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Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2021, 06:52:40 PM »

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Where would we find the money to sign a free agent that will probably cost more than $13m?
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Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2021, 07:02:14 PM »

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Where would we find the money to sign a free agent that will probably cost more than $13m?

In a sign-and-trade in which we send out Thompson.  Not likely, but there have been far crazier concepts here.

Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2021, 07:34:13 PM »

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Ironically, the Nets could have really used Lavert, Allen, and Prince a lot more than James Harden against the bucks.

Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2021, 07:52:28 PM »

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Smart move by Dinwiddie. He’s going to get $16-20 mil per from some team this offseason.

Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2021, 07:54:08 PM »

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I don't think Dinwiddie is a great fit for the Cs, but I do think he gets a good offer from the Knicks.

The team I'm monitoring is the Jazz. They are already up against the tax without signing Conley. I don't see a really clear path for us to get Conley without a sign-and-trade that involved a third team, which seems pretty unlikely. But the other possibility is that the Jazz look to trade Ingles, O'neal, and/or Niang in order to be able to resign Conley. I think all three could be really good options for the Cs.

I think we could, for instance, trade Thompson to a third team with cap space and/or a trade exception, and then get back Ingles and take O'neal into a trade exception.

That would free up enough space for the Jazz to resign Conley for up to something like 18m without going into the luxury tax (Dragic seems like an apt comparison for his play and projected value). It would also get the Jazz the trade exception for O'neal. They'd have Conley-Mitchell-Bogdonavic-Gobert as their core. Maybe they'd want Langford or Rob Williams instead, but then I think we are talking about a different structure.

I'm a little unclear on if a player taken into a trade exception counts toward your luxury tax. A deal like this mostly makes sense if Fournier decides to sign elsewhere. If we resign him, then we would be deep into the luxury tax even if we unloaded Grant Williams and/or Carson Edwards and filled the roster with a few second round picks. But the starters would be something like Smart-Brown-Tatum-Ingles-Horford with Fournier-Williams-O'neal-Pritchard-Williams-Parker off the bench. That's really good depth with some high level shooters/passers around Tatum/Brown.

Another option I'm monitoring with this team is them trading Gobert. The Cs could put together an offer include Robert Williams, Marcus Smart, Tristan Thompson and/or a young guy like Langford. The Jazz may not have as much regular season success, but I think they'd be built better for the playoffs with Williams (if healthy), Smart, and Langford. Problem is that Horford doesn't fit next to Gobert very well -- we saw how that played out with Horford and Embiid.

Anyway, those are my initial half-baked ideas. The Jazz clearly have some big decisions to make this off-season and I like a lot of their players as fits around the Js. I'd love to get Ingles or O'neal. Obviously I'm interested in Gobert as well, but I'm a bit concerned about his play in the playoffs when teams go small.

Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2021, 08:22:06 PM »

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Smart move by Dinwiddie. He’s going to get $16-20 mil per from some team this offseason.

Which just shows how absurd pro sports salaries are. This guy missed basically a whole season with his second torn ACL and somehow will get a big payday.
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Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2021, 08:29:04 PM »

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Smart move by Dinwiddie. He’s going to get $16-20 mil per from some team this offseason.

Which just shows how absurd pro sports salaries are. This guy missed basically a whole season with his second torn ACL and somehow will get a big payday.

Because he’s 28 and was an All-Star a year ago.

Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2021, 08:32:07 PM »

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Smart move by Dinwiddie. He’s going to get $16-20 mil per from some team this offseason.

Which just shows how absurd pro sports salaries are. This guy missed basically a whole season with his second torn ACL and somehow will get a big payday.

Because he’s 28 and was an All-Star a year ago.
Am I missing something?
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
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Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2021, 08:36:34 PM »

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Smart move by Dinwiddie. He’s going to get $16-20 mil per from some team this offseason.

Which just shows how absurd pro sports salaries are. This guy missed basically a whole season with his second torn ACL and somehow will get a big payday.

Because he’s 28 and was an All-Star a year ago.
Am I missing something?

Yes, the Mandela Effect that warped my brain into thinking this happened.  I'll just blame 2020 and move on.

Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2021, 08:38:53 PM »

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Haven't seen many good options of attainable players we could have, how do you guys feel about Derrick Rose if we go after him?

Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2021, 08:52:55 PM »

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Smart move by Dinwiddie. He’s going to get $16-20 mil per from some team this offseason.

Which just shows how absurd pro sports salaries are. This guy missed basically a whole season with his second torn ACL and somehow will get a big payday.

Because he’s 28 and was an All-Star a year ago.
Maybe that was a season in NBA2K

Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2021, 08:53:19 PM »

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Smart move by Dinwiddie. He’s going to get $16-20 mil per from some team this offseason.

Which just shows how absurd pro sports salaries are. This guy missed basically a whole season with his second torn ACL and somehow will get a big payday.

Because he’s 28 and was an All-Star a year ago.
Am I missing something?

Yes, the Mandela Effect that warped my brain into thinking this happened.  I'll just blame 2020 and move on.
Haha, 2020 did a lot worse things than that. Maybe D'Angelo Russell and Dinwiddie fused together?
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2021, 08:55:31 PM »

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Haven't seen many good options of attainable players we could have, how do you guys feel about Derrick Rose if we go after him?
He's a really solid bench guard at this point, as he's more of a scoring guard than a game manager. I think some team will overpay him though
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2021, 09:07:46 PM »

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Smart move by Dinwiddie. He’s going to get $16-20 mil per from some team this offseason.

Which just shows how absurd pro sports salaries are. This guy missed basically a whole season with his second torn ACL and somehow will get a big payday.

Because he’s 28 and was an All-Star a year ago.
Am I missing something?

Yes, the Mandela Effect that warped my brain into thinking this happened.  I'll just blame 2020 and move on.
Haha, 2020 did a lot worse things than that. Maybe D'Angelo Russell and Dinwiddie fused together?

D'Angelo Russell was an All-Star??  No way!

Re: Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?
« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2021, 09:15:51 PM »

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Haven't seen many good options of attainable players we could have, how do you guys feel about Derrick Rose if we go after him?
He's a really solid bench guard at this point, as he's more of a scoring guard than a game manager. I think some team will overpay him though


 My magic number for dominant floor manager is 8 APG. This dude was AvG almost 7Apg In his best season .

 Suggests he's a real PG.