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Re: Boston Celtics at Brooklyn Nets Round 1 Game 1 5/22/21
« Reply #765 on: May 22, 2021, 10:59:48 PM »

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Smart shooting watch: 6-13 FGA, 3-8 3PA.

Fittingly, the Cs lost the game.

For those who always question this "unique" win loss indicator, i would tell you that Smart played well in the 1st half with 3-6  FGA and the Cs leading by 6.

Then he had  around 8 minutes starting the 3rd quarter when he went gung ho, chucking quick thres and went 0-4. That's when the lead quickly evaporated, the Cs were losing and he was a big part of it.

Then, of course, like what he always does, he started making the next 3 shots, keeping us in the game for some time.

He hasn't taken any shots since then, and the Cs eventually lost the game.

So are we seeing the guy who burned the house or the guy who tried to help the girl upstair (unsuccesfully)?

Your analytics is junk science if you think this loss was on smart.

Numbers don't lie, my friend. Don't be mad.

The numbers in and of themselves are true, but you're a fool if you think they mean anything like what you are saying.

Exactly what I just told him. There may actually be a message her but it isnt what he is selling.

Re: Boston Celtics at Brooklyn Nets Round 1 Game 1 5/22/21
« Reply #766 on: May 22, 2021, 11:00:37 PM »

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Really nice to see Tatum rising to the challenge of defending KD!

C’s need to ruthlessly build around Tatum

Durant took Tatum out of the game in the 2nd half though, they need to solve that problem though

Tatum needs to decide that he isn’t going to be bullied by Durant.  They are going to try and physical Tatum out of his rhythm.  Tatum needs to play smart but he also needs to play agressive on both ends.

I think Tatum’s a lot “older” because of all his playoff experience (losing to Lebron twice, then Jimmy Butler). I don’t think he’s going to get mentally bullied by Durant. But he does need more help and sometimes, you just can’t win games if you don’t have enough help.

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Re: Boston Celtics at Brooklyn Nets Round 1 Game 1 5/22/21
« Reply #767 on: May 22, 2021, 11:01:06 PM »

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Smart shooting watch: 6-13 FGA, 3-8 3PA.

Fittingly, the Cs lost the game.

For those who always question this "unique" win loss indicator, i would tell you that Smart played well in the 1st half with 3-6  FGA and the Cs leading by 6.

Then he had  around 8 minutes starting the 3rd quarter when he went gung ho, chucking quick thres and went 0-4. That's when the lead quickly evaporated, the Cs were losing and he was a big part of it.

Then, of course, like what he always does, he started making the next 3 shots, keeping us in the game for some time.

He hasn't taken any shots since then, and the Cs eventually lost the game.

So are we seeing the guy who burned the house or the guy who tried to help the girl upstair (unsuccesfully)?

Honestly this is such a crazy take that I'm unsure whether it's actually satire.

You might want to put down the crack pipe if you watched this game and came away with the conclusion that we lost because of Smart shooting more than 11 shots, especially given that he was probably the second best C's player tonight behind Timelord.
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Re: Boston Celtics at Brooklyn Nets Round 1 Game 1 5/22/21
« Reply #768 on: May 22, 2021, 11:01:12 PM »

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I kind of feel for Fournier. I think he's also confused as to his role exactly on this team currently.

It’s easy to say he should be averaging 15+ PPG and yadda yadda, but is the team and scheme putting him in the position to do that?

Like I know Smart shot 6-13 tonight but is it really wise to have him taking more shots than Fournier consistently?

What exactly do the C’s want from Fournier, to be the 3rd option or more of a 4th/5th guy? Seems unclear. It’s kind of like when we had Hayward and at times they couldn’t figure out how to utilize him because of the way the roster was constructed.
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Re: Boston Celtics at Brooklyn Nets Round 1 Game 1 5/22/21
« Reply #769 on: May 22, 2021, 11:04:22 PM »

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Put down the crack pipe ?? A little personal and over the top, don't you think ?

The guy made an observation that wasn't entirely wrong and Smart regularly hurts us with his shooting - as many have stated on this board repeatedly.
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« Reply #770 on: May 22, 2021, 11:08:09 PM »

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Timelord just one rebound and one block short of a triple double.  helluva game from him.  hoping he can bring it like this the rest of the series. 

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« Reply #771 on: May 22, 2021, 11:09:34 PM »

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Timelord just one rebound and one block short of a triple double.  helluva game from him.  hoping he can bring it like this the rest of the series.

He was even defending very well on the perimeter, which has been a weakness of his in the past. 

I don't know how much basketball he has left in that toe of his this season, but we need every bit of it.  Guy changes games.  I just hope he isn't risking a more serious injury by trying to play through it. 

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« Reply #772 on: May 22, 2021, 11:12:56 PM »

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Timelord just one rebound and one block short of a triple double.  helluva game from him.  hoping he can bring it like this the rest of the series.

He was even defending very well on the perimeter, which has been a weakness of his in the past. 

I don't know how much basketball he has left in that toe of his this season, but we need every bit of it.  Guy changes games.  I just hope he isn't risking a more serious injury by trying to play through it.

Just hope he is not injury prone and can stay healthy for long stretches of the season. Keep improving and develop some offense and he could be our guy. Need a strong 4 to help him.
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Re: Boston Celtics at Brooklyn Nets Round 1 Game 1 5/22/21
« Reply #773 on: May 22, 2021, 11:14:29 PM »

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Timelord just one rebound and one block short of a triple double.  helluva game from him.  hoping he can bring it like this the rest of the series.

He was even defending very well on the perimeter, which has been a weakness of his in the past. 

I don't know how much basketball he has left in that toe of his this season, but we need every bit of it.  Guy changes games.  I just hope he isn't risking a more serious injury by trying to play through it.
I'm thinking that with how much he's improved this season, the team needs to do what it can to maximize his health for next season and find another athletic big man to back him up.  TT has his moments but he is just awful on the offensive end of the floor.

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« Reply #774 on: May 22, 2021, 11:15:43 PM »

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#1 None of our Big 3 played well, while theirs did.
Timelord was outstanding.
JP, TT, and Smart played well.
Nesmith was OK for a rookie, PP did nothing.
Our bench outscored theirs by 12.
The defense was good about limiting anyone outside their Big 3.
The shooting was awful.
Improve the offense and we can win.

TimeLord should start and guard Harden.  He was giving him fits. Griffin did squat.

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« Reply #775 on: May 22, 2021, 11:17:23 PM »

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Put down the crack pipe ?? A little personal and over the top, don't you think ?

The guy made an observation that wasn't entirely wrong and Smart regularly hurts us with his shooting - as many have stated on this board repeatedly.

I mean, it's a common and obvious over the top statement, so in what way is it "personal" - unless he/she's really into that stuff, at which point my advice to put it down is actually really good advice.  ;) ;D

But, no, it is a really bad take. They're trying to argue that their theory of Smart shooting more than 11 times as a barometer of the team's success is a good argument based on tonight's game - even though the context from tonight's game is exactly the opposite and disproves the argument. Without Smart the team is blown out by 30 tonight, so trying to make this kind of argument without any consideration of the context is absolutely a bad take.
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« Reply #776 on: May 22, 2021, 11:18:58 PM »

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Brad gets a shout-out for playing Parker over Grant or Semi.

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« Reply #777 on: May 22, 2021, 11:21:00 PM »

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TL needs to be extended yesterday

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« Reply #778 on: May 22, 2021, 11:23:53 PM »

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Timelord just one rebound and one block short of a triple double.  helluva game from him.  hoping he can bring it like this the rest of the series.

He was even defending very well on the perimeter, which has been a weakness of his in the past. 

I don't know how much basketball he has left in that toe of his this season, but we need every bit of it.  Guy changes games.  I just hope he isn't risking a more serious injury by trying to play through it.
I'm thinking that with how much he's improved this season, the team needs to do what it can to maximize his health for next season and find another athletic big man to back him up.  TT has his moments but he is just awful on the offensive end of the floor.

With regards to his health, I think he'll need to learn to pick his spots on when to jump out of the gym.  Those repeated explosions are likely to blame for this current toe injury.  Wear and tear is a part of basketball, and obviously he has to do it to play his game, but there are also a lot of times when it seems like he jumps just because he can.  I think cutting most of the unnecessary acrobatics out will help his long-term health. 

I can do without the nightly crashes, too.  Nesmith got the nickname but Williams seems to hit the floor just as often, lol. 

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« Reply #779 on: May 22, 2021, 11:25:17 PM »

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I kind of feel for Fournier. I think he's also confused as to his role exactly on this team currently.

It’s easy to say he should be averaging 15+ PPG and yadda yadda, but is the team and scheme putting him in the position to do that?

Like I know Smart shot 6-13 tonight but is it really wise to have him taking more shots than Fournier consistently?

What exactly do the C’s want from Fournier, to be the 3rd option or more of a 4th/5th guy? Seems unclear. It’s kind of like when we had Hayward and at times they couldn’t figure out how to utilize him because of the way the roster was constructed.

Like most of our team who have been tried and found wanting (GWill, Semi, Kornet, etc) Fournier is being asked to fill a role higher than what he would otherwise be ideal for. Remember we got him to be a player who could contribute 12-15 points off the bench as a sixth man. But because of injury to JB he’s having to be more of a frontline option.

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