I would do Nesmith/TL/Romeo/PP in a Collins deal, but not Barnes.
Oh yeah, I'd give up the house for John Collins. Anything outside of Tatum & Jaylen is on the table. Multiple prospects, multiple picks, Smart. Find a package that works.
Collins would be amazing. To have him long term as the 3rd option next to Jaylen and Tatum gives Boston the nucleus of a title contender for the next 10 years. That is worth giving up a whole lot to make happen.
He'd do great alongside Theis as well. Chemistry wise.
Wouldn't want us to go after Collins. The way I see it, he's a one-dimensional player who's about to become overpaid. Thanks, but no thanks. I'd have zero interest in sacrificing trade assets for the right to overpay Collins during the offseason. The C's already got 2 go-to scorers in Tatum and Brown. Don't think we need a third score-first star. There won't be enough shots for everybody and we'd end up a dysfunctional team like we were in 2018/19 with Kyrie, Tatum and Brown.
If you ask me, our next big contract going forward should be a team oriented player. Either a point forward in the mold of Hayward or a stretch big/PnR specialist who's perfectly happy to play off the ball. Unfortunately, we already missed on Christian Wood and Jarrett Allen. Imo, Wood would have been the perfect 3rd option in our system. He can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot, he can shoot the 3, he's a terrific cutter, he's an elite PnR player on both sides of the court, he plays D on the perimeter, he protects the rim, you name it. Oh well...
No, I don't see it that way because Collins is not a ball-handler / self-creator.
He gets a lot of his points off of the PnR which will create instant interplay between Collins & Tatum / Jaylen -- creating and adding to chemistry (as opposed to hurting it). He also gets points off of transition and offensive rebounds which adds to offensive variety (easy high value points in the paint) and again does not interfere which Tatum or Jaylen.
His main one-on-one play is off of post ups which will take the ball out of our two main guys hands but all good scorers will take it out of their hands some. The question is how much -- and in Collins' case, I see very little. Certainly nothing to be concerned about.
On the defensive end, I am in line with GreenEnvy. I am higher on Collins' physical tools and capacity to become a solid or better defensive player. I see him as a two-way player long term.
I'm responding here cause the other thread is about Harrison Barnes.
What's the point in having a score-first overpaid star who'd be mostly playing off the ball behind the Jays? Sure, Collins is a PnR threat, but he also demands plenty of touches in the paint. If you love his PnR game, wouldn't we be better off targeting a much cheaper PnR specialist? For instance, Jarrett Allen scores 1.41 PPP out of the PnR this season, plus he protects the rim. Mo Wagner scores a whopping 1.67 PPP out of the PnR, plus he can shoot the 3. Chris Boucher scores 1.30 PPP out of the PnR, plus he can shoot the 3
and protect the rim! All 3 of them would be perfectly happy in a complementary role and they'd be relatively cheap. Collins scores 1.11 PPP out of the PnR this season. He can shoot the 3. He cannot protect the rim. He demands touches in the paint. At the same time, he'd be massively overpaid, especially given his role. Remember the days of the big 3 in Cleveland? The Cavs were paying Love max money, yet they were using him as a weak side shooter!
Btw, Brown cannot create shots for his teammates as a PnR ball handler. He's more of a drive-and-kick facilitator.
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