Imagine If We Had Traded Brown and Picks for Harden

[GreenlyGreeny]

Given that we would have the MVP partnered with Tatum, would we have the best record in the league or the second best after Utah? Would Griffin and Aldridge have just joined us instead of New Jersey? Speaking of the Nets, would Kyrie have mentally imploded by now?

Our worst move of the year, and likely the 2020s, was not moving Jaylen for Harden when the opportunity was there. Now we’ve got zero shot at a title this year and next. It does not matter that we “beat” the Nets in a trade in 2013 that ultimately produced no titles, not even an eastern conference title. That’s ancient history and nobody cares anymore. The Nets get the last laugh, and Danny let it happen because Harden was ours if we parted with Jaylen.

Danny is clearly toast (the big move is trading for Fournier, who’s not even able to play for who knows how long?). When will Wyc tell Danny it’s time to retire? This off-season or do we need to put with another 1-3 years of this abject nonsense?

[Ogaju]

Not moving Brown for Harden was dumb, period.

[Who]

Yes, we would've been the best team in the East.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Not moving Brown for Harden was dumb, period.

Oh but Brown’s a 24 year old wing and Danny loves his wings and our wings are just going to bring us so much winning we’re going to get sick of winning. Brown is just tremendous and Harden’s on the wrong side of 30. Let’s let Kyrie and Durant have him cause our wings are better and younger.

No, we simply passed up the MVP and let Kyrie win a championship with the Nets, if not have his own dynasty. It’s beyond dumb we passed up Harden. I’m so over Danny and the infatuation with him and defense of him.

[Goldstar88]

Harden did not want to be in Boston. Danny isn’t going to trade Brown for a player that would have walked in one year.

[Birdman]

If Ainge traded Brown then ppl would be mad lol,, so dang if u do, dang if u don’t

[Ogaju]

Not moving Brown for Harden was dumb, period.

Oh but Brown’s a 24 year old wing and Danny loves his wings and our wings are just going to bring up so much winning we’re going to get sick of winning. Brown is just tremendous and Harden’s on the wrong side of 30.

No, we simply passed up the MVP and let Kyrie win a championship with the Net, if not multiple titles. It’s beyond dumb. I’m so over Danny and the infatuation with him and defense of him.

The guy was available, he actually put Boston on the list of teams he would go to, he is probably the most innovative offensive player in the last 20 years. He makes up moves the entire league copies. He makes up moves that garner the attention of the officials. Gets to the line at an alarming rate. Perennial MVP candidate, perennial scoring champion, first ballot Hall of Famer, hungry for a ring. Can rack up Assists with the best of them, yet he was not good enough for the pristine Cs.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Harden did not want to be in Boston. Danny isn’t going to trade Brown for a player that would have walked in one year.

That’s not true. We were on Harden’s list and we’d have had him this year and next at the very least. I’ll take two titles in exchange for Brown, especially since Beal would have been Harden’s replacement in 2023 if he left us.

It was a moronic move by Danny. Danny thinks he knows better than everyone else when he is just a GM who got lucky with KG back in the day and drafting Tatum later on. Without either one of those moves, he’d totally be gone by now, many years ago in terms of the former.

[Yuckabuck33]

I'm glad he didn't make that trade. Ainge is not giving up Tatum or Brown. No way, no how.
A lot of people criticize Danny for not making a trade that helps in the short term, even if it could win chip.
To Ainge, he's already done that and got the 2008 T shirt. But it didn't last. A KG knee injury here, a Bennet Salvatore changing how the game was called in the 4th quarter of game 7 there, and that team's window was closed.
Ainge wants to leave the job with a dynasty started. The posters who say that Ainge needs to decide whether he wants to win now or build for the future are missing that he wants both. Win now WITHOUT losing the pieces of the future winning.
(Granted, his win now plan was squashed by Hayward's injury and AD preferring the Lakers. If the plan worked, we would have already won a chip, with the Js being the future.)
But there was NO WAY Ainge would have traded Jaylen for 31 year old James Harden.

[Ogaju]

I'm glad he didn't make that trade. Ainge is not giving up Tatum or Brown. No way, no how.
A lot of people criticize Danny for not making a trade that helps in the short term, even if it could win chip.
To Ainge, he's already done that and got the 2008 T shirt. But it didn't last. A KG knee injury here, a Bennet Salvatore changing how the game was called in the 4th quarter of game 7 there, and that team's window was closed.
Ainge wants to leave the job with a dynasty started. The posters who say that Ainge needs to decide whether he wants to win now or build for the future are missing that he wants both. Win now WITHOUT losing the pieces of the future winning.
(Granted, his win now plan was squashed by Hayward's injury and AD preferring the Lakers. If the plan worked, we would have already won a chip, with the Js being the future.)
But there was NO WAY Ainge would have traded Jaylen for 31 year old James Harden.

How were you getting AD without giving up a Jay?

[GreenlyGreeny]

I'm glad he didn't make that trade. Ainge is not giving up Tatum or Brown. No way, no how.
A lot of people criticize Danny for not making a trade that helps in the short term, even if it could win chip.
To Ainge, he's already done that and got the 2008 T shirt. But it didn't last. A KG knee injury here, a Bennet Salvatore changing how the game was called in the 4th quarter of game 7 there, and that team's window was closed.
Ainge wants to leave the job with a dynasty started. The posters who say that Ainge needs to decide whether he wants to win now or build for the future are missing that he wants both. Win now WITHOUT losing the pieces of the future winning.
(Granted, his win now plan was squashed by Hayward's injury and AD preferring the Lakers. If the plan worked, we would have already won a chip, with the Js being the future.)
But there was NO WAY Ainge would have traded Jaylen for 31 year old James Harden.

And this is both why Kyrie left and why Kyrie is going to win the title this year. Think about it. There’s no dynasty walking through that door either.

[Yuckabuck33]

I'm glad he didn't make that trade. Ainge is not giving up Tatum or Brown. No way, no how.
A lot of people criticize Danny for not making a trade that helps in the short term, even if it could win chip.
To Ainge, he's already done that and got the 2008 T shirt. But it didn't last. A KG knee injury here, a Bennet Salvatore changing how the game was called in the 4th quarter of game 7 there, and that team's window was closed.
Ainge wants to leave the job with a dynasty started. The posters who say that Ainge needs to decide whether he wants to win now or build for the future are missing that he wants both. Win now WITHOUT losing the pieces of the future winning.
(Granted, his win now plan was squashed by Hayward's injury and AD preferring the Lakers. If the plan worked, we would have already won a chip, with the Js being the future.)
But there was NO WAY Ainge would have traded Jaylen for 31 year old James Harden.

How were you getting AD without giving up a Jay?

There were tons of creative scenarios on this board, probably involving Gordon Hayward. I'm not going to look back. Anyway, Jaylen has taken steps forward since then and I don't believe that Ainge will trade him for a short term window, even MVP Harden. I'm not saying that that is the best way forward, but it seems consistent with everything Ainge has done over the past decade.

[Yuckabuck33]

I'm glad he didn't make that trade. Ainge is not giving up Tatum or Brown. No way, no how.
A lot of people criticize Danny for not making a trade that helps in the short term, even if it could win chip.
To Ainge, he's already done that and got the 2008 T shirt. But it didn't last. A KG knee injury here, a Bennet Salvatore changing how the game was called in the 4th quarter of game 7 there, and that team's window was closed.
Ainge wants to leave the job with a dynasty started. The posters who say that Ainge needs to decide whether he wants to win now or build for the future are missing that he wants both. Win now WITHOUT losing the pieces of the future winning.
(Granted, his win now plan was squashed by Hayward's injury and AD preferring the Lakers. If the plan worked, we would have already won a chip, with the Js being the future.)
But there was NO WAY Ainge would have traded Jaylen for 31 year old James Harden.

And this is both why Kyrie left and why Kyrie is going to win the title this year. Think about it. There’s no dynasty walking through that door either.

Kyrie left because he was a headcase. He came in calling Stevens a genius and left throwing shade at him. Kyrie thought the real coach would let him coach the team and make the decisions like coaches did for his teammate Lebron. But no one in Boston, thankfully, would indulge him. Good riddance.

Thinking that the Js can't be part of a dynasty someday is short sighted.

[RJ87]

We didn't. Get over it.

If you guys are going to continue making the woulda, coulda, shoulda threads, at least make them original and interesting. This thread has been made about 10 times already.

[Goldstar88]

Harden did not want to be in Boston. Danny isn’t going to trade Brown for a player that would have walked in one year.

That’s not true. We were on Harden’s list and we’d have had him this year and next at the very least. I’ll take two titles in exchange for Brown, especially since Beal would have been Harden’s replacement in 2023 if he left us.

It was a moronic move by Danny. Danny thinks he knows better than everyone else when he is just a GM who got lucky with KG back in the day and drafting Tatum later on. Without either one of those moves, he’d totally be gone by now, many years ago in terms of the former.

Harden wanted to go to the Nets from the very beginning. And where did he end up? Brooklyn. Must be a coincidence..,