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Could we be sellers at the deadline?
« on: February 25, 2021, 08:45:31 AM »

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And realistically, do we have anybody worth selling?


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Re: Could we be sellers at the deadline?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2021, 08:48:43 AM »

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I'm sure there would be plenty of teams interested in Tatum and Brown.

After that??? Maybe R Williams, Nesmith or Prichard?

Thompson could be of interest to a playoff team in need of a decent back up center.

After that, not so much.

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2021, 08:51:57 AM »

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Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Thompson comes to mind.  Teague if some team really thinks its a setting thing and he can turn it around.  Grant? Semi?


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Re: Could we be sellers at the deadline?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2021, 09:12:43 AM »

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Not sure if there is much of a market for wine that has aged a few years past it’s recommended drinking time. We are not touching our two young stars. Market for Teague and TT is probably rather small although maybe the Lakers could use TT with Davis injury issues. No worthy assets are coming back in those potential dumps though.

 I guess it is always possible Smart could be dangled and if so, we know the tank is pulling into the driveway. Don't think Danny is going to float the newly drafted players like Pritchard because what could that help with?

Still have a feeling when all is said and done, we will be in the playoffs again. But for now, let us all enjoy the sky is falling trade threads and who will Danny miss in 2021 draft threads that will be popping up endlessly.

Have a feeling Danny will try and add a dumped player but we are just not that attractive right now vs going to the Nets or Sixers or Hornets( JK kind of...a nice center could move them up a bit)or one of many West teams. I see chance we get a dumped player is close to zero. If Hayward is in the playoffs this year and we are not, this board will be super fun and optimistic! 😁😎

Re: Could we be sellers at the deadline?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2021, 09:15:49 AM »

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Walker would be the big sell of course.  I doubt there is a ton of interest but probably some.  Then Thompson is "sellable" also likely.

Re: Could we be sellers at the deadline?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2021, 09:19:39 AM »

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- TT gone.  He came here for a deep playoff run. If Celts are barely a playoff team. Pretty sure he wouldnt mind joining a contender somewhere else. I would hope he could fetch a late 1st.

- Theis gone. Not bad not great. Not a true big. Use the money for something else. Already have TL as an energy big. Fetch a 2nd. Maybe a late 1st

- Semi.  3 and D with 6 threes made game outburst.  Should fetch a 2nd

- trade or waive Teague

Re: Could we be sellers at the deadline?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2021, 09:30:07 AM »

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As I've been saying for years, Boston should be doing everything possible to maximize the Jayson Tatum championship window.  If that means they sell, they should.  If that means they buy, they should.  If that means they do nothing, well maybe they shouldn't do that, but if that truly does, then they should.  This team needs to maximize Tatum.  They've needed to do it since basically the summer after his rookie year, and they just haven't done it.  Tatum is Boston's shot at a title.  Maximize his chances of leading the team to that goal.
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Re: Could we be sellers at the deadline?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2021, 09:48:50 AM »

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- TT gone.  He came here for a deep playoff run. If Celts are barely a playoff team. Pretty sure he wouldnt mind joining a contender somewhere else. I would hope he could fetch a late 1st.

- Theis gone. Not bad not great. Not a true big. Use the money for something else. Already have TL as an energy big. Fetch a 2nd. Maybe a late 1st

- Semi.  3 and D with 6 threes made game outburst.  Should fetch a 2nd

- trade or waive Teague

I guess if you consider that Theis is a UFA at the end of this contract, and you don't think you will want or be able to sign him next season, then there could be some strategic value in trading him but not if all you get is a second round pick.  Kind of the same for Ojeleye, I don't see the point for a second round pick.

Teague I would be fine trading for a second as he is not really helping the team or needed right now.

Thompson for a first could work but only if we don't need to take something back that we don't really need/want.  A contending team would need a TPE or something.

I don't think is very likely we are sellers per se. 

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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2021, 09:49:33 AM »

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Hornets and Raptors need  big men depth.
Theis + TT + SO to Hornets
C. Zeller + Timelord to Raptors

to Celtics:
Baynes + S. Johnson + N. Richards + Raptors 2022 FRP top 4 protected + Hornets 2023 FRP top 4 protected.

We may need to send out a couple second rounders and or raise the protections on the picks to the 8-10 range to make it more balanced but this three team trade can set us up for a superstar trade if one becomes available in 2022

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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2021, 09:52:01 AM »

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As I've been saying for years, Boston should be doing everything possible to maximize the Jayson Tatum championship window.  If that means they sell, they should.  If that means they buy, they should.  If that means they do nothing, well maybe they shouldn't do that, but if that truly does, then they should.  This team needs to maximize Tatum.  They've needed to do it since basically the summer after his rookie year, and they just haven't done it.  Tatum is Boston's shot at a title.  Maximize his chances of leading the team to that goal.

You’re Tatum’s biggest fan — by far. Do you have any friends that are fans of other teams? You could use some perspective. Tatum is a nice piece but he isn’t LeBron. Tatum’s absolute ceiling is Kawhi or PG — a guy you still need considerable other all stars around to have a tiny shot at winning anything.

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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2021, 09:55:04 AM »

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Tatum & Brown would be only 2 keepers..everyone else on the block
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2021, 09:55:56 AM »

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As I've been saying for years, Boston should be doing everything possible to maximize the Jayson Tatum championship window.  If that means they sell, they should.  If that means they buy, they should.  If that means they do nothing, well maybe they shouldn't do that, but if that truly does, then they should.  This team needs to maximize Tatum.  They've needed to do it since basically the summer after his rookie year, and they just haven't done it.  Tatum is Boston's shot at a title.  Maximize his chances of leading the team to that goal.

You’re Tatum’s biggest fan — by far. Do you have any friends that are fans of other teams? You could use some perspective. Tatum is a nice piece but he isn’t LeBron. Tatum’s absolute ceiling is Kawhi or PG — a guy you still need considerable other all stars around to have a tiny shot at winning anything.
I think Tatum ceiling is P. George while Brown's is Kawhi. The former is much more likely to materialize though

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2021, 09:57:43 AM »

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Tatum & Brown would be only 2 keepers..everyone else on the block

I would add Nesmith, Langford and Smart in this list. Less for sures but still a nice base to work with. TL also as the energy big/verticality off the bench

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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2021, 10:09:07 AM »

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As I've been saying for years, Boston should be doing everything possible to maximize the Jayson Tatum championship window.  If that means they sell, they should.  If that means they buy, they should.  If that means they do nothing, well maybe they shouldn't do that, but if that truly does, then they should.  This team needs to maximize Tatum.  They've needed to do it since basically the summer after his rookie year, and they just haven't done it.  Tatum is Boston's shot at a title.  Maximize his chances of leading the team to that goal.

You’re Tatum’s biggest fan — by far. Do you have any friends that are fans of other teams? You could use some perspective. Tatum is a nice piece but he isn’t LeBron. Tatum’s absolute ceiling is Kawhi or PG — a guy you still need considerable other all stars around to have a tiny shot at winning anything.
Earlier this week, Cowherd called him the 11th best player in the game.  ESPN at the start of the year had him at 9.  I live outside of Cleveland, and they would all basically trade their entire team for Tatum.  Tatum is a monster in the making and he is just 22 in year 4.  I agree he isn't Lebron (no one is), but he absolutely has top 3 player potential and will most likely be an annual contender for MVP.  He is a future franchise player.  You can watch his game and see this.  He is an excellent shooter, solid rebounder, developing play maker, and a plus defender (not elite, but certainly good enough).  Tatum has all of the tools.  He is also by far the most important player to determining whether or not Boston wins or loses games. 

Boston will not win a title unless Tatum reaches his full potential, so the team should be doing everything in its power to maximize Tatum's chance at reaching his full potential.  In addition, the moves should be geared around setting the team up to be deep enough and good enough to actually contend when Tatum does reach his full potential.  Brown is basically the only player on the team that you can comfortably say that about, as such everyone else should be on the chopping block (I do like what I've seen from RW, PP, and AN, but there are no guarantees they will be key rotation pieces at any point in their career).  Smart is just too injury prone to be relied upon, but certainly could still be a solid rotational piece in a couple of seasons.

And as I've been saying for years, this is the fundamental issue I have with the direction Ainge has taken the team.  Since basically the day he made the KG/PP trade, he has been trying to win, while also building for the future, and I absolutely 100% believe he harmed both paths by doing that.  He needed to pick a direction years ago and now frankly it is too late as the team just doesn't have the assets (on the team or in the future) to really effectively pick either path.  The one last shot was Harden, and Ainge was too gunshy to go all in, and has basically foreclosed Boston's window for at least 2 seasons.  Given that, he should absolutely be dumping Walker, dumping Thompson, seeing what he can get for Theis (and his great contract), etc.  Boston needs to add potential rotational pieces for a few seasons down the line, when Tatum will be truly ready.
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2021, 10:09:44 AM »

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As I've been saying for years, Boston should be doing everything possible to maximize the Jayson Tatum championship window.  If that means they sell, they should.  If that means they buy, they should.  If that means they do nothing, well maybe they shouldn't do that, but if that truly does, then they should.  This team needs to maximize Tatum.  They've needed to do it since basically the summer after his rookie year, and they just haven't done it.  Tatum is Boston's shot at a title.  Maximize his chances of leading the team to that goal.

You’re Tatum’s biggest fan — by far. Do you have any friends that are fans of other teams? You could use some perspective. Tatum is a nice piece but he isn’t LeBron. Tatum’s absolute ceiling is Kawhi or PG — a guy you still need considerable other all stars around to have a tiny shot at winning anything.
I think Tatum ceiling is P. George while Brown's is Kawhi. The former is much more likely to materialize though
You could argue that Tatum is already better than Paul George.  It is at least close enough to be a real discussion.
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