Nets (2-1) at Celtics (1-2) Round 1 Game 4 5/30/21

[Mahk E Mahk]

At least Game 3 was fun

it was the anomaly and games 1,2, & 4 have been consistent with the regular season. missing brown, timelord, and kemba isn’t the real issue, as we’ve seen the team play just like tonight with those players active. this team needs a significant overhaul in the offseason.

It's just consistency. Really good players have a high standard level of performance and a low standard deviation from their mean. We have too many players that have too high a standard deviation, they can be world beaters one game and trash the next. They just don't shoot well enough consistently, and when they don't shoot well they let it affect their defense. Obviously it doesn't help that the Nets have 3 elite scorers and Cryrie was determined to make up for his mediocre game last Friday.

that’s a fair way to look at it. so, in your estimation, danny must execute major roster changes in the offseason? does that include brad?

[gouki88]

Nets have two MVPs and another All-NBAer.

We’re missing three starters.

And yet people fault coaching?

People are faulting both. We're riddled by injury and yet Brad is still reverting to people who shouldn't play (Semi) over those who should (Nesmith).

We're also seeing Nash make good changes in reaction to what we succeed with, while Brad makes no changes to what Brooklyn succeeds with.

Brooklyn succeeds with having elite talent that can improvise.  They’re one of the hardest teams to guard in recent history.  We don’t have the personnel to play elite offense or elite defense.

That's not the point I was making. The Brooklyn defence adjusted to essentially triple-teaming Tatum on the catch, and Brad left non-shooters like Langford out there when he was doing nothing on either end. I don't expect them to win, the talent disparity is too great, but I do expect the coach to actually show up. It was inexcusable to play the lineup he did in the early 2nd quarter, and that's when the gap went from 3 points to double-digits in a blink.

Stevens routinely displays an inability to manage lineups or stagger his star players well, and is always too slow to react to runs. I'm pretty firmly done with him

Your ability to somehow make every shortcoming Brad's fault is obsessive to the point of being pathological. Makes me wonder if there's something more to this with you.

You're right, Brad slept with my girlfriend and bullied me in school 

I don't particularly care what Scottiej23 on a fan forum thinks is wrong with me. I do care about garbage coaching, which is what we've seen tonight.

You sound as if you don't really know your ass from your elbow when it comes to basketball, difficult to imagine you ever having a girlfriend, but your meltdowns every game and complete lack of rational insight continue to provide immense enjoyment.

Nice breach of the rules. See ya!

[Phantom255x]

Nothing but love, Tatum.  Keep giving it all you have.

Yeah people can say what they want. Tatum's established himself as an up and coming superstar and he should be untouchable for the C's going forward, or dang near close to it.

[hwangjini_1]

Turns out, when you're down your number 2 option, your number 3 option, and your starting 5, and you play vs the team that's got 3 of the possibly top 10 individual talents in the league, you will struggle.

Who'da thunk hey!

i blame brad!  (that was my gouki imitation.  )

[cltc5]

  Just throwing crap against the wall.

When you’re missing three starters and our bench blows, isn’t that all a coach can do?

It’s what this coach does

It’s what any coach would do.

He’s got one star player, two good players playing below their level (Smart, Fournier) and a whole lot of garbage. 

Red himself couldn’t make this game competitive, even if Pops and Phil Jackson were assisting.

No DOES, as in all the time.  Whomever we have on the floor, it’s the same song and dance with Stevens.

[Ogaju]

At least Game 3 was fun

I just wanted for there to be no sweep, and I got my wish. I just find it funny people are getting worked up losing to a team that is massively out of our league.

I have never understood the concept of the rational fan.

It's pretty easy to understand. You can cheer for your team while have an understanding that you're clearly outmatched.

do you still pay $1000 to go watch em lose...do you pay $20.00 for a beer...wear a jersey with another man’s name on it....lose your voice cheering when you know you are outmatched? Is that rational?

Wasn't it you who said that fans aren't rational, that's why they are fans 

That is my point. RP wants fans to be rational..there is nothing rational about grown men cheering for a sport’s team.

I'll cheer for my team regardless what I think will be the final outcome. I just won't get mad when they don't pull off  against far better teams.

This isn't really a novel concept.

Sounds like you are mad your team is being criticized...how rational is that...why are you upset?

[SCeltic34]

It's a shame.  Too bad we don't have someone whom we could switch onto Irving to stop these easy 3's.

[RPGenerate]

At least Game 3 was fun

I just wanted for there to be no sweep, and I got my wish. I just find it funny people are getting worked up losing to a team that is massively out of our league.

I have never understood the concept of the rational fan.

It's pretty easy to understand. You can cheer for your team while have an understanding that you're clearly outmatched.

do you still pay $1000 to go watch em lose...do you pay $20.00 for a beer...wear a jersey with another man’s name on it....lose your voice cheering when you know you are outmatched? Is that rational?

Wasn't it you who said that fans aren't rational, that's why they are fans 

That is my point. RP wants fans to be rational..there is nothing rational about grown men cheering for a sport’s team.

I'll cheer for my team regardless what I think will be the final outcome. I just won't get mad when they don't pull off  against far better teams.

This isn't really a novel concept.

Sounds like you are mad your team is being criticized...how rational is that...why are you upset?

It sounds like you have some difficulty in reading comprehension if that's your take away.

[liam]

Why wasn't Nesmith playing this whole game?

[hwangjini_1]

Nets have two MVPs and another All-NBAer.

We’re missing three starters.

And yet people fault coaching?

People are faulting both. We're riddled by injury and yet Brad is still reverting to people who shouldn't play (Semi) over those who should (Nesmith).

We're also seeing Nash make good changes in reaction to what we succeed with, while Brad makes no changes to what Brooklyn succeeds with.

Brooklyn succeeds with having elite talent that can improvise.  They’re one of the hardest teams to guard in recent history.  We don’t have the personnel to play elite offense or elite defense.

That's not the point I was making. The Brooklyn defence adjusted to essentially triple-teaming Tatum on the catch, and Brad left non-shooters like Langford out there when he was doing nothing on either end. I don't expect them to win, the talent disparity is too great, but I do expect the coach to actually show up. It was inexcusable to play the lineup he did in the early 2nd quarter, and that's when the gap went from 3 points to double-digits in a blink.

Stevens routinely displays an inability to manage lineups or stagger his star players well, and is always too slow to react to runs. I'm pretty firmly done with him

Your ability to somehow make every shortcoming Brad's fault is obsessive to the point of being pathological. Makes me wonder if there's something more to this with you.

You're right, Brad slept with my girlfriend and bullied me in school 

I don't particularly care what Scottiej23 on a fan forum thinks is wrong with me. I do care about garbage coaching, which is what we've seen tonight.

You sound as if you don't really know your ass from your elbow when it comes to basketball, difficult to imagine you ever having a girlfriend, but your meltdowns every game and complete lack of rational insight continue to provide immense enjoyment.

Nice breach of the rules. See ya!

thank you gouki, you made an unpleasant experience a little better by cleaning things up.

p.s. please don't ban me for teasing you in an earlier post. 

[esel1000]

Is there a way to get Beal to join Tatum + Brown and keeping Timelord too lol? That might be the only way we can legitimately contend next season.

He would have to demand it, but it would probably be Kemba + 4 1st round picks + Langford/Nesmith

And you would do that in a millisecond. Time to stop overvaluing picks that become GWill and Carson.

Yeah, I think so too. Even if we can flip them for proven role players I would do that. Seeing Ojeleye, Langford and G-Will relied upon this heavily is not too flash

Either or but yes I wouldn’t hesitate to give up multiple firsts for a chance at a title. I bet the Nets are really missing those late firsts.

On a related note at least we’re not Houston. Danny has never done anything as bad as that ridiculous Harden trade.

[Roy H.]

The Brooklyn defence adjusted to essentially triple-teaming Tatum on the catch, and Brad left non-shooters like Langford out there when he was doing nothing on either end. I don't expect them to win, the talent disparity is too great, but I do expect the coach to actually show up

My six year old son would recommend double and triple-teaming Tatum.

What shooters do we have on this team that can be trusted?  I would have played Nesmith more, sure, but what difference would that make?

[Ogaju]

At least Game 3 was fun

I just wanted for there to be no sweep, and I got my wish. I just find it funny people are getting worked up losing to a team that is massively out of our league.

I have never understood the concept of the rational fan.

It's pretty easy to understand. You can cheer for your team while have an understanding that you're clearly outmatched.

do you still pay $1000 to go watch em lose...do you pay $20.00 for a beer...wear a jersey with another man’s name on it....lose your voice cheering when you know you are outmatched? Is that rational?

Wasn't it you who said that fans aren't rational, that's why they are fans 

That is my point. RP wants fans to be rational..there is nothing rational about grown men cheering for a sport’s team.

I'll cheer for my team regardless what I think will be the final outcome. I just won't get mad when they don't pull off  against far better teams.

This isn't really a novel concept.

Sounds like you are mad your team is being criticized...how rational is that...why are you upset?

It sounds like you have some difficulty in reading comprehension if that's your take away.

You are arguing about a team online and you think you are being rational...?

[cltc5]

Why wasn't Nesmith playing this whole game?

I think Brad was waiting for Jaylen to heal up

[RPGenerate]

At least Game 3 was fun

I just wanted for there to be no sweep, and I got my wish. I just find it funny people are getting worked up losing to a team that is massively out of our league.

I have never understood the concept of the rational fan.

It's pretty easy to understand. You can cheer for your team while have an understanding that you're clearly outmatched.

do you still pay $1000 to go watch em lose...do you pay $20.00 for a beer...wear a jersey with another man’s name on it....lose your voice cheering when you know you are outmatched? Is that rational?

Wasn't it you who said that fans aren't rational, that's why they are fans 

That is my point. RP wants fans to be rational..there is nothing rational about grown men cheering for a sport’s team.

I'll cheer for my team regardless what I think will be the final outcome. I just won't get mad when they don't pull off  against far better teams.

This isn't really a novel concept.

Sounds like you are mad your team is being criticized...how rational is that...why are you upset?

It sounds like you have some difficulty in reading comprehension if that's your take away.

You are arguing about a team online and you think you are being rational...?

Does everything have to be an argument? I'd describe it more as a conversation, if you will.