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Could Oladipo be ultra-cheap?
« on: March 15, 2021, 06:54:24 PM »

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Is there any way Houston deals Oladipo for less than a #1?  Like, could a second rounder and Edwards get it done?

There should be more interest in him than is reported.  Houston apparently has interest in dealing him, but you just don’t see a lot of teams linked. That makes me think that his value is low right now, and he may be available at a bargain.

I know he’s a flight risk in free agency, but I’d trade the TPE for his Bird rights. 


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Re: Could Oladipo be ultra-cheap?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2021, 06:59:45 PM »

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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.


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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2021, 07:00:29 PM »

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Is there any way Houston deals Oladipo for less than a #1?  Like, could a second rounder and Edwards get it done?

There should be more interest in him than is reported.  Houston apparently has interest in dealing him, but you just don’t see a lot of teams linked. That makes me think that his value is low right now, and he may be available at a bargain.

I know he’s a flight risk in free agency, but I’d trade the TPE for his Bird rights.

absolutely if that is all it took. I would think they could get a better offer than that, however. But maybe not, because of the flight risk. Good thought.

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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.

You can trade Kemba in off-season to a team with cap space and get another, even bigger trade exception, especially if you are able to sign Victor to a contract. Oladipo and Smart in backcourt would be pretty cool, especially if Victor can regain his form.

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It'd be super risky for us. Add a legit 20-5-5 athlete for next to no cost (potentially), but know that he most likely leaves for Miami. Would he push us over the edge into genuine contention? If DA thinks so and we could sneak a chip out of it I'd be down, otherwise I think he's too likely to leave to be worth it to us and our 3 near-max contracts
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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.

You can trade Kemba in off-season to a team with cap space and get another, even bigger trade exception, especially if you are able to sign Victor to a contract. Oladipo and Smart in backcourt would be pretty cool, especially if Victor can regain his form.
If Kemba gets moved, it has to be for a better player. There's no way they salary dump him.

There's no reason to salary dump Kemba to afford Dipo. If you have Oladipo's Bird rights, you just pay him as much as you want.

The team staying under the tax this season means going over the next few years and, if that's so, I could not care less how much it costs Wyc.

Four near max guys? Who cares! Pay the tax! Get that title!

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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.

You can trade Kemba in off-season to a team with cap space and get another, even bigger trade exception, especially if you are able to sign Victor to a contract. Oladipo and Smart in backcourt would be pretty cool, especially if Victor can regain his form.
If Kemba gets moved, it has to be for a better player. There's no way they salary dump him.

There's no reason to salary dump Kemba to afford Dipo. If you have Oladipo's Bird rights, you just pay him as much as you want.

The team staying under the tax this season means going over the next few years and, if that's so, I could not care less how much it costs Wyc.

Four near max guys? Who cares! Pay the tax! Get that title!
It's not our money! ;D
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2021, 07:25:46 PM »

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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.

You can trade Kemba in off-season to a team with cap space and get another, even bigger trade exception, especially if you are able to sign Victor to a contract. Oladipo and Smart in backcourt would be pretty cool, especially if Victor can regain his form.
If Kemba gets moved, it has to be for a better player. There's no way they salary dump him.

There's no reason to salary dump Kemba to afford Dipo. If you have Oladipo's Bird rights, you just pay him as much as you want.

The team staying under the tax this season means going over the next few years and, if that's so, I could not care less how much it costs Wyc.

Four near max guys? Who cares! Pay the tax! Get that title!
Multiple sources have reported that Danny was shopping Kemba last season. Here's a report from the Athletic.

''League sources said Danny Ainge was trying to move Kemba Walker for a top 10 pick prior to the deadline. He dangled Kemba in front of Chicago and Cleveland, but neither team bit on the offer.''

https://theathletic.com/2204140/2020/11/19/the-nba-draft-is-over-but-the-offseasons-chaos-isnt-nba-power-rankings/

The Athletic ain't exactly Woj, but it's a reputable source.

Re: Could Oladipo be ultra-cheap?
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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.

You can trade Kemba in off-season to a team with cap space and get another, even bigger trade exception, especially if you are able to sign Victor to a contract. Oladipo and Smart in backcourt would be pretty cool, especially if Victor can regain his form.
If Kemba gets moved, it has to be for a better player. There's no way they salary dump him.

There's no reason to salary dump Kemba to afford Dipo. If you have Oladipo's Bird rights, you just pay him as much as you want.

The team staying under the tax this season means going over the next few years and, if that's so, I could not care less how much it costs Wyc.

Four near max guys? Who cares! Pay the tax! Get that title!
It's not our money! ;D
I've paid a crap ton of money at the Garden over the last two decades. Wyc has a bunch of my money. Time to spend it. 😎




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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2021, 07:29:47 PM »

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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.

You can trade Kemba in off-season to a team with cap space and get another, even bigger trade exception, especially if you are able to sign Victor to a contract. Oladipo and Smart in backcourt would be pretty cool, especially if Victor can regain his form.
If Kemba gets moved, it has to be for a better player. There's no way they salary dump him.

There's no reason to salary dump Kemba to afford Dipo. If you have Oladipo's Bird rights, you just pay him as much as you want.

The team staying under the tax this season means going over the next few years and, if that's so, I could not care less how much it costs Wyc.

Four near max guys? Who cares! Pay the tax! Get that title!
Multiple sources have reported that Danny was shopping Kemba last season. Here's a report from the Athletic.

''League sources said Danny Ainge was trying to move Kemba Walker for a top 10 pick prior to the deadline. He dangled Kemba in front of Chicago and Cleveland, but neither team bit on the offer.''

https://theathletic.com/2204140/2020/11/19/the-nba-draft-is-over-but-the-offseasons-chaos-isnt-nba-power-rankings/
Yeah, last summer.

When Kemba was hurt and the entire team salary was up in the air due to the impending Hayward dealings.

No reason now to deal him. Repeater luxury tax situation averted.

Re: Could Oladipo be ultra-cheap?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2021, 07:31:52 PM »

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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.

I wonder how true this is.  I know that there was a report last year that he mentioned it to other players.  I can't remember who reported that.  However, the only time I've seen it "reported" this year was by Kevin O'Connor, which means it's almost assuredly nonsense.

It's actually kind of comical how this rumor became something that fans think of as an absolute fact.  Here's the original report:



So, allegedly, he no longer wanted to be in Indy.  Why?  Probably because they've got one of the cheapest owners in the NBA.  However, the part about him being definitely bound for Miami is a media-created myth.  He mentioned he would be up to signing in, at minimum, Toronto, New York or Miami.  Who knows how many other opposing players he said "can I come play with you" to?

It's a silly rumor.  Maybe he ends up in Miami.  Or, maybe he just wants to play in a good environment where he can win.
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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.

I wonder how true this is.  I know that there was a report last year that he mentioned it to other players.  I can't remember who reported that.  However, the only time I've seen it "reported" this year was by Kevin O'Connor, which means it's almost assuredly nonsense.
Windhorst reported something about it not being any secret that Dipo wants Miami.

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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.

You can trade Kemba in off-season to a team with cap space and get another, even bigger trade exception, especially if you are able to sign Victor to a contract. Oladipo and Smart in backcourt would be pretty cool, especially if Victor can regain his form.
If Kemba gets moved, it has to be for a better player. There's no way they salary dump him.

There's no reason to salary dump Kemba to afford Dipo. If you have Oladipo's Bird rights, you just pay him as much as you want.

The team staying under the tax this season means going over the next few years and, if that's so, I could not care less how much it costs Wyc.

Four near max guys? Who cares! Pay the tax! Get that title!
Multiple sources have reported that Danny was shopping Kemba last season. Here's a report from the Athletic.

''League sources said Danny Ainge was trying to move Kemba Walker for a top 10 pick prior to the deadline. He dangled Kemba in front of Chicago and Cleveland, but neither team bit on the offer.''

https://theathletic.com/2204140/2020/11/19/the-nba-draft-is-over-but-the-offseasons-chaos-isnt-nba-power-rankings/
Yeah, last summer.

When Kemba was hurt and the entire team salary was up in the air due to the impending Hayward dealings.

No reason now to deal him. Repeater luxury tax situation averted.
Not if we use the TPE for Oladipo. Forget the repeater tax though. The luxury tax would explode through the roof in 2021/22 regardless of the repeater tax.

If Danny was ready to dump Kemba last season, I bet he's ready to dump him this season as well should an opportunity arise.

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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.

I wonder how true this is.  I know that there was a report last year that he mentioned it to other players.  I can't remember who reported that.  However, the only time I've seen it "reported" this year was by Kevin O'Connor, which means it's almost assuredly nonsense.
Windhorst reported something about it not being any secret that Dipo wants Miami.

When has Windy ever been right about anything?  He made a career out of being a wart on Lebron's rear, but I can't remember any real news he's reported before anybody else.  If anything, this is a "rumor" floated by the Heat to drive his value down.

Again, read the original report.  It's silly the way that this has been twisted.

EDIT:  Windy has covered all his bases:

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“Oladipo has been connected to Miami for months now...my feel is that Miami has their eye on bigger fish.”

“I’m not sure that the interest from Miami is as high as the interest from Oladipo.”
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It has to be the fact he has made it well known throughout the league he wants to play in Miami next year and Miami has the space to add him.

For Boston, it's got to be a question of why waste the TPE on someone that is almost certain to play elsewhere next year.

You can trade Kemba in off-season to a team with cap space and get another, even bigger trade exception, especially if you are able to sign Victor to a contract. Oladipo and Smart in backcourt would be pretty cool, especially if Victor can regain his form.
If Kemba gets moved, it has to be for a better player. There's no way they salary dump him.

There's no reason to salary dump Kemba to afford Dipo. If you have Oladipo's Bird rights, you just pay him as much as you want.

The team staying under the tax this season means going over the next few years and, if that's so, I could not care less how much it costs Wyc.

Four near max guys? Who cares! Pay the tax! Get that title!
Multiple sources have reported that Danny was shopping Kemba last season. Here's a report from the Athletic.

''League sources said Danny Ainge was trying to move Kemba Walker for a top 10 pick prior to the deadline. He dangled Kemba in front of Chicago and Cleveland, but neither team bit on the offer.''

https://theathletic.com/2204140/2020/11/19/the-nba-draft-is-over-but-the-offseasons-chaos-isnt-nba-power-rankings/
Yeah, last summer.

When Kemba was hurt and the entire team salary was up in the air due to the impending Hayward dealings.

No reason now to deal him. Repeater luxury tax situation averted.
Not if we use the TPE for Oladipo. Forget the repeater tax though. The luxury tax would explode through the roof in 2021/22 regardless of the repeater tax.

If Danny was ready to dump Kemba last season, I bet he'd dump him this season as well (for the right deal of course).
We could send Theis and Edwards out to stay under the tax. The tax can easily be averted and still manage to get Dipo, who, BTW, I would love here in Boston as a fourth star if he was willing to sign long term.

And as I said, I say keep all four guys the cost be danged. Wyc has made gigantic gobs of money as his franchise value has been raised by almost $3 billion since his purchase. Pay the money Wyc.