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Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2021, 12:50:09 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

Didn’t Romeo mouth of to his coach now President of Basketball Operations?..he may be done. Brad will get rid of all the knuckleheads and he knows who they are.

Reckon he'll get rid of Pritchard for throwing that bottle at Kyrie?

Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2021, 12:52:00 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

Didn’t Romeo mouth of to his coach now President of Basketball Operations?..he may be done. Brad will get rid of all the knuckleheads and he knows who they are.

Reckon he'll get rid of Pritchard for throwing that bottle at Kyrie?

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Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2021, 12:53:18 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

Didn’t Romeo mouth of to his coach now President of Basketball Operations?..he may be done. Brad will get rid of all the knuckleheads and he knows who they are.

Played him quite a bit against BKN and he played very well considering his experience. Wouldn't be too sure that he's gone.

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« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2021, 12:54:44 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

Didn’t Romeo mouth of to his coach now President of Basketball Operations?..he may be done. Brad will get rid of all the knuckleheads and he knows who they are.

Reckon he'll get rid of Pritchard for throwing that bottle at Kyrie?

Cause he missed. 8)

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« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2021, 12:55:47 AM »

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The sample size is 15 games, 4 of which he barely played in his rookie season and averaged just 4 field goal attempts per game.

I read nothing into this.

Also every single game in that sample is from a series in which Fournier's team was woefully outmatched.  He's never been in a series where his team had comparable firepower / talent to the opponent.

Not only that, he was by far ORL's best 3 point threat. With not a lot of offense in either of ORL's playoff series, he was the logical candidate to get added attention.

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« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2021, 12:55:51 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

Didn’t Romeo mouth of to his coach now President of Basketball Operations?..he may be done. Brad will get rid of all the knuckleheads and he knows who they are.

Played him quite a bit against BKN and he played very well considering his experience. Wouldn't be too sure that he's gone.

Just enough to showcase him.

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« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2021, 01:00:33 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

I can't think of any reason why you would start Romeo over Kemba and Fournier.  Kemba is a multi-time All star.  Fournier is a good starter and international star.  Langford is a scrub who's shown zero indication to me that he will ever be a legit NBA player, let alone a starter.

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« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2021, 01:01:58 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

I can't think of any reason why you would start Romeo over Kemba and Fournier.  Kemba is a multi-time All star.  Fournier is a good starter and international star.  Langford is a scrub who's shown zero indication to me that he will ever be a legit NBA player, let alone a starter.

I will give you one reason. Kemba is cooked.

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« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2021, 01:04:43 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

I can't think of any reason why you would start Romeo over Kemba and Fournier.  Kemba is a multi-time All star.  Fournier is a good starter and international star.  Langford is a scrub who's shown zero indication to me that he will ever be a legit NBA player, let alone a starter.

I will give you one reason. Kemba is cooked.

You can take both of Kembas knees, both of his arms and half of his head, and he's still about 5,000x better then Langford will probably ever been in his lifetime.

Also Kemba averaged 19.3 PPG / 3.8 RPG / 5.4 APG on 42% / 36% / 90% shooting and had five 30+ point games.  If that's what we define as "cooked" then I think a lot of teams out there could benefit from picking up more "cooked" players.
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Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2021, 01:09:07 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

I can't think of any reason why you would start Romeo over Kemba and Fournier.  Kemba is a multi-time All star.  Fournier is a good starter and international star.  Langford is a scrub who's shown zero indication to me that he will ever be a legit NBA player, let alone a starter.

I will give you one reason. Kemba is cooked.

You can take both of Kembas knees, both of his arms and half of his head, and he's still about 5,000x better then Langford will probably ever been in his lifetime.

He did look good on the bench cheesing while Romeo was starting the last two games.

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« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2021, 01:10:34 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

I can't think of any reason why you would start Romeo over Kemba and Fournier.  Kemba is a multi-time All star.  Fournier is a good starter and international star.  Langford is a scrub who's shown zero indication to me that he will ever be a legit NBA player, let alone a starter.

I’d start him over Kemba because I think it’s very problematic to have a starter who is going to need to rest 15+ games next year, excluding any additional injury he suffers.  It’s less disruptive to the rotation/rhythm of the team if he’s coming off the bench.

As for Fournier, he gets hunted on defense and is too inconsistent on offense.  I don’t expect him to stick around, but if he does he’s again better bench material.

Romeo is ready for his Avery Bradley breakout year.  He showed flashes in May, and it’s coming.  He’s ready to start.

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« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2021, 01:34:09 AM »

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Sounded pretty noncommittal about returning tonight.
Fair enough. There'll be plenty of suitors where his role will be much more well-defined
Yeah, I wouldn't be in a rush to stay with the Celtics if I were Fournier because of the lack of clarity over his role and his minutes. I would want to be a starter and get 30-35mpg.

Anybody that offers me comparable financial terms on a not lousy ball club while giving me a clearer role is the team that I would sign with.

That said, If Boston made some moves and say traded Marcus Smart and said "Evan, you're our starting SG next year" ... well then, that problem goes out the window.

Then it becomes money + opportunity to win a title. Someone could offer similar money but a better opportunity to win which would be unlucky / unlikely but possible. But at least it would remove that extra factor over role + minutes as a negative shadow over Evan returning here.
Well, good thing that we're going to absolutely shut him down if he's asking for anything close to 15 million then :laugh:
I feel like he'll be able to find that kind of money easily if Bertans and Harris were able to
Harris is miles clear of Fournier and so was Bertans when he signed his contract.
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« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2021, 02:19:41 AM »

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Sounded pretty noncommittal about returning tonight.
Fair enough. There'll be plenty of suitors where his role will be much more well-defined
Yeah, I wouldn't be in a rush to stay with the Celtics if I were Fournier because of the lack of clarity over his role and his minutes. I would want to be a starter and get 30-35mpg.

Anybody that offers me comparable financial terms on a not lousy ball club while giving me a clearer role is the team that I would sign with.

That said, If Boston made some moves and say traded Marcus Smart and said "Evan, you're our starting SG next year" ... well then, that problem goes out the window.

Then it becomes money + opportunity to win a title. Someone could offer similar money but a better opportunity to win which would be unlucky / unlikely but possible. But at least it would remove that extra factor over role + minutes as a negative shadow over Evan returning here.
Well, good thing that we're going to absolutely shut him down if he's asking for anything close to 15 million then :laugh:
I feel like he'll be able to find that kind of money easily if Bertans and Harris were able to
Harris is miles clear of Fournier and so was Bertans when he signed his contract.
In what aspects? Their box scores and most advanced metrics are pretty comparable
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« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2021, 03:13:15 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

I can't think of any reason why you would start Romeo over Kemba and Fournier.  Kemba is a multi-time All star.  Fournier is a good starter and international star.  Langford is a scrub who's shown zero indication to me that he will ever be a legit NBA player, let alone a starter.

I’d start him over Kemba because I think it’s very problematic to have a starter who is going to need to rest 15+ games next year, excluding any additional injury he suffers.  It’s less disruptive to the rotation/rhythm of the team if he’s coming off the bench.

As for Fournier, he gets hunted on defense and is too inconsistent on offense.  I don’t expect him to stick around, but if he does he’s again better bench material.

Romeo is ready for his Avery Bradley breakout year.  He showed flashes in May, and it’s coming.  He’s ready to start.

Are you really using injury history of all things  as a justification for starting Langford over Kemba?

How many games has Langford missed due to injury so far?

Also where dos the Avery Bradley comparison come from?  Bradley was an elite defender from the day he entered the league, then developed the rest of is game later.  Romeo so far can't even defend at a passable level.  At least not from what I've seen...

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« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2021, 03:32:45 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

I can't think of any reason why you would start Romeo over Kemba and Fournier.  Kemba is a multi-time All star.  Fournier is a good starter and international star.  Langford is a scrub who's shown zero indication to me that he will ever be a legit NBA player, let alone a starter.

I’d start him over Kemba because I think it’s very problematic to have a starter who is going to need to rest 15+ games next year, excluding any additional injury he suffers.  It’s less disruptive to the rotation/rhythm of the team if he’s coming off the bench.

As for Fournier, he gets hunted on defense and is too inconsistent on offense.  I don’t expect him to stick around, but if he does he’s again better bench material.

Romeo is ready for his Avery Bradley breakout year.  He showed flashes in May, and it’s coming.  He’s ready to start.

Are you really using injury history of all things  as a justification for starting Langford over Kemba?

How many games has Langford missed due to injury so far?

Also where dos the Avery Bradley comparison come from?  Bradley was an elite defender from the day he entered the league, then developed the rest of is game later.  Romeo so far can't even defend at a passable level.  At least not from what I've seen...
I would suggest you're not paying much attention to him then.

His defensive positioning is elite. Lateral quickness, long wingspan, isn't foul prone. His D-Raptor this year was +2.5 and last year was +2.9, which is really impressive and better than quite a few well-known defenders, and he's trusted by both coaches and teammates to defend high-level offensive players
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C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)