Nets Growing Tired of Kyrie Antics

[PAOBoston]

If I were Brooklyn I would 100% flip him, he's too unreliable with his injuries and his mental make-up for the Nets with their limited window

After his history of flaking out in CLE/BOS/BRK, who would be willing to fork up real assets for Kyrie at this point? He’s a talented player but dude has some serious BAGGAGE. Think any time would seriously think hard about trading for him.

Clippers and Knicks would I think.  Not that they have great assets to trade, but they'd certainly trade what they could.

The Clippers for example could do something like Mann, Zubac, Morris, Beverley for Irving, Jordan.  The Nets then re-sign Dinwiddie

Dinwiddie, Harden, Harris, Durant, Zubac - Green, Claxton, Griffin, Morris, Mann, Shamet, Beverley

That is pretty clearly a title contender and has a lot more depth to withstand the load management of Harden and Durant.

Considering how combustible Kyrie is, I honestly don’t buy that. Not sure how keen other teams will be to trade for him. Also, how would Kyrie react? Dude might literally just not show up.

[obnoxiousmime]

They're going to lose Dinwiddie if they keep Irving, so I'm sure they're fantasizing about somehow trading Kyrie for something good and keeping Dinwiddie at a cheaper deal. Of course, it all depends on Durant. I doubt Durant would give them the OK, but maybe there's other stuff we don't know about.

[Rikibellevie]

I’m not sure I buy this.  They undoubtedly are frustrated by his flakiness, but they also were a Kyrie ankle roll from a probable championship.

If they continue to win, they’ll put up with him.

Yes but what are the chances they all three stay healthy when we know their injury prone ? How many time Harden will accept to be the third wheel ? When Kyrie break his mind again ? This team is one KD injury to implode and be one of the biggest bust, after medias and many fans were sure they would win it all. This time I am happy to have had the right feeling.

[Muzzy66]

If I were Brooklyn I would 100% flip him, he's too unreliable with his injuries and his mental make-up for the Nets with their limited window

After his history of flaking out in CLE/BOS/BRK, who would be willing to fork up real assets for Kyrie at this point? He’s a talented player but dude has some serious BAGGAGE. Think any time would seriously think hard about trading for him.

There'd be suitors. Nobody is untradeable in the NBA.

Heck, John Wall got traded

I'd rather trade for John Wall then Kyrie any day

[gouki88]

If I were Brooklyn I would 100% flip him, he's too unreliable with his injuries and his mental make-up for the Nets with their limited window

After his history of flaking out in CLE/BOS/BRK, who would be willing to fork up real assets for Kyrie at this point? He’s a talented player but dude has some serious BAGGAGE. Think any time would seriously think hard about trading for him.

There'd be suitors. Nobody is untradeable in the NBA.

Heck, John Wall got traded

I'd rather trade for John Wall then Kyrie any day

That's fair enough, but there's a reason why one is a champion and is on a winning team and the other is on a bottom-feeder

[Rikibellevie]

If I were Brooklyn I would 100% flip him, he's too unreliable with his injuries and his mental make-up for the Nets with their limited window

After his history of flaking out in CLE/BOS/BRK, who would be willing to fork up real assets for Kyrie at this point? He’s a talented player but dude has some serious BAGGAGE. Think any time would seriously think hard about trading for him.

There'd be suitors. Nobody is untradeable in the NBA.

Heck, John Wall got traded

I'd rather trade for John Wall then Kyrie any day

That's fair enough, but there's a reason why one is a champion and is on a winning team and the other is on a bottom-feeder

Yes the reason is that one is playing with KD and Harden and the other with Wood and Porte Jr ? I get that Kyrie is a better player than Wall at this stage, but at leats he doesn't quit the team each time a problem happen.

Kyrie of course is tradable, but they won't baring what his value is and the hope they have their big 3 toogether next year. But I am still almost sure things will turn bad for them, again and again. And then Harden, Kryrie and even Durant (who is uncriticable as a player) will have their legacy deacresed by there superteam time in BKN. Well done.

[gouki88]

If I were Brooklyn I would 100% flip him, he's too unreliable with his injuries and his mental make-up for the Nets with their limited window

After his history of flaking out in CLE/BOS/BRK, who would be willing to fork up real assets for Kyrie at this point? He’s a talented player but dude has some serious BAGGAGE. Think any time would seriously think hard about trading for him.

There'd be suitors. Nobody is untradeable in the NBA.

Heck, John Wall got traded

I'd rather trade for John Wall then Kyrie any day

That's fair enough, but there's a reason why one is a champion and is on a winning team and the other is on a bottom-feeder

Yes the reason is that one is playing with KD and Harden and the other with Wood and Porte Jr ? I get that Kyrie is a better player than Wall at this stage, but at leats he doesn't quit the team each time a problem happen.

Kyrie of course is tradable, but they won't baring what his value is and the hope they have their big 3 toogether next year. But I am still almost sure things will turn bad for them, again and again. And then Harden, Kryrie and even Durant (who is uncriticable as a player) will have their legacy deacresed by there superteam time in BKN. Well done.

No, it's the fact that Kyrie - despite being made of glass - is an ironman compared to Wall, and he seems to get along better with star players, hence they want to team up with him. Kyrie gets the NBA game from the perspective of a colluding player.

He also makes nearly $10m less despite being the superior player

[Rikibellevie]

If I were Brooklyn I would 100% flip him, he's too unreliable with his injuries and his mental make-up for the Nets with their limited window

After his history of flaking out in CLE/BOS/BRK, who would be willing to fork up real assets for Kyrie at this point? He’s a talented player but dude has some serious BAGGAGE. Think any time would seriously think hard about trading for him.

There'd be suitors. Nobody is untradeable in the NBA.

Heck, John Wall got traded

I'd rather trade for John Wall then Kyrie any day

That's fair enough, but there's a reason why one is a champion and is on a winning team and the other is on a bottom-feeder

Yes the reason is that one is playing with KD and Harden and the other with Wood and Porte Jr ? I get that Kyrie is a better player than Wall at this stage, but at leats he doesn't quit the team each time a problem happen.

Kyrie of course is tradable, but they won't baring what his value is and the hope they have their big 3 toogether next year. But I am still almost sure things will turn bad for them, again and again. And then Harden, Kryrie and even Durant (who is uncriticable as a player) will have their legacy deacresed by there superteam time in BKN. Well done.

No, it's the fact that Kyrie - despite being made of glass - is an ironman compared to Wall, and he seems to get along better with star players, hence they want to team up with him. Kyrie gets the NBA game from the perspective of a colluding player.

He also makes nearly $10m less despite being the superior player

Don't know if this debate has a sense (as we agree on Kyrie tradability), but talking about ironman about a player who missed 3 of the last 4 play offs and quit his team on the last one, is maybe not the adapted word. But yes he is a better player than Wall; but Wall, in taking your kind of metaphoric, is a sane and wise mind comparing to Kryrie.
Whatever I guess we agree that they won't trade him, cause they would break this big 3 and their (utopic to me) dream to win it all with there 3 coloss with feet of clay.

[nickagneta]

I get the Kyrie hate, but if he became available there would be a large amount of teams willing to trade for him. Let's remember, he just came off a 3rd team All-NBA year where he put up 26.9/6/4.9 with 1.4 steals and a rare 50.6/40.3/92.2 shooting split and a TS% of 61.4.

Guys that can give you that from the PG position are rare. Teams would definitely trade for that type of player, strange antics and all.

[Rikibellevie]

It is not only about Kyrie's hate, it is about what he brings to a team. Of course NYK, Dallas, Clipps etc... Would be happy to have him. But I doubt they would break the bank for him... With mental and health problems you don't need to give a ton of good 1st picks or a player of his level to grab him, if he was on the market, which he isn't. If at one point next year they want to get rid of him, his value may even decrease more. Bit I sippose they will continue like that until Harden is P..... off to be the 3rd wheel of the caross or Irving break hardly his mind again and again.

[fmbl24]

Oh man, if he got shipped to Sacramento or something I would be happy

[JohnBoy65]

I think if Kyrie were to get traded he'd retire. Sit out for a year or 2, and then come back on his terms.

[td450]

Let's see where it goes with the Nets. Kyrie's behavior is getting worse over time, and despite Durant's friendship, it is an unsustainable situation.

I was quite surprised at Harden's willingness to adapt, but with him, there is clearly a very serious conditioning issue. He will be 32 next year, and as amazing as he is, if he doesn't come back in shape, this whole 3 headed monster thing will likely fail without a championship, even though they are the 3 most talented offensive players on one team perhaps ever.

[Rikibellevie]

Let's see where it goes with the Nets. Kyrie's behavior is getting worse over time, and despite Durant's friendship, it is an unsustainable situation.

I was quite surprised at Harden's willingness to adapt, but with him, there is clearly a very serious conditioning issue. He will be 32 next year, and as amazing as he is, if he doesn't come back in shape, this whole 3 headed monster thing will likely fail without a championship, even though they are the 3 most talented offensive players on one team perhaps ever.

Exactly that... But who knows what Harden really thinks and feel. We will see that next year. Finally Harden or Durant could prefer be with us right now.

[Moranis]

It is not only about Kyrie's hate, it is about what he brings to a team. Of course NYK, Dallas, Clipps etc... Would be happy to have him. But I doubt they would break the bank for him... With mental and health problems you don't need to give a ton of good 1st picks or a player of his level to grab him, if he was on the market, which he isn't. If at one point next year they want to get rid of him, his value may even decrease more. Bit I sippose they will continue like that until Harden is P..... off to be the 3rd wheel of the caross or Irving break hardly his mind again and again.

But that is sort of the point.  The Nets need more depth and more quality players. 

I mentioned this as a possible trade with the Clippers earlier.  Mann, Zubac, Morris, Beverley for Irving, Jordan and then the Nets re-sign Dinwiddie

That isn't breaking the bank, but really does fill out the Nets lineup.  They'd have a pretty deep team around Durant and Harden.  The Clippers get something they need desperately in a 3rd legit scorer and a PG that can pressure other teams.  They'd have limited depth, but a very nice trio at the top. 

I don't think the Nets will trade Irving, but that seems like the sort of trade that makes sense on some level for both teams and LA is probably a place that Irving would actually go.