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Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #180 on: June 02, 2021, 12:45:36 PM »

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Mike Gorman says Danny went to ownership near the trade deadline.

Can you expand??

On planning to retire?

Planning to retire.

Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #181 on: June 02, 2021, 12:46:50 PM »

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Stephen A Smith apparently blasts Celts for not hiring a non white GM.

He was incorrect about Nash hiring btw. Non white coaches have been hired without coaching experience

https://youtu.be/I3Bhk7fel-M

I wish we'd hired somebody with proven experience.  Ujiri seemed like the best available candidate.

But, he would have cost a lot, and he would have eventually wanted to fire Brad, which would cost a lot.  So Wyc decided to hire a guy who was burnt out and has no executive experience.

I mean, it's laughable:  Wyc cited Brad's ability to recruit at Butler as evidence that he'll be a good executive.

At some point the question has to be asked? Is Wyc too cheap as an owner?
Be serious. He also said that coach and GM are two separate positions in Boston.

I am serious. I expect the Boston Celtics to go out and try to get the most qualified man for any job. I’m sorry but Brad Stevens ain’t it. I loved the forward thinking when he was named HC but this reeks of fear.

Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #182 on: June 02, 2021, 12:47:19 PM »

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Steve Pagliuca: "The only thing we did is we asked him to think about it."

OK, everybody understand what that means, right?

Passively force him to retire ?

Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #183 on: June 02, 2021, 12:47:38 PM »

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Scal says Kara Lawson could be the next HC.

Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #184 on: June 02, 2021, 12:47:55 PM »

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To me the most interesting comments were ownership and Ainge saying leaving was his decision - and Ainge not ruling out a return with another team.

Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #185 on: June 02, 2021, 12:48:36 PM »

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Stephen A Smith apparently blasts Celts for not hiring a non white GM.

He was incorrect about Nash hiring btw. Non white coaches have been hired without coaching experience

https://youtu.be/I3Bhk7fel-M

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Eh. He has a point. He also didn't hesitate to call out big name players like Lebron, Durant, Kyrie, and the Jays for not advocating more for black coaches.

That said, Brad has been with the franchise for 8 years. Internal promotions happen across industries so I don't find his new role all that egregious. The coaching search has to be 100% transparent though.
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Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #186 on: June 02, 2021, 12:51:35 PM »

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Didn't Ainge also have no front office experience when we hired him? Just because someone is inexperienced doesn't mean it won't work. I'll be optimistic until I have a reason not to be (like hiring Marc Jackson as coach ;D).

While true, Danny also had 18 years of NBA experience, both playing and coaching.   He was involved with four different franchises.  He'd also had a close up view of the NBA for a couple of years broadcasting.  Even after a lifetime in the NBA, Danny had growing pains as a GM, making some notable missteps early on.

I'm skeptical.  Brad got burnt out coaching his team.  He seemed to have a hard time relating to NBA players, and certainly seemed risk averse regarding the type of guys we'd bring in.  None of that sets him up to be a great executive in my mind.


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Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #187 on: June 02, 2021, 12:51:57 PM »

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Stephen A Smith apparently blasts Celts for not hiring a non white GM.

He was incorrect about Nash hiring btw. Non white coaches have been hired without coaching experience

https://youtu.be/I3Bhk7fel-M

I wish we'd hired somebody with proven experience.  Ujiri seemed like the best available candidate.

But, he would have cost a lot, and he would have eventually wanted to fire Brad, which would cost a lot.  So Wyc decided to hire a guy who was burnt out and has no executive experience.

I mean, it's laughable:  Wyc cited Brad's ability to recruit at Butler as evidence that he'll be a good executive.

At some point the question has to be asked? Is Wyc too cheap as an owner?
Be serious. He also said that coach and GM are two separate positions in Boston.

I am serious. I expect the Boston Celtics to go out and try to get the most qualified man for any job. I’m sorry but Brad Stevens ain’t it. I loved the forward thinking when he was named HC but this reeks of fear.
I just don't see how this equates to being cheap. Any coach you bring is likely going to cost less per year than Brad was making. 

Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #188 on: June 02, 2021, 12:52:16 PM »

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This particular turn of events is like a season finale no one saw coming. I can't help but worry we are losing guys at their best areas of strength. Can we find a better coach than Brad? Is Brad a better executive than Danny? Both major question marks.

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« Reply #189 on: June 02, 2021, 12:52:18 PM »

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Stephen A Smith apparently blasts Celts for not hiring a non white GM.

He was incorrect about Nash hiring btw. Non white coaches have been hired without coaching experience

https://youtu.be/I3Bhk7fel-M

SAS=Idiot

Eh. He has a point. He also didn't hesitate to call out big name players like Lebron, Durant, Kyrie, and the Jays for not advocating more for black coaches.

That said, Brad has been with the franchise for 8 years. Internal promotions happen across industries so I don't find his new role all that egregious. The coaching search has to be 100% transparent though.

The skin colour of a person is irrelevant.

A person should be hired based on qualifications and the ability to do the job - nothing more.

Whether that's a man, a woman, someone white, someone black, someone Hispanic...totally irrelevant.

Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #190 on: June 02, 2021, 12:53:06 PM »

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My positive spin on this is that if Brad as GM is anything like what he did as coach, he is going to focus on defensive discipline and experience. 

The Celtics are going to be a team built around defense and consistency. The trade off will be size and talent.
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Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #191 on: June 02, 2021, 12:54:57 PM »

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Didn't Ainge also have no front office experience when we hired him? Just because someone is inexperienced doesn't mean it won't work. I'll be optimistic until I have a reason not to be (like hiring Marc Jackson as coach ;D).

While true, Danny also had 18 years of NBA experience, both playing and coaching.   He was involved with four different franchises.  He'd also had a close up view of the NBA for a couple of years broadcasting.  Even after a lifetime in the NBA, Danny had growing pains as a GM, making some notable missteps early on.

I'm skeptical.  Brad got burnt out coaching his team.  He seemed to have a hard time relating to NBA players, and certainly seemed risk averse regarding the type of guys we'd bring in.  None of that sets him up to be a great executive in my mind.


Another very good point.  A lot of the things I liked about Brad as a coach (even keeled, don't overreact, process over results) seem like they might work in a GM.  At the same time, the best GMs aren't risk averse.  They take big swings. They bet on talent.  I'm not sure if Brad can or will do that.
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Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #192 on: June 02, 2021, 12:55:12 PM »

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Stephen A Smith apparently blasts Celts for not hiring a non white GM.

He was incorrect about Nash hiring btw. Non white coaches have been hired without coaching experience

https://youtu.be/I3Bhk7fel-M

I wish we'd hired somebody with proven experience.  Ujiri seemed like the best available candidate.

But, he would have cost a lot, and he would have eventually wanted to fire Brad, which would cost a lot.  So Wyc decided to hire a guy who was burnt out and has no executive experience.

I mean, it's laughable:  Wyc cited Brad's ability to recruit at Butler as evidence that he'll be a good executive.

At some point the question has to be asked? Is Wyc too cheap as an owner?
Be serious. He also said that coach and GM are two separate positions in Boston.

I am serious. I expect the Boston Celtics to go out and try to get the most qualified man for any job. I’m sorry but Brad Stevens ain’t it. I loved the forward thinking when he was named HC but this reeks of fear.

What was Ainge's experience before being in this position?   A couple years coaching the sun's, broadcasting and of course player.  So was he qualified?

Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #193 on: June 02, 2021, 12:55:33 PM »

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Scal says Kara Lawson could be the next HC.
I'm just wondering - say you hire a female head coach. And say a veteran player like Marcus Morris or Rondo - someone with a fuse, blows a gasket and confronts the coach. The PR hit from that would be awful.

You're opening yourself up to that by hiring a female head coach.

Re: Woj: Danny Stepping Down, Brad To Lead Front Office
« Reply #194 on: June 02, 2021, 12:55:53 PM »

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https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-prominent-member-celtics-organization-143336823.html

Sources: Prominent member of Celtics organization wanted to fire Brad Stevens during regular season

Well... now they get their wish