

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Which teams have TPEs? 

Thompson + two second rounders for Kyle Anderson

TP. Exactly what I came here to propose. Every since I heard the Celtics were interested in Anderson (not sure how much validity there is to the rumor) I’ve been watching Anderson highlights and I really like what I see - capable of handling the ball, playing good D, and knocking down shots. How is he at guarding bigger 3’s/4’s though?

Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2021, 01:34:13 PM »

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I like what someone else proposed:

TT and Smart to Charlotte for Rozier.

I think Rozier would be a phenomenal upgrade, and would fit right in to our team.  He has become a very efficient guard, and can defend quicker guards that Smart cannot. 

Rozier
Brown
Fournier
Tatum
R Williams/A Horford

Me, me, me... I posted it...

What’s a guy gotta do for a TP around here? LOL



 Here's a TP bro. Although begging is frowned upon u deserve one

Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2021, 01:59:46 PM »

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Which teams have TPEs? 

Thompson + two second rounders for Kyle Anderson

TP. Exactly what I came here to propose. Every since I heard the Celtics were interested in Anderson (not sure how much validity there is to the rumor) I’ve been watching Anderson highlights and I really like what I see - capable of handling the ball, playing good D, and knocking down shots. How is he at guarding bigger 3’s/4’s though?

Seems like the right question.

To me, the best thing we can do (short of adding a third major star) is to get a SF/PF who can guard up in size and give us the option of  playing Jaylen and Jayson at the 2-3. Then you could have good length and skill from 1-4 - no weak points for other teams to hunt. Anderson has the size to guard up, at 6’9” 230, but like you I don’t know about his defensive ability.

For sure his shooting, passing, and secondary creation skills would come in handy.

Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2021, 02:11:36 PM »

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Which teams have TPEs? 

Thompson + two second rounders for Kyle Anderson

TP. Exactly what I came here to propose. Every since I heard the Celtics were interested in Anderson (not sure how much validity there is to the rumor) I’ve been watching Anderson highlights and I really like what I see - capable of handling the ball, playing good D, and knocking down shots. How is he at guarding bigger 3’s/4’s though?

He's also Memphis' starting 4, so it's going to take a lot more than Thompson and some seconds to shake him loose.

Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2021, 03:30:59 PM »

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Which teams have TPEs? 

Thompson + two second rounders for Kyle Anderson

TP. Exactly what I came here to propose. Every since I heard the Celtics were interested in Anderson (not sure how much validity there is to the rumor) I’ve been watching Anderson highlights and I really like what I see - capable of handling the ball, playing good D, and knocking down shots. How is he at guarding bigger 3’s/4’s though?

He's also Memphis' starting 4, so it's going to take a lot more than Thompson and some seconds to shake him loose.

That’s most likely true, unfortunately. And no idea whether Memphis wants a marginal center as a backup for JJJ. TT doesn’t seem to fit their grit and grind persona…

Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2021, 05:06:20 PM »

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I don't think we should be too quick to send him packing.

He's got the right contact and there is no way we don't have multiple weeks next session where both Williams and Horford on on the DL. Then we are down to Grant and D leaguer we got from OKC.

Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2021, 05:34:59 PM »

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Trade him and assets for Larry Nance Jr or Kyle Anderson.

Cavs don't want him back

I can't see why Spurs would trade for him.... unless its the 2nds = really after

Really want Nance. I think he’d be a perfect 4 for us and woukd make a nice 3 big rotation with Timelord and Al.

I think we can get him with our biggest TPE remaining, but not sure what he’s cost beyond that.
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Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2021, 06:24:17 PM »

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Here’s my list of candidates to look at with a TT trade or with 11 mil TPE.

11M TPE Targets and/or Tristan Thompson trade targets: Larry Nance Jr. (2/20) / Kyle Anderson (10) / Tomas Satoransky (10) / George Hill (10) / Royce O’Neal (3/27) / Justin Holiday (2/12) / Maxi Kleber (2/18) / Dario Saric (2/18), Delon Wright (8.5), Monte Morris (3/27), Rajon Rondo (7.5)

Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2021, 06:36:03 PM »

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Tristan Thompson and Grant Williams or Romeo Langford for Derrick White and a future second.

Re: list your Tristan Thompson trade ideas
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2021, 06:49:22 PM »

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Tristan has negative value and would probably have to include a second just to dump his salary. So combine with Smart or a first (or maybe Timelord if a team is high on him).

TT + Smart + 2d for Barnes

TT + Smart + 2022 1st for Lonzo ST

TT + TPE + 2022 1rst for Lowry ST

I like the target player but don’t believe the package would be amenable to Sacramento. But I do think we should revisit the concept of Barnes.