Gimme your #1 trade target

[todd_days_41]

John Collins if he’s available.

Can someone share (considering this seems to be brought up a lot): other than the Hawks having lots of bigs, why would John Collins be available?

Extension talks went nowhere, Collins has voiced his displeasure with the organization, and he’s a pending RFA.  Plus, there have been rumors of his availability for months, at minimum.

If Atlanta doesn’t want to spend the money to extend him and say they did trade him to Boston...Can the Celtics afford to keep him with Kemba, Jaylen, and Jayson on max contracts?

You'd need to trade Walker.

[todd_days_41]

Second target for me and a clear overpay but:
Al Horford for    Triple T 😂
Tristan, Timelord and Teague

-We stay under the tax;
-open up roster spots;
-upgrade the center position;
-have salary to include in fireworks trade next year;
-remove uncertainty of TL future contract;
-save our draft picks;
-let Tristan get bought out and join a team of his liking so we don’t look bad for cutting him.
-we create a couple smaller trade exceptions to use in future trades

I'd trade Thompson and Teague for open roster spots. I'd give them to anyone who'd take 'em. Please..... someone take them.

No thanks on taking Horford.

And no thanks on trading Williams, please.

Well I added 8 bullets of silver linings maybe some of them would be legit considered by Danny and Brad

Fair enough. FWIW, guys rarely get bought out of contracts with additional years still guaranteed.

[Sophomore]

John Collins if he’s available.

Can someone share (considering this seems to be brought up a lot): other than the Hawks having lots of bigs, why would John Collins be available?

I've heard he doesn't like playing with Young, who dominates possessions. Not sure of the other reasons.

Other thing people speculate about is that he’s on an expiring deal and will demand the max next year. Given all the cap space teams are going to have and the scarcity at the top of the FA market, a lot of ppl think he will get it. If the Hawks don’t want to sign that deal they might rather get something for him. And if the Cs acquire him they better be ready to back up several Brinks trucks.

[Sophomore]

John Collins if he’s available.

Can someone share (considering this seems to be brought up a lot): other than the Hawks having lots of bigs, why would John Collins be available?

-Collins wants the Max. Atlanta has apparently offered around $90 Million which Collins and his Camp rejected.
-DA allegedly targeted him in a trade him last year.
-There was the report that Collins went at Trae Young's approach on offense in a film session.
-Deandre Hunter and Clint Capela have emerged as borderline elite frontcourt options. They also took Onyeka Okongwu at number 6 in the 2020 draft.
-Not that we would give him the max, but the idea is that he might take something around $90 million to play with Tatum and Brown.

I think New York or OKC or Spurs would give him more than $90M easily. So we have to be prepped to match otherwise it’s a rental

Collins is an RFA though so some of those teams might not be so inclined to tie up the required Cap Space during the start of a loaded free agency class. A Malcolm Brogdon style sign and trade would allow us to circumvent the whole ugly process if Collins wants to compete for titles.

Ppl thought it was going to be a loaded class, and then some of the top targets signed extensions.

[Tr1boy]

Barnes, Capela, Malik Monk, Alec Burks

[RJ87]

Realistically, Harrison Barnes.

Getting a big wing who can shoot would resolve a lot of issues. You can plug him in as a starter next to Kemba/JB/Jayson/Theis which would finally get us away from the double big lineup. It'd also put Smart back on the bench, meaning we could move forward with him and PP as primary bench guards, so very little Teague.

Its such a logical move that I don't expect us to pursue it.

[Vermont Green]

Thad Young from the Bulls

I say this not because he is the best player but because I feel it is realistic (for a #1 and some of the Hayward TPE) and because he would be helpful both playing as a big (our greatest need) and also as a wing (our second biggest need).

[Neurotic Guy]

Realistically, Harrison Barnes.

Getting a big wing who can shoot would resolve a lot of issues. You can plug him in as a starter next to Kemba/JB/Jayson/Theis which would finally get us away from the double big lineup. It'd also put Smart back on the bench, meaning we could move forward with him and PP as primary bench guards, so very little Teague.

Its such a logical move that I don't expect us to pursue it.

Barnes feels most right to me.   Seems getable and seems to check many boxes.   true value added to the roster.

[slamtheking]

Thad Young from the Bulls

I say this not because he is the best player but because I feel it is realistic (for a #1 and some of the Hayward TPE) and because he would be helpful both playing as a big (our greatest need) and also as a wing (our second biggest need).

have always been a big Thad supporter.  would love to get him but I just don't think he's on Danny's radar or will be made available in a deal

[dannyboy35]

John Collins if he’s available.

Can someone share (considering this seems to be brought up a lot): other than the Hawks having lots of bigs, why would John Collins be available?

I've heard he doesn't like playing with Young, who dominates possessions. Not sure of the other reasons.

Other thing people speculate about is that he’s on an expiring deal and will demand the max next year. Given all the cap space teams are going to have and the scarcity at the top of the FA market, a lot of ppl think he will get it. If the Hawks don’t want to sign that deal they might rather get something for him. And if the Cs acquire him they better be ready to back up several Brinks trucks.

   Yeah. I know some Bostonians will scream  he’s not a max player!  But he is if somebody gives it to him. All it takes is one team. I don’t mean people on the boards but the annoying casuals who just want a “ relevant” team.  That word infuriates me .

[td450]

Realistically, Harrison Barnes.

Getting a big wing who can shoot would resolve a lot of issues. You can plug him in as a starter next to Kemba/JB/Jayson/Theis which would finally get us away from the double big lineup. It'd also put Smart back on the bench, meaning we could move forward with him and PP as primary bench guards, so very little Teague.

Its such a logical move that I don't expect us to pursue it.

Sure it makes sense, but look at Sacramento tonight. They don't have anyone serious to take his place. They aren't going to go for just shedding his salary. He's not a franchise player, but he's a plus starter for them. So how do we get him?

[footey]

Let's keep it relatively realistic please. No Luka/Giannis/Kawhi/Jokic/you name it.

I'll go first.

De'Andre Hunter. He's a 3+D type of swing who has shown flashes of shot creation skills. He's also a willing passer. Reminds me a lot of Mikal Bridges, only 2 inches taller and about 2 inches longer. Problem is, why would the Hawks trade him? Well, they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. The C's got an elite guard defender in Marcus Smart.

Smart + minor asset for Hunter + filler would be a valid trade salary-wise.

What would be your #1 trade target?

You think a trade for DeAndre Hunter is relatively realistic, without offering Tatum or Brown? 

[DefenseWinsChamps]

I think part of the reason that Ainge has not gotten quality depth is directly related to what happened with Marcus Morris (and perhaps what is happening with Marcus Smart).

The Js are the future. The offense needs to be patient and feed them the ball. Too many veteran role players are too aggressive to try to prove themselves offensively, which makes the offense less patient, gives less touches to the Js, and lowers the ceiling of the offense overall. This is the main problem with many, many NBA players. They have undeniable talent, but they languish on bad teams because they feel like they have to prove their mediocre talent.

Thad Young and PJ Tucker are two guys who seem to be able to keep their usage low to accommodate players around them. I love the idea of Harrison Barnes next to Brown and Tatum, but ever since he left Golden State, he's been trying to prove he is a go-to scorer, and the teams he has played for have struggled because of it. If he was willing to limit his shot creation (we could use some, but not as much as he has grown accustomed to) and focus on defense and corner 3s, then he'd be perfect.

If the Celtics were able to pick up a player like the Warriors did when they got Andre Igoudala, that would be perfect. What player out there helps his team win games, but clearly isn't comfortable shooting as much as he currently does, and would love to play around high usage guys? 

Ironically, I thought Gordon Hayward could be perfect. I do think Kemba Walker is a good natural fit. SGA is one guy who came to mind. He reminds me a lot of Andre Igoudala from his Philly days. He's probably underqualified to be a franchise cornerstone, but he'd be a great fit as a low usage guy and switchy defender. But OKC isn't trading him yet. Malcolm Brodgon fits this mold of player, but even with Levert out, I don't think Indiana will become sellers. Jrue Holliday is probably the closest to this type of player, but the Bucks aren't selling unless a catastrophic injury happens. Ben Simmons is another guy that comes to mind, but he is not really within reach and is probably a little overqualified for what we are talking about here.

[footey]

Juancho Hernangomez
Josh Jackson
Justise Winslow
Otto Porter
Thad Young
Jabari Parker
Marv Bagley
Terrence Ross

[lrybrd]

I think part of the reason that Ainge has not gotten quality depth is directly related to what happened with Marcus Morris (and perhaps what is happening with Marcus Smart).

The Js are the future. The offense needs to be patient and feed them the ball. Too many veteran role players are too aggressive to try to prove themselves offensively, which makes the offense less patient, gives less touches to the Js, and lowers the ceiling of the offense overall. This is the main problem with many, many NBA players. They have undeniable talent, but they languish on bad teams because they feel like they have to prove their mediocre talent.

Thad Young and PJ Tucker are two guys who seem to be able to keep their usage low to accommodate players around them. I love the idea of Harrison Barnes next to Brown and Tatum, but ever since he left Golden State, he's been trying to prove he is a go-to scorer, and the teams he has played for have struggled because of it. If he was willing to limit his shot creation (we could use some, but not as much as he has grown accustomed to) and focus on defense and corner 3s, then he'd be perfect.

If the Celtics were able to pick up a player like the Warriors did when they got Andre Igoudala, that would be perfect. What player out there helps his team win games, but clearly isn't comfortable shooting as much as he currently does, and would love to play around high usage guys? 

Ironically, I thought Gordon Hayward could be perfect. I do think Kemba Walker is a good natural fit. SGA is one guy who came to mind. He reminds me a lot of Andre Igoudala from his Philly days. He's probably underqualified to be a franchise cornerstone, but he'd be a great fit as a low usage guy and switchy defender. But OKC isn't trading him yet. Malcolm Brodgon fits this mold of player, but even with Levert out, I don't think Indiana will become sellers. Jrue Holliday is probably the closest to this type of player, but the Bucks aren't selling unless a catastrophic injury happens. Ben Simmons is another guy that comes to mind, but he is not really within reach and is probably a little overqualified for what we are talking about here.

Completely agree with this assessment.   Any guy that we get needs to understand their role on this team and not be looking to maximize his future earnings.  Thus, while I would love to add Collins, I don't think that he would defer to the Js as he is looking for his next contract.  And, he would be looking to leave this team to go somewhere he would be the #1 or #2 option (similar to Gordon).  With this in mind, we need to look for guys who understand their role and are secure in playing it for the monies they are receiving it to do so.  So, I'd look for guts who have longer term contracts and aren't playing for a contract.  P.J. Hunter would be ideal even though he is playing for a contract as he only cares about being paid to play his role.  I think JJ would assimilate with our group as well.  Not so sure about Vucevic or A. Gordon.