Spencer Dinwiddie declines option. Future Celtic?

[tazzmaniac]

I know he's a big guard, but didn't we just trade Kemba in part because he was inefficient and injury prone? So instead you guys are going after a more inefficient scorer who's coming off an ACL surgery? He's Marcus Smart-level of inefficient, and careful that at times even worse and a poorer 3-point shooter as it is.

I thought Dinwiddie was around league average in scoring efficiency. League average efficiency + ball-handling + passing ability is a pretty solid offensive package.

5 years in Brooklyn. 272 games played. 55.2% TS%.

His shooting numbers (FG% and 3PT%) are not pretty. His TS% is better because he takes a high volume of threes (43.6% of his shots) and gets to the FT line a lot (.411 ratio of FTs to FGA).

I had not realized Dinwiddie was regularly injured over the years. That is disappointing.



I view him as more of a shot taker than a great creator. Someone who has value on teams with limited / less offensive creators (because they need someone who can eat possessions at solid efficiency) rather than someone who plays his elevates and enables top offensive players (because he lacks high end efficiency).

I do like this type of a player as a 3rd option behind Jaylen and Tatum. He would be a stop-gap option while Boston looks for a real 3rd star.

I do think the offense needs a guard with some offensive creation. Somebody who can create off the dribble and make some things happen. So we are not totally reliant on Jaylen and Tatum for almost every play. It doesn't need to be someone as high usage as Dinwiddie but we need someone who can step up a bit into that role.

I like that he attacks the basket and draws fouls.  He also seems to be a pretty good passer.  I think he'd work well with alley-oops to Timelord.  His 2018/19 season was fairly efficient with a 58% TS% and only 24% usage.  Definitely works better as a 3rd option. 

[tazzmaniac]

We’d have better luck targeting someone like mike conley

Is there a reason he’d leave Utah?

More money.   

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

The guy's already had 2 ACL injuries and some folks want him on the Hospital Celtics? I'm sure that would work out swimmingly.

[tazzmaniac]

The guy's already had 2 ACL injuries and some folks want him on the Hospital Celtics? I'm sure that would work out swimmingly.

How many ACL injuries has Parker had? 

[KG Living Legend]

He declined $12.3M, so it stands to reason that he hopes to make more than that in FA. Sure, it would be nice to sign him to the MLE, but that’s not likely…and neither is a s&t

Its going to be interesting to see what he gets.  Only 27 but he's coming off an ACL injury.  I'd guess he's looking for 4yr/80M but 4yr/60M may be more likely.

 What's the most we can offer if we Dump Thompson in the trash. 4 years 65 million? Is that possible cap experts.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

The guy's already had 2 ACL injuries and some folks want him on the Hospital Celtics? I'm sure that would work out swimmingly.

How many ACL injuries has Parker had?

Don't know, but Parker was picked up for cheap off the scrap heap; if he doesn't work out, no big deal. Dinwiddie, however, turned down a $12.3M option, so he likely won't come cheap, which means the team would be putting a fair chunk of change on a guy with a bad injury history.

[Roy H.]

We’d have better luck targeting someone like mike conley

Is there a reason he’d leave Utah?

More money.

With us?  Extremely doubtful.

[showtime]

I know he's a big guard, but didn't we just trade Kemba in part because he was inefficient and injury prone? So instead you guys are going after a more inefficient scorer who's coming off an ACL surgery? He's Marcus Smart-level of inefficient, and careful that at times even worse and a poorer 3-point shooter as it is.

Than we sure as heck don't need him.

[Sophomore]

Sign and trade?   Explain to me what this triggers (implications) for hard cap.  I assume means no MLE.

How much over MLE would SD be looking for coming off knee surgery?

He’s an unrestricted free agent. Because we are over the cap, we can’t make him an offer. Only way to get him would be sign and trade. He would have to agree, Boston and the Nets would have to agree, and we would need to send out enough salary to make the trade work (he doesn’t fit into any of our TPEs, which are just too small). If you do all that, you’ll probably have to overpay him (he’s looking for $20-25 mill), tie up money you’ll want to be free for Tatum’s last year to try and make a run at a bigger name (he’ll want and quite possibly get 3-4 years). And if you do all that you’re hard-capped, which makes filling out the rest of the roster a lot harder.

[Who]

The guy's already had 2 ACL injuries and some folks want him on the Hospital Celtics? I'm sure that would work out swimmingly.

2 ACL injuries? Yeesh.

Yeah, okay. Not willing to give him a big deal until he comes back and proves he can get back to his previous level.

I am not too worried about 1 ACL because guys are coming back at 85-90% of previous level after that. But a 2nd ACL makes me more nervous. Too much risk.

[Celtics2021]

He declined $12.3M, so it stands to reason that he hopes to make more than that in FA. Sure, it would be nice to sign him to the MLE, but that’s not likely…and neither is a s&t

Its going to be interesting to see what he gets.  Only 27 but he's coming off an ACL injury.  I'd guess he's looking for 4yr/80M but 4yr/60M may be more likely.

 What's the most we can offer if we Dump Thompson in the trash. 4 years 65 million? Is that possible cap experts.

4 years, $63 million in a S&T where we send Thompson back to the Nets (or a third party).

Mind you, I think if Dinwiddie wants to go the Nets wouldn’t be completely averse to such a deal.  Their ability to acquire mid-level vet help is limited this offseason.

[Rondo9]

I much rather take a risk with Jabari Parker.

[gouki88]

Injury-prone and inefficient? Perfect!

[footey]

Seems likely Nets will re-sign him to a new deal, as they hold his Bird rights.  Kyrie Gone Crazy Again Insurance.

[greg683x]

We’d have better luck targeting someone like mike conley

Is there a reason he’d leave Utah?

More money.

With us?  Extremely doubtful.

Yeah I doubt we’d actually land him, I was just saying we’d have a better chance of landing him than Dinwiddie.  Not to mention I feel like he’s more the type of player we’d be looking for at the point anyway