So the Celtics traded away their starting PG... What about Yam Madar?

[SHAQATTACK]

Nba is whole other world

PP is our true point guard ,  he actually can play the role pretty good

[bogg]

Wouldn't be surprised if Madar comes over on a two-way deal and serves as potential regular-season depth, but Smart and Pritchard are going to be the top two point guards in some order (barring another major trade). I do think they need to find a playable third point guard who can push Pritchard for minutes and play when there are injuries - maybe you get Kris Dunn from Atlanta for cheap (Carsen swap?) If you eat his contract with an exception.

[W8ting2McHale]

He basically just finished his sophomore season. He took a decent leap from his age 19 season to this year. The NBA is a “whole ‘nother thing,” but it is for all the guys coming out of NCAA too. Not all of those guys are ready to play their first year, but plenty of them are. Yam is just as ready as anyone picked at 16 and would probably be in the 15-20 range coming out this year. I actually like him better than the guy coming out of Baylor.

No. Yam is not coming over to be a 2- way player. He’s already making more than that and has to buy out his contract to come here. Wouldn’t we have to cut him to sign a 2-way and risk losing him?

[bogg]

No. Yam is not coming over to be a 2- way player. He’s already making more than that and has to buy out his contract to come here. Wouldn’t we have to cut him to sign a 2-way and risk losing him?

You can sign a guy directly to a two-way, or you can sign them to a minimum camp deal that has an option to be converted directly to a two-way without being waived.

Madar's problem is likely going to be as simple as a roster crunch - Boston's already kind of full, with the off-season ahead of them, and they only have one and a half point guards on the roster. They've probably only got room for one additional point guard to add to Smart and Pritchard, plus a young developmental guy on a two-way replacing Waters. Madar could definitely be the developmental guy, but the regular roster point probably needs to be someone with some sort of track record of doing it in the NBA.

[PAOBoston]

Wouldn't be surprised if Madar comes over on a two-way deal and serves as potential regular-season depth, but Smart and Pritchard are going to be the top two point guards in some order (barring another major trade). I do think they need to find a playable third point guard who can push Pritchard for minutes and play when there are injuries - maybe you get Kris Dunn from Atlanta for cheap (Carsen swap?) If you eat his contract with an exception.

Zero chance he comes on a two way deal. ZERO. He makes more money in Israel. He isn’t going to give up both the money and the playing time to come to NBA if he knows it isn’t available. I find it unlikely he’ll be on the Cs next year due to his current contract situation. Maybe the season after, especially if there’s a path to more playing time as well should Smart not be retained.

[bogg]

Zero chance he comes on a two way deal. ZERO. He makes more money in Israel. He isn’t going to give up both the money and the playing time to come to NBA if he knows it isn’t available.

Then he'll be in Israel next year, and Boston will sign someone else to fill the slot. The season isn't going to hinge on whether a second round draft and stash continues his development here or on his home club.

[PAOBoston]

Zero chance he comes on a two way deal. ZERO. He makes more money in Israel. He isn’t going to give up both the money and the playing time to come to NBA if he knows it isn’t available.

Then he'll be in Israel next year, and Boston will sign someone else to fill the slot. The season isn't going to hinge on whether a second round draft and stash continues his development here or on his home club.

I agree the season isn’t going to hinge of Madar coming over. But why do some have the expectation that the player should forgo a better salary and situation for him to go play in the G league? I’m not sure even the Cs would want him in the G league. He’lol make a better salary and play against better competition as well. He’ll come over when his contract allows. Realistically, not sure the Cs would be giving many minutes to a 19 year old anyways. 

[trickybilly]

I quite like the idea of using a non-traditional point guard. I like how the Jazz use Ingles (and Grizz use Kyle)... I wonder if Jaylen could play that role; I know his handle is a little shaky still but it'd be a nice experiment

[bogg]

But why do some have the expectation that the player should forgo a better salary and situation for him to go play in the G league?

It's likely the only way he'll be on an NBA roster in the fall. How important that is to him is, well, up to him. Madar staying in Israel probably works just fine for the C's, but I can't imagine going into next year with a point guard depth chart that's basically Pritchard and Madar with Smart helping out part-time and another rookie on a two-way to eat random February minutes when people are banged up.

[Alleyoopster]

No matter who plays point guard next year they have to be able to consistently hit the 3 ball.

Almost every game the Celtics lost this year was due to one or more opposing players hitting the outside shot with uncanny accuracy.

Watching NBA basketball today is like watching a freak show when compared to 10 or 20 years ago. One wonders how can so many players connect from so far out?

Even watching undrafted or unheralded players making one three pointer after the other had me muttering... this can't be real. Where do these players come from?

We have been lucky to have Smart control some of these players. But, even he can't stop players hitting shots from way beyond the arc.  Sometimes I felt Romeo also did a good job causing opponents to be less accurate. Then, there were times when it didn't matter who was out there defending.

Brad needs to sign great shooters even if they are unknown. Fournier will be expensive. Perhaps, there are less known shooting specialists that would sign for far less money?

[Celtics2021]

Wouldn't be surprised if Madar comes over on a two-way deal and serves as potential regular-season depth, but Smart and Pritchard are going to be the top two point guards in some order (barring another major trade). I do think they need to find a playable third point guard who can push Pritchard for minutes and play when there are injuries - maybe you get Kris Dunn from Atlanta for cheap (Carsen swap?) If you eat his contract with an exception.

Zero chance he comes on a two way deal. ZERO. He makes more money in Israel. He isn’t going to give up both the money and the playing time to come to NBA if he knows it isn’t available. I find it unlikely he’ll be on the Cs next year due to his current contract situation. Maybe the season after, especially if there’s a path to more playing time as well should Smart not be retained.

Do you have any source that says what his Israeli salary is?  I can’t find it myself.

[mr. dee]

No matter who plays point guard next year they have to be able to consistently hit the 3 ball.

Almost every game the Celtics lost this year was due to one or more opposing players hitting the outside shot with uncanny accuracy.

Watching NBA basketball today is like watching a freak show when compared to 10 or 20 years ago. One wonders how can so many players connect from so far out?

Even watching undrafted or unheralded players making one three pointer after the other had me muttering... this can't be real. Where do these players come from?

We have been lucky to have Smart control some of these players. But, even he can't stop players hitting shots from way beyond the arc.  Sometimes I felt Romeo also did a good job causing opponents to be less accurate. Then, there were times when it didn't matter who was out there defending.

Brad needs to sign great shooters even if they are unknown. Fournier will be expensive. Perhaps, there are less known shooting specialists that would sign for far less money?

Or just the ability to close out 3s. Suns and Bucks did fantastic jobs on teams with great shooters. An "elite" shooter like Harris was rendered useless because of constant physicality and pressure. We need that kind of suffocating defense.

[Celtics4ever]

So the Celtics traded away their starting PG

One that played in  60% of the games we played last year.   43 out of 72, no back to back games.   Sat out of the playoffs at the end.  Maybe he thought Brad would get fired if we lost?

... What about Yam Madar?

Have him try out but just realize that is the league that produced Dragan Bender a colossal bust.  I've watched some tape of Yam and it does not fill me with confidence.

[cons]

im kind of hoping we sign TJ McConnell. 
apparently he's a unrestricted free agent

always thought he was pretty good / underrated

[JBcat]

No matter who plays point guard next year they have to be able to consistently hit the 3 ball.

Almost every game the Celtics lost this year was due to one or more opposing players hitting the outside shot with uncanny accuracy.

Watching NBA basketball today is like watching a freak show when compared to 10 or 20 years ago. One wonders how can so many players connect from so far out?

Even watching undrafted or unheralded players making one three pointer after the other had me muttering... this can't be real. Where do these players come from?

We have been lucky to have Smart control some of these players. But, even he can't stop players hitting shots from way beyond the arc.  Sometimes I felt Romeo also did a good job causing opponents to be less accurate. Then, there were times when it didn't matter who was out there defending.

Brad needs to sign great shooters even if they are unknown. Fournier will be expensive. Perhaps, there are less known shooting specialists that would sign for far less money?

Pritchard and Nesmith will hopefully get more PT next year for this reason, and now having Horford help stretch the floor will be good.  You are right, the league is filled with 3 point shooters all over the place being difficult to defend, much different than even 10 years ago.