Danny Stepping Down / Brad To Lead Front Office / New Coach

[Moranis]

Didn't Ainge also have no front office experience when we hired him? Just because someone is inexperienced doesn't mean it won't work. I'll be optimistic until I have a reason not to be (like hiring Marc Jackson as coach ).

Yes, but Ainge was also a disaster for his first several years on the job.  If KG didn't finally ask out, Ainge would have been fired shortly after that.

[Ogaju]

Honestly, I don't doubt that Brad might pull a Popovich and step back in to a coaching role in a couple of years when the team is ready to really compete. This might be a move to hold on to Brad, not just for the front office, but as a coach in the future.

Maybe he's burnt out coaching so many young players every year, but probably will want to coach again in the future.

This x 100

[RJ87]

Scal says Kara Lawson could be the next HC.

I'm just wondering - say you hire a female head coach. And say a veteran player like Marcus Morris or Rondo - someone with a fuse, blows a gasket and confronts the coach. The PR hit from that would be awful.

You're opening yourself up to that by hiring a female head coach.

Let me see, women run corporations run countries serve in command positions in the military etc etc..I am sure they can tell some men how to put the ball in a hoop. Geeze.

Frankly, a former WNBA player might be what this team needs. A lot of posters want "toughness", right? WNBA players play ball year round with no cushy off-season to recoup. They're used to grinding it out. If Hammon or Lawson are the best candidates, we should hire them.

[Mahk E Mahk]

coach k just announced his retirement after this coming season. wouldn’t be surprised if brad is a “one & done” gm and jumps back into college coaching in a top tier program.

[Roy H.]

Stephen A Smith apparently blasts Celts for not hiring a non white GM.

He was incorrect about Nash hiring btw. Non white coaches have been hired without coaching experience

https://youtu.be/I3Bhk7fel-M

I wish we'd hired somebody with proven experience.  Ujiri seemed like the best available candidate.

But, he would have cost a lot, and he would have eventually wanted to fire Brad, which would cost a lot.  So Wyc decided to hire a guy who was burnt out and has no executive experience.

I mean, it's laughable:  Wyc cited Brad's ability to recruit at Butler as evidence that he'll be a good executive.

At some point the question has to be asked? Is Wyc too cheap as an owner?

Be serious. He also said that coach and GM are two separate positions in Boston.

I am serious. I expect the Boston Celtics to go out and try to get the most qualified man for any job. I’m sorry but Brad Stevens ain’t it. I loved the forward thinking when he was named HC but this reeks of fear.

I just don't see how this equates to being cheap. Any coach you bring is likely going to cost less per year than Brad was making.

I think I explained it above.

Let's say we hired Ujiri.  He's going to cost a lot.  Then, because GMs inevitably want to hire their own guy, Brad would be fired at some point, leaving us on the hook for his salary, plus whatever the new coach makes.

You also lost 40% of your revenue due to the pandemic. That impacts any business. Accounting for that isn't necessarily being cheap.

No?

Setting back your entire organization by hiring an inferior candidate to save money wouldn't be cheap?

And, please don't get snowed by the owners crying poverty due to the pandemic.  In addition to the escrowed salaries and tax breaks they'll get, the Celtics have seen their franchise appreciate literally billions of dollars, and have earned wild profits:



That's $359 million in profit in the past four years alone.  I think that we could afford the most qualified candidate.

[colincb]

Scal says Kara Lawson could be the next HC.

I'm just wondering - say you hire a female head coach. And say a veteran player like Marcus Morris or Rondo - someone with a fuse, blows a gasket and confronts the coach. The PR hit from that would be awful.

You're opening yourself up to that by hiring a female head coach.

Eh.  Any PR hit would be from sexist attitudes that women can't stand up for themselves.

That said, I do think there's plenty of sexism out there.  I'd be more worried about sexism from our players and free agents.  These guys have giant egos.  At least some of them are going to feel disrespected being ordered around by a woman, similar to -- but worse than -- the situation where players bristle playing for a guy who never played.

That too. Keep in mind there's a huge difference between an assistant and the one who controls your playing time and potentially your livelihood. I'm not saying someone like Lawson couldn't do the job, but there's a lot that could go wrong. Say you lose 15 out of 20, the team is listless and fans are screaming to fire the coach - and you do it. There's going to be backlash - from lots of folks outside of basketball.

If you're going down that road you need to be 100% on board with the candidate and be ready to handle the backlash if things don't go right.  You're also talking about a job that a lot of people around the NBA - some currently under contract - are going to be very interested in pursuing. 

I'm just saying it would be a lot easier to not go that route than to actually do it.

Scal says she was outstanding while she was here and commanded respect from the start when she stepped on the court.

Scal doesn't know, but I thought it was interesting that was the name he came up with.

[Tr1boy]

Marc D’Amico: Wyc Grousbeck says that he and Brad Stevens spoke this morning and agreed “to win Banner 18, or die trying.” – via Twitter celtics

[gift]

Scal says Kara Lawson could be the next HC.

I'm just wondering - say you hire a female head coach. And say a veteran player like Marcus Morris or Rondo - someone with a fuse, blows a gasket and confronts the coach. The PR hit from that would be awful.

You're opening yourself up to that by hiring a female head coach.

Let me see, women run corporations run countries serve in command positions in the military etc etc..I am sure they can tell some men how to put the ball in a hoop. Geeze.

Frankly, a former WNBA player might be what this team needs. A lot of posters want "toughness", right? WNBA players play ball year round with no cushy off-season to recoup. They're used to grinding it out. If Hammon or Lawson are the best candidates, we should hire them.

Benefit of Lawson is they know her well. Hammon has more experience and cache around the league. Either would be fine. The bigger problem is building the team over the next two years. The next coach will probably only last about that long. If you hire the first female head coach, you probably fire the first female head coach.

I don't see anyone internally I'd like to have the job. Kenny Atkinson would be good.

Not sure if he'll be successful, but I guarantee Scal is angling for an assistant coaching job with Brad.

[Ogaju]

Scal says Kara Lawson could be the next HC.

I'm just wondering - say you hire a female head coach. And say a veteran player like Marcus Morris or Rondo - someone with a fuse, blows a gasket and confronts the coach. The PR hit from that would be awful.

You're opening yourself up to that by hiring a female head coach.

Eh.  Any PR hit would be from sexist attitudes that women can't stand up for themselves.

That said, I do think there's plenty of sexism out there.  I'd be more worried about sexism from our players and free agents.  These guys have giant egos.  At least some of them are going to feel disrespected being ordered around by a woman, similar to -- but worse than -- the situation where players bristle playing for a guy who never played.

That too. Keep in mind there's a huge difference between an assistant and the one who controls your playing time and potentially your livelihood. I'm not saying someone like Lawson couldn't do the job, but there's a lot that could go wrong. Say you lose 15 out of 20, the team is listless and fans are screaming to fire the coach - and you do it. There's going to be backlash - from lots of folks outside of basketball.

If you're going down that road you need to be 100% on board with the candidate and be ready to handle the backlash if things don't go right.  You're also talking about a job that a lot of people around the NBA - some currently under contract - are going to be very interested in pursuing. 

I'm just saying it would be a lot easier to not go that route than to actually do it.

Scal says she was outstanding while she was here and commanded respect from the start when she stepped on the court.

Scal doesn't know, but I thought it was interesting that was the name he came up with.

She is also from the CBS tree...

[angryguy77]

The "what happens if the players don't like being told what to do by a woman?" thing is the same type of argument that's been used to deny women leadership positions from time immemorial.

It's not a good look.

Males have been fired for losing the locker room. It's a valid concern for any coach.
If she can coach and bring 18, then great. But it will be an absolute disaster if her gender sways the hiring decision in her favor. If she's more qualified then the other candidates, then she should get the job. If she's not, I don't want her hired for diversity sake.

[Ogaju]

Scal says Kara Lawson could be the next HC.

I'm just wondering - say you hire a female head coach. And say a veteran player like Marcus Morris or Rondo - someone with a fuse, blows a gasket and confronts the coach. The PR hit from that would be awful.

You're opening yourself up to that by hiring a female head coach.

Let me see, women run corporations run countries serve in command positions in the military etc etc..I am sure they can tell some men how to put the ball in a hoop. Geeze.

Frankly, a former WNBA player might be what this team needs. A lot of posters want "toughness", right? WNBA players play ball year round with no cushy off-season to recoup. They're used to grinding it out. If Hammon or Lawson are the best candidates, we should hire them.

Benefit of Lawson is they know her well. Hammon has more experience and cache around the league. Either would be fine. The bigger problem is building the team over the next two years. The next coach will probably only last about that long. If you hire the first female head coach, you probably fire the first female head coach.

I don't see anyone internally I'd like to have the job. Kenny Atkinson would be good.

Not sure if he'll be successful, but I guarantee Scal is angling for an assistant coaching job with Brad.

Good point about not hiring them if you can’t fire them.. that should be the #1 rule in hiring.

[Roy H.]

The "what happens if the players don't like being told what to do by a woman?" thing is the same type of argument that's been used to deny women leadership positions from time immemorial.

It's not a good look.

It's probably not a good look, but every franchise in every sport to date has embraced it. 

If some players have a hard time respecting a white man who never played NBA hoops, my guess is that they'll feel similarly -- but more strongly -- about being coached by a white woman, no matter how qualified she may be.  We've talked a lot over the years about how players gravitate more toward former players.  Do we just ignore that with a candidate like Hammon, anymore than we would with any other candidate who never played in the NBA?

[Roy H.]

Marc D’Amico: Wyc Grousbeck says that he and Brad Stevens spoke this morning and agreed “to win Banner 18, or die trying.” – via Twitter celtics

LOL.

[liam]

Scal says Kara Lawson could be the next HC.

I'm just wondering - say you hire a female head coach. And say a veteran player like Marcus Morris or Rondo - someone with a fuse, blows a gasket and confronts the coach. The PR hit from that would be awful.

You're opening yourself up to that by hiring a female head coach.

Let me see, women run corporations run countries serve in command positions in the military etc etc..I am sure they can tell some men how to put the ball in a hoop. Geeze.

Frankly, a former WNBA player might be what this team needs. A lot of posters want "toughness", right? WNBA players play ball year round with no cushy off-season to recoup. They're used to grinding it out. If Hammon or Lawson are the best candidates, we should hire them.

Benefit of Lawson is they know her well. Hammon has more experience and cache around the league. Either would be fine. The bigger problem is building the team over the next two years. The next coach will probably only last about that long. If you hire the first female head coach, you probably fire the first female head coach.

I don't see anyone internally I'd like to have the job. Kenny Atkinson would be good.

Not sure if he'll be successful, but I guarantee Scal is angling for an assistant coaching job with Brad.

Kenny Atkinson would be good!

[Ogaju]

Triboy...what happened to your post about Celtics Brass that wanted CBS fired during the season.