Imagine If We Had Traded Brown and Picks for Harden

[Ogaju]

We didn't. Get over it.

If you guys are going to continue making the woulda, coulda, shoulda threads, at least make them original and interesting. This thread has been made about 10 times already.

We’re you a yea or nay on Harden?

By the way this thread is fresh because it is dealing with how great the move was for Nets when so many here predicted it would not work.

[W8ting2McHale]

Our worst move of the year, and likely the 2020s, was not moving Jaylen for Harden when the opportunity was there... The Nets get the last laugh, and Danny let it happen because Harden was ours if we parted with Jaylen.

I am having trouble reconciling the above opinion with this sentiment: Treating everyone as disposable assets/liabilities, with no loyalty to anybody, is not how we won 17 titles.

They seem to be diametrically opposed? Sending Jaylen and whoever else out for Harden seems to be the definition of treating everyone like disposable assets, yet you seem to be against that?

[Ogaju]

Our worst move of the year, and likely the 2020s, was not moving Jaylen for Harden when the opportunity was there... The Nets get the last laugh, and Danny let it happen because Harden was ours if we parted with Jaylen.

I am having trouble reconciling the above opinion with this sentiment: Treating everyone as disposable assets/liabilities, with no loyalty to anybody, is not how we won 17 titles.

They seem to be diametrically opposed? Sending Jaylen and whoever else out for Harden seems to be the definition of treating everyone like disposable assets, yet you seem to be against that?

I think even Brown would have understood the move. Let’s see what loyalty Brown shows going forward.

[SHAQATTACK]

Is it Harden didn’t want to be in Boston or  CBS doesn’t want  to try and coach him or DA has lost his daring edge ?

You got to use your chances and assets and make trades , take chances like DA did with KG .

At least Raptors got one title and had a real shot .

keep screwing around and both J’s will bolt for Lakers to be with AD when Lebum has to retire .

Lakers will be using them against our next tank team and laughing.

[keevsnick]

Ya I actually think its an incredibly good thing we DID NOT trade Brown for Harden right now. Kemba has come out and looked pretty rough overall. Our team defense overall has looked incredibly rough. Our bench sucks worse than we thought. Even Tatum has probably overall played worse than i expected given his drop in defense, and his not even average TS% (understandable given Covid, but still). Harden on this team would help for sure, but I don't think it would have elevated us into top tier contention. And there's no telling whether Harden would have been as happy playing here in this situation as he has been in BRK, its possible if we struggled at all its a complete disaster. Given that Harden was a win now move and we appear to be worse than we thought we would be this year it probably would have been a bad idea. He just didnt wnat to be here, I doubt he'd handle the adversity we've faced this year well.

[BringToughnessBack]

Yes we all know Harden who have resigned with the Celtics like Kyrie and Hayward. Why constantly try to stir crap up on this forum? Still dreaming of a block feature. Why could we not get rid of Brown and lose Harden next year and have Tatum demand a trade soon after. Why oh why.

[blink]

imagine the fireball in here when Harden bolted and we lost Jaylen for nothing.
I think it would spontaneously combust.

DA absolutely did the right thing.  Take the long view.  Keep JB and JT together, find complimentary players, set us up for multiple runs, not one year until Harden bolts.

[gouki88]

Given that we would have the MVP partnered with Tatum, would we have the best record in the league or the second best after Utah? Would Griffin and Aldridge have just joined us instead of New Jersey? Speaking of the Nets, would Kyrie have mentally imploded by now?

Our worst move of the year, and likely the 2020s, was not moving Jaylen for Harden when the opportunity was there. Now we’ve got zero shot at a title this year and next. It does not matter that we “beat” the Nets in a trade in 2013 that ultimately produced no titles, not even an eastern conference title. That’s ancient history and nobody cares anymore. The Nets get the last laugh, and Danny let it happen because Harden was ours if we parted with Jaylen.

Danny is clearly toast (the big move is trading for Fournier, who’s not even able to play for who knows how long?). When will Wyc tell Danny it’s time to retire? This off-season or do we need to put with another 1-3 years of this abject nonsense?

We would've got Jokic?

[indeedproceed]

Given that we would have the MVP partnered with Tatum, would we have the best record in the league or the second best after Utah? Would Griffin and Aldridge have just joined us instead of New Jersey? Speaking of the Nets, would Kyrie have mentally imploded by now?

Our worst move of the year, and likely the 2020s, was not moving Jaylen for Harden when the opportunity was there. Now we’ve got zero shot at a title this year and next. It does not matter that we “beat” the Nets in a trade in 2013 that ultimately produced no titles, not even an eastern conference title. That’s ancient history and nobody cares anymore. The Nets get the last laugh, and Danny let it happen because Harden was ours if we parted with Jaylen.

Danny is clearly toast (the big move is trading for Fournier, who’s not even able to play for who knows how long?). When will Wyc tell Danny it’s time to retire? This off-season or do we need to put with another 1-3 years of this abject nonsense?

We would've got Jokic?

We would've got Lillard?

[gouki88]

Given that we would have the MVP partnered with Tatum, would we have the best record in the league or the second best after Utah? Would Griffin and Aldridge have just joined us instead of New Jersey? Speaking of the Nets, would Kyrie have mentally imploded by now?

Our worst move of the year, and likely the 2020s, was not moving Jaylen for Harden when the opportunity was there. Now we’ve got zero shot at a title this year and next. It does not matter that we “beat” the Nets in a trade in 2013 that ultimately produced no titles, not even an eastern conference title. That’s ancient history and nobody cares anymore. The Nets get the last laugh, and Danny let it happen because Harden was ours if we parted with Jaylen.

Danny is clearly toast (the big move is trading for Fournier, who’s not even able to play for who knows how long?). When will Wyc tell Danny it’s time to retire? This off-season or do we need to put with another 1-3 years of this abject nonsense?

We would've got Jokic?

We would've got Lillard?

I'm convinced that Lillard could average 40/10 and still evade MVP discussion. Sad stuff

[ozgod]

We didn't. Get over it.

If you guys are going to continue making the woulda, coulda, shoulda threads, at least make them original and interesting. This thread has been made about 10 times already.

People love woulda coulda shoulda threads because they are perpetually hypothetical. 

[tenn_smoothie]

I don't want that self-centered cancer on this team. He showed his true character the last season in Houston.
Kyrie is a ticking time-bomb waiting on his next psycho melt-down. He showed his true character the last season in Boston.
Durant is an immature, over-sensitive star in love with himself. He showed his true character when he jumped on the bandwagon with Golden State.

Those three are a fragile combination, who are injury prone, averse to playing tough defense and who tend to fade as the playoffs progress.
The playoffs are a different game from the regular season and are not for the mentally weak.

[Sophomore]

Getting Harden guarantees us a title? Did it guarantee Houston a title when he was there? Tatum is an all-star, but Harden played with all-stars in Houston too.

Brooklyn is favored because a lot of ppl thought they were the strongest team in the East *before* they got Harden and then kept their key players in the deal. I’m not at all certain this Brooklyn team, with Harden, is getting by Philly and Milwaukee.

[moiso]

We didn't. Get over it.

If you guys are going to continue making the woulda, coulda, shoulda threads, at least make them original and interesting. This thread has been made about 10 times already.

We’re you a yea or nay on Harden?

By the way this thread is fresh because it is dealing with how great the move was for Nets when so many here predicted it would not work.

Harden has been amazing but we still have no idea exactly how the trade worked because the  big 3 haven't had a chance to play together.  This is when potential problems could arise... not when Harden and one or none of the other 2 play in the games.  Irving is already taking half of the games off for one reason or another.  There is still a chance that Irving won't be able to handle playing 3rd fiddle and will self destruct and not be there for the playoffs due to real or exaggerated injuries or just personal issues.  So I think while Harden himself has definitely worked out, it's too early to assume it will all be peachy for the team the rest of the way.

[Rikibellevie]

I imagine we would be 2d or 3rd in our conference. I imagine we would be too thin to win it all as Tatum and the supporting cast is too young. Not mentionning the very bad fit Kemba/Harden at gards. Not mentionning that as great year he is doing in Nets, he is still not a champion for now.
I imagine that he would have leaved us in one year when a biggest market open for him. I imagine also that his defense won't improve at this stage and he may fall a cliff much before LeBron with his ethics and mental. So even if we resign him to supermax from his 33 to his 37 I guess we could regret it.
I imagine that then, we would have a lot of regreat to see Brown beginig to perform as a franchise player in Houston or elsewhere.

But that is just my imagination, like it is for the affirmations Harden would surely mad us pass to th last step as soon as this year.