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Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2021, 11:20:06 PM »

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Sounded pretty noncommittal about returning tonight.

Some nice games. Thanks for your service. And goodluck

Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2021, 11:28:38 PM »

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CLNS boys had a fun comment.

"I've never seen an Evan Fournier Highlight Reel"

:')

Fair point.

Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2021, 03:33:04 PM »

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Sounded pretty noncommittal about returning tonight.
Fair enough. There'll be plenty of suitors where his role will be much more well-defined

Yeah, I wouldn't be in a rush to stay with the Celtics if I were Fournier because of the lack of clarity over his role and his minutes. I would want to be a starter and get 30-35mpg.

Anybody that offers me comparable financial terms on a not lousy ball club while giving me a clearer role is the team that I would sign with.

That said, If Boston made some moves and say traded Marcus Smart and said "Evan, you're our starting SG next year" ... well then, that problem goes out the window.

Then it becomes money + opportunity to win a title. Someone could offer similar money but a better opportunity to win which would be unlucky / unlikely but possible. But at least it would remove that extra factor over role + minutes as a negative shadow over Evan returning here.

Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2021, 03:46:36 PM »

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I guess it's all about "expectations."

Fournier is a bench player. He's the 6th or 7th guy.

I didn't see a great deal from him in the playoffs, but, as he's a bench player? I thought he looked fine.

In turn, it will be interesting to see if they pay him. I could be wrong, but Nesmith, by his third year, should be significantly "better" than Fournier, but, that's 2 years away.

My bench for this year's playoffs was:

Teague
Fournier
Thompson

All solid veteran players who just need to keep the ship sailing while the assorted $35M guys are resting on the bench.

Brown is out, Robert is hurt all the time and Teague gets traded...whatcha gonna do?


Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2021, 03:56:19 PM »

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I guess it's all about "expectations."

Fournier is a bench player. He's the 6th or 7th guy.

I didn't see a great deal from him in the playoffs, but, as he's a bench player? I thought he looked fine.

In turn, it will be interesting to see if they pay him. I could be wrong, but Nesmith, by his third year, should be significantly "better" than Fournier, but, that's 2 years away.

My bench for this year's playoffs was:

Teague
Fournier
Thompson

All solid veteran players who just need to keep the ship sailing while the assorted $35M guys are resting on the bench.

Brown is out, Robert is hurt all the time and Teague gets traded...whatcha gonna do?

Build back better!  ;)

Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2021, 04:56:42 PM »

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Evan Fournier Free Agency:

“He’s going to look for $15-20 million a year,” an NBA executive estimated when speaking to HoopsHype. “I’m not sure where he gets that from. They’ll have to keep him since they can’t replace him. It’ll be interesting because they have never been willing to pay the tax, so getting around that will be hard for them. If they let him walk, there’s no replacement.” – via Michael Scotto


Sounds about right....
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Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2021, 05:06:55 PM »

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Evan Fournier Free Agency:

“He’s going to look for $15-20 million a year,” an NBA executive estimated when speaking to HoopsHype. “I’m not sure where he gets that from. They’ll have to keep him since they can’t replace him. It’ll be interesting because they have never been willing to pay the tax, so getting around that will be hard for them. If they let him walk, there’s no replacement.” – via Michael Scotto


Sounds about right....

Never been willing to pay the tax?


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Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2021, 05:10:25 PM »

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Evan Fournier Free Agency:

“He’s going to look for $15-20 million a year,” an NBA executive estimated when speaking to HoopsHype. “I’m not sure where he gets that from. They’ll have to keep him since they can’t replace him. It’ll be interesting because they have never been willing to pay the tax, so getting around that will be hard for them. If they let him walk, there’s no replacement.” – via Michael Scotto


Sounds about right....

This is demonstrably false.  The Celtics have paid the luxury tax seven time since the current ownership group took over, most recently in the 2018-2019 season.  They certainly have their limits, but to say they’re never willing to pay the tax is just making things up.  So either this executive doesn’t know what he’s talking about or doesn’t exist.

Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2021, 05:38:46 PM »

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Evan Fournier Free Agency:

“He’s going to look for $15-20 million a year,” an NBA executive estimated when speaking to HoopsHype. “I’m not sure where he gets that from. They’ll have to keep him since they can’t replace him. It’ll be interesting because they have never been willing to pay the tax, so getting around that will be hard for them. If they let him walk, there’s no replacement.” – via Michael Scotto


Sounds about right....

This is demonstrably false.  The Celtics have paid the luxury tax seven time since the current ownership group took over, most recently in the 2018-2019 season.  They certainly have their limits, but to say they’re never willing to pay the tax is just making things up.  So either this executive doesn’t know what he’s talking about or doesn’t exist.
Doubly bad that the journalist would publish such a quote without actually fact-checking
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2021, 10:55:03 PM »

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Sounded pretty noncommittal about returning tonight.
Fair enough. There'll be plenty of suitors where his role will be much more well-defined
Yeah, I wouldn't be in a rush to stay with the Celtics if I were Fournier because of the lack of clarity over his role and his minutes. I would want to be a starter and get 30-35mpg.

Anybody that offers me comparable financial terms on a not lousy ball club while giving me a clearer role is the team that I would sign with.

That said, If Boston made some moves and say traded Marcus Smart and said "Evan, you're our starting SG next year" ... well then, that problem goes out the window.

Then it becomes money + opportunity to win a title. Someone could offer similar money but a better opportunity to win which would be unlucky / unlikely but possible. But at least it would remove that extra factor over role + minutes as a negative shadow over Evan returning here.
Well, good thing that we're going to absolutely shut him down if he's asking for anything close to 15 million then :laugh:
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« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2021, 10:58:34 PM »

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Sounded pretty noncommittal about returning tonight.
Fair enough. There'll be plenty of suitors where his role will be much more well-defined
Yeah, I wouldn't be in a rush to stay with the Celtics if I were Fournier because of the lack of clarity over his role and his minutes. I would want to be a starter and get 30-35mpg.

Anybody that offers me comparable financial terms on a not lousy ball club while giving me a clearer role is the team that I would sign with.

That said, If Boston made some moves and say traded Marcus Smart and said "Evan, you're our starting SG next year" ... well then, that problem goes out the window.

Then it becomes money + opportunity to win a title. Someone could offer similar money but a better opportunity to win which would be unlucky / unlikely but possible. But at least it would remove that extra factor over role + minutes as a negative shadow over Evan returning here.
Well, good thing that we're going to absolutely shut him down if he's asking for anything close to 15 million then :laugh:
I feel like he'll be able to find that kind of money easily if Bertans and Harris were able to
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2021, 11:41:16 PM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

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« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2021, 11:45:04 PM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

Re: Apparently Evan Fournier is all time historically…
« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2021, 12:38:41 AM »

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Evan is not coming back imo

Its time for Langford and Nesmith to take a leap. 

I like the reserve roster of TL, Parker, Langford, Nesmith, PP, Yam

Willing to give GWilliams one more look. See if he can take a leap as well

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« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2021, 12:48:40 AM »

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This will be one of Brad’s major decisions as President. Evan would certainly want a more defined role before committing to the team. If Kemba can be convinced to be a super 6th man then maybe Evan could be a starting SG with Smart as PG?

I want Romeo starting and both Kemba and Fournier coming off the bench, but you can’t have $50 million committed to your top 2 reserves, so that isn’t happening.

Didn’t Romeo mouth of to his coach now President of Basketball Operations?..he may be done. Brad will get rid of all the knuckleheads and he knows who they are.