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A Series of Trades to Contend
« on: February 10, 2021, 12:33:29 AM »

Offline GreenlyGreeny

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Showing it as a four-way trade, but ultimately these would be three separate trades with three teams trading with us alone:

https://tradenba.com/trades/jjT8Iy88u

Note: Add the 2022-2023 1st swaps in the Kings trade

End result for this season:

Smart/Pritchard/Edwards
Hield/Teague/Langford
Tatum/Barnes/Nesmith
KAT/Theis/Ojeyele
TT/R. Williams/Uzubuike

In the off-season, only Ojeyele and Theis might not come back, but would like to see us get Theis back (obviously Teague is history, but not a good look trading him).

Even if we could not pull off the Kings trade (think they’d love to see Kemba mentor Fox and Haliburton, and if Kemba recovers they can flip him next year or the off-season after for a pick or two):

Kemba/Pritchard/Edwards
Smart/Teague/Langford
Tatum/Ojeyele/Nesmith
KAT/Theis
TT/R. Williams/Uzubuike

If all the trades worked: We’re out Kemba’s chronic knees, JB (last time two wings were the two best players on a championship team? Jordan/Pippen?), our 2021 picks (added Uzubuike and in terms of our youth only parted with G. Williams; we’ve got enough youth, especially with Yam Madar coming) and irrelevant swaps in 2022-2023 (can’t see the Kings being better than us).

In turn, we’ve added KAT (perfect complement to Tatum), a future replacement for TT In Uzubuike (could become the next Mutombo), a scorer in Hield on a lengthy contract to make up for some of the lost production of JB/Kemba, and much-needed depth/championship experience with Barnes (gives us the luxury of load management for Tatum when we face basement dwellers at the end of the season, and he’s still in his 20s despite seemingly being around a long time). Well worth it to make these trades and put us in a position to compete to win a title this year and beyond...
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Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2021, 07:43:41 AM »

Offline celticsfanAUS

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With Jaylens production this year we’d be crazy to send him out to anyone. He’s got the potential to improve even further, as does tatum whos still only very young. A duo of Brown and Tatum at their peak in 2 - 3 years time is something that i’d love to see, and if Ainge can build around that banner 18 is would be very close

Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2021, 09:13:55 AM »

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Showing it as a four-way trade, but ultimately these would be three separate trades with three teams trading with us alone:

https://tradenba.com/trades/jjT8Iy88u

Note: Add the 2022-2023 1st swaps in the Kings trade

End result for this season:

Smart/Pritchard/Edwards
Hield/Teague/Langford
Tatum/Barnes/Nesmith
KAT/Theis/Ojeyele
TT/R. Williams/Uzubuike

In the off-season, only Ojeyele and Theis might not come back, but would like to see us get Theis back (obviously Teague is history, but not a good look trading him).

Even if we could not pull off the Kings trade (think they’d love to see Kemba mentor Fox and Haliburton, and if Kemba recovers they can flip him next year or the off-season after for a pick or two):

Kemba/Pritchard/Edwards
Smart/Teague/Langford
Tatum/Ojeyele/Nesmith
KAT/Theis
TT/R. Williams/Uzubuike

If all the trades worked: We’re out Kemba’s chronic knees, JB (last time two wings were the two best players on a championship team? Jordan/Pippen?), our 2021 picks (added Uzubuike and in terms of our youth only parted with G. Williams; we’ve got enough youth, especially with Yam Madar coming) and irrelevant swaps in 2022-2023 (can’t see the Kings being better than us).

In turn, we’ve added KAT (perfect complement to Tatum), a future replacement for TT In Uzubuike (could become the next Mutombo), a scorer in Hield on a lengthy contract to make up for some of the lost production of JB/Kemba, and much-needed depth/championship experience with Barnes (gives us the luxury of load management for Tatum when we face basement dwellers at the end of the season, and he’s still in his 20s despite seemingly being around a long time). Well worth it to make these trades and put us in a position to compete to win a title this year and beyond...
so the breakdown of the deal is this for the convenience of other readers:

Celtics out: Jaylen, Kemba, GWill, Green, 1 first and 1 second.  In: KAT, Hield, Azubuike, Barnes.
Minny out: KAT  In: Jaylen, Green
Kings out: Hield, Barnes.  In: Kemba, 1st round pick
Utah out: Azubuike.  In: GWill, 2nd round pick.

no one goes for this.  no one.   C's give up 2 all-stars while getting buried with salary.  not even value for any to the other teams to even consider it.   I think the world of Jaylen but he's not bringing back KAT with that much time under contract.  for that matter, the trade projection still project 3 less wins with those new players.  at least if you're going to try to stack the deck, get at least a positive number for projected wins.

Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2021, 09:24:11 AM »

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Just keep Jaylen Brown

Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2021, 10:29:16 AM »

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JB isn't going anywhere. You don't get rid of a guy like him you build around him. If I'm Danny I'm going after Vucevic.

Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2021, 10:30:59 AM »

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Jaylen Brown is the least likely player on the Cs to be traded, without question.


Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2021, 10:36:29 AM »

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At this point, trades are to add to what Tatum and Brown can do.   

Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2021, 01:29:25 PM »

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Yeah, I'm another one that wouldn't trade Jaylen for Towns. Jaylen has surpassed him.

Towns has too many bad habits / bad attitude towards defense & doing the little things that win games. Too concerned with his own numbers and not enough with the team winning or losing. Not worth sacrificing Jaylen for.

Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2021, 04:14:19 PM »

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Count me among those who consider Jaylen out of the question re: trades unless we're getting back . . . well . . . somebody who wouldn't be traded.

Also:


Teams don't contend by making a "series" of trades mid-season.  At most you make a trade for one significant piece mid-season that makes all the difference (e.g. Pau Gasol, Rasheed Wallace etc).

If you need to make a "series" of trades then your team isn't in contention and you may as well wait until the off-season, unless you think you'll get the players involved at a better price by going after them at the deadline.
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Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2021, 04:18:42 PM »

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Love these 4-team trades.

Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2021, 04:19:20 PM »

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Except for this one.

Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2021, 04:40:46 PM »

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Oye.

Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2021, 05:13:23 PM »

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I'll tell ya a series of moves to contend (if this board was an NBA GM). Trade the whole roster for:

Lonzo Ball
George Hill
Harrison Barnes
Thad Young
Al Horford

We'd contend all right.... for the #1 pick in the draft!




Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2021, 07:34:37 PM »

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There’s only 5 players I’d want to keep:
Tatum
Brown
Smart
Pritchard
Theis
In that order.

Everyone else can go, IMO. I love Kemba, but he’s an expensive third banana and his skill set doesn’t exactly compliment the Jays.

Maybe trade Kemba for Randle and a pick? Then move Thompson (and others/picks) for a legit playmaker/shooter. Hold the TPE for the summer and see who’s available via trade/free agency.

CELTICS 2024

Re: A Series of Trades to Contend
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2021, 07:37:03 PM »

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I'll tell ya a series of moves to contend (if this board was an NBA GM). Trade the whole roster for:

Lonzo Ball
George Hill
Harrison Barnes
Thad Young
Al Horford

We'd contend all right.... for the #1 pick in the draft!
Hahaha. TP!

And I agree!