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Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #90 on: February 04, 2021, 05:16:06 PM »

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Let's keep it relatively realistic please. No Luka/Giannis/Kawhi/Jokic/you name it.

I'll go first.

De'Andre Hunter. He's a 3+D type of swing who has shown flashes of shot creation skills. He's also a willing passer. Reminds me a lot of Mikal Bridges, only 2 inches taller and about 2 inches longer. Problem is, why would the Hawks trade him? Well, they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. The C's got an elite guard defender in Marcus Smart.

Smart + minor asset for Hunter + filler would be a valid trade salary-wise.

What would be your #1 trade target?

You think a trade for DeAndre Hunter is relatively realistic, without offering Tatum or Brown?
Yes. The way I see it, Tatum and Brown have no place in this conversation. They are way better players than Hunter. Tatum is younger too.

Don't think Hunter will ever become an All-Star, cause he can't consistently create his own shot. I view him as an elite 3+D type of prospect who can put the ball on the floor a little bit. That's a very useful role player for a contending team or an empty stats guy for a mediocre team. He's also kind of old for a second-year prospect. I mean, he turned 23 last December. How much better can he get? Problem is, the Hawks have zero incentive to trade him. We'd have to either overpay or send them a player they really like. It seems they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. Cam Reddish may be that player, but his game is a work in progress. Smart is one of the best guard defenders in the NBA. I bet the Hawks would love to pair him with Young. They could move Reddish at SF cause he's 6'8''.

Here's a trade idea.

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Imo, it's an overpay. Not sure whether I'd pull the trigger. This would probably be the absolute most I'd be willing to offer. I'm still relatively high on Romeo. If it weren't for his injury, I believe he would have started plenty of games this season. Alternatively, I'd be willing to include Timelord instead of Romeo.

For the record, Kris Dunn comfortably led the league in STL% last season. Imo, he's the best on-ball guard defender in the NBA. Smart is hands down a more versatile/switchable defender.

Hunter has become ATL organization's 2nd most prized asset, after Trae Young. It's not just you who has taken note of his improvement; the whole league has.  They are not going to accept any offer from us that does not have Jayson or Jaylen in it, and we are not going to make such an offer.  Proposing trades for him is a waste of time.
Agreed on the 2nd most prized asset part. This has more to do with his contract than his skills as a basketball player. Both Tatum and Brown are way better players. Being drafted at #4 means close to nothing at this point. Josh Jackson got drafted at #4 one year before, yet the Grizzlies let him walk during the offseason. All that matters is what each player brings to the table. Hunter would be a role player in our system. Again, he's already 23. How much better can he get? If the Hawks wanna sell high, this may be the time to do it. I would argue that Smart + Romeo is more than fair value for a 23-year-old role player under team control for 7-8 seasons (Hunter) and a defensive specialist (Dunn).
I don't see Atlanta having any interest whatsoever in a package like that for Hunter, who is cost-controlled for years to come and a Harrison Barnes level player as a sophomore.
What would be fair value in your book?
From us? It's tricky given the disparity in value of our top two assets and the rest. I'm not saying I'd do this trade, but I think Atlanta would.

https://tradenba.com/trades/lmVTAxoza

Boston trades: Smart, Pritchard, Williams III

Atlanta trades: Hunter, Dunn

I think it's an overpay on our behalf, but I think the only way Atlanta would be tempted to move Hunter is with such an overpay
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Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #91 on: February 04, 2021, 05:28:17 PM »

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Let's keep it relatively realistic please. No Luka/Giannis/Kawhi/Jokic/you name it.

I'll go first.

De'Andre Hunter. He's a 3+D type of swing who has shown flashes of shot creation skills. He's also a willing passer. Reminds me a lot of Mikal Bridges, only 2 inches taller and about 2 inches longer. Problem is, why would the Hawks trade him? Well, they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. The C's got an elite guard defender in Marcus Smart.

Smart + minor asset for Hunter + filler would be a valid trade salary-wise.

What would be your #1 trade target?

You think a trade for DeAndre Hunter is relatively realistic, without offering Tatum or Brown?
Yes. The way I see it, Tatum and Brown have no place in this conversation. They are way better players than Hunter. Tatum is younger too.

Don't think Hunter will ever become an All-Star, cause he can't consistently create his own shot. I view him as an elite 3+D type of prospect who can put the ball on the floor a little bit. That's a very useful role player for a contending team or an empty stats guy for a mediocre team. He's also kind of old for a second-year prospect. I mean, he turned 23 last December. How much better can he get? Problem is, the Hawks have zero incentive to trade him. We'd have to either overpay or send them a player they really like. It seems they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. Cam Reddish may be that player, but his game is a work in progress. Smart is one of the best guard defenders in the NBA. I bet the Hawks would love to pair him with Young. They could move Reddish at SF cause he's 6'8''.

Here's a trade idea.

(click on image to enlarge)



Imo, it's an overpay. Not sure whether I'd pull the trigger. This would probably be the absolute most I'd be willing to offer. I'm still relatively high on Romeo. If it weren't for his injury, I believe he would have started plenty of games this season. Alternatively, I'd be willing to include Timelord instead of Romeo.

For the record, Kris Dunn comfortably led the league in STL% last season. Imo, he's the best on-ball guard defender in the NBA. Smart is hands down a more versatile/switchable defender.

Hunter has become ATL organization's 2nd most prized asset, after Trae Young. It's not just you who has taken note of his improvement; the whole league has.  They are not going to accept any offer from us that does not have Jayson or Jaylen in it, and we are not going to make such an offer.  Proposing trades for him is a waste of time.
Agreed on the 2nd most prized asset part. This has more to do with his contract than his skills as a basketball player. Both Tatum and Brown are way better players. Being drafted at #4 means close to nothing at this point. Josh Jackson got drafted at #4 one year before, yet the Grizzlies let him walk during the offseason. All that matters is what each player brings to the table. Hunter would be a role player in our system. Again, he's already 23. How much better can he get? If the Hawks wanna sell high, this may be the time to do it. I would argue that Smart + Romeo is more than fair value for a 23-year-old role player under team control for 7-8 seasons (Hunter) and a defensive specialist (Dunn).
I don't see Atlanta having any interest whatsoever in a package like that for Hunter, who is cost-controlled for years to come and a Harrison Barnes level player as a sophomore.
What would be fair value in your book?
From us? It's tricky given the disparity in value of our top two assets and the rest. I'm not saying I'd do this trade, but I think Atlanta would.

https://tradenba.com/trades/lmVTAxoza

Boston trades: Smart, Pritchard, Williams III

Atlanta trades: Hunter, Dunn

I think it's an overpay on our behalf, but I think the only way Atlanta would be tempted to move Hunter is with such an overpay
Our valuation ain't that far apart after all. I'd do Smart + Timelord for Hunter + Dunn. You just added 1 more prospect in Pritchard.

Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #92 on: February 04, 2021, 05:29:51 PM »

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Let's keep it relatively realistic please. No Luka/Giannis/Kawhi/Jokic/you name it.

I'll go first.

De'Andre Hunter. He's a 3+D type of swing who has shown flashes of shot creation skills. He's also a willing passer. Reminds me a lot of Mikal Bridges, only 2 inches taller and about 2 inches longer. Problem is, why would the Hawks trade him? Well, they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. The C's got an elite guard defender in Marcus Smart.

Smart + minor asset for Hunter + filler would be a valid trade salary-wise.

What would be your #1 trade target?

You think a trade for DeAndre Hunter is relatively realistic, without offering Tatum or Brown?
Yes. The way I see it, Tatum and Brown have no place in this conversation. They are way better players than Hunter. Tatum is younger too.

Don't think Hunter will ever become an All-Star, cause he can't consistently create his own shot. I view him as an elite 3+D type of prospect who can put the ball on the floor a little bit. That's a very useful role player for a contending team or an empty stats guy for a mediocre team. He's also kind of old for a second-year prospect. I mean, he turned 23 last December. How much better can he get? Problem is, the Hawks have zero incentive to trade him. We'd have to either overpay or send them a player they really like. It seems they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. Cam Reddish may be that player, but his game is a work in progress. Smart is one of the best guard defenders in the NBA. I bet the Hawks would love to pair him with Young. They could move Reddish at SF cause he's 6'8''.

Here's a trade idea.

(click on image to enlarge)



Imo, it's an overpay. Not sure whether I'd pull the trigger. This would probably be the absolute most I'd be willing to offer. I'm still relatively high on Romeo. If it weren't for his injury, I believe he would have started plenty of games this season. Alternatively, I'd be willing to include Timelord instead of Romeo.

For the record, Kris Dunn comfortably led the league in STL% last season. Imo, he's the best on-ball guard defender in the NBA. Smart is hands down a more versatile/switchable defender.

Hunter has become ATL organization's 2nd most prized asset, after Trae Young. It's not just you who has taken note of his improvement; the whole league has.  They are not going to accept any offer from us that does not have Jayson or Jaylen in it, and we are not going to make such an offer.  Proposing trades for him is a waste of time.
Agreed on the 2nd most prized asset part. This has more to do with his contract than his skills as a basketball player. Both Tatum and Brown are way better players. Being drafted at #4 means close to nothing at this point. Josh Jackson got drafted at #4 one year before, yet the Grizzlies let him walk during the offseason. All that matters is what each player brings to the table. Hunter would be a role player in our system. Again, he's already 23. How much better can he get? If the Hawks wanna sell high, this may be the time to do it. I would argue that Smart + Romeo is more than fair value for a 23-year-old role player under team control for 7-8 seasons (Hunter) and a defensive specialist (Dunn).
I don't see Atlanta having any interest whatsoever in a package like that for Hunter, who is cost-controlled for years to come and a Harrison Barnes level player as a sophomore.
What would be fair value in your book?
From us? It's tricky given the disparity in value of our top two assets and the rest. I'm not saying I'd do this trade, but I think Atlanta would.

https://tradenba.com/trades/lmVTAxoza

Boston trades: Smart, Pritchard, Williams III

Atlanta trades: Hunter, Dunn

I think it's an overpay on our behalf, but I think the only way Atlanta would be tempted to move Hunter is with such an overpay
Our valuation ain't that far apart after all. I'd do Smart + Timelord for Hunter + Dunn. You just added 1 more prospect in Pritchard.
I value Timelord and Pritchard way higher than I do Langford, who I see as having next to no trade value right now. I also think they'll be much better players.

I'd definitely do Smart + Langford, and maybe Smart + TL. Not trading Pritchard in that deal at all though
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Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #93 on: February 04, 2021, 05:46:57 PM »

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Let's keep it relatively realistic please. No Luka/Giannis/Kawhi/Jokic/you name it.

I'll go first.

De'Andre Hunter. He's a 3+D type of swing who has shown flashes of shot creation skills. He's also a willing passer. Reminds me a lot of Mikal Bridges, only 2 inches taller and about 2 inches longer. Problem is, why would the Hawks trade him? Well, they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. The C's got an elite guard defender in Marcus Smart.

Smart + minor asset for Hunter + filler would be a valid trade salary-wise.

What would be your #1 trade target?

You think a trade for DeAndre Hunter is relatively realistic, without offering Tatum or Brown?
Yes. The way I see it, Tatum and Brown have no place in this conversation. They are way better players than Hunter. Tatum is younger too.

Don't think Hunter will ever become an All-Star, cause he can't consistently create his own shot. I view him as an elite 3+D type of prospect who can put the ball on the floor a little bit. That's a very useful role player for a contending team or an empty stats guy for a mediocre team. He's also kind of old for a second-year prospect. I mean, he turned 23 last December. How much better can he get? Problem is, the Hawks have zero incentive to trade him. We'd have to either overpay or send them a player they really like. It seems they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. Cam Reddish may be that player, but his game is a work in progress. Smart is one of the best guard defenders in the NBA. I bet the Hawks would love to pair him with Young. They could move Reddish at SF cause he's 6'8''.

Here's a trade idea.

(click on image to enlarge)



Imo, it's an overpay. Not sure whether I'd pull the trigger. This would probably be the absolute most I'd be willing to offer. I'm still relatively high on Romeo. If it weren't for his injury, I believe he would have started plenty of games this season. Alternatively, I'd be willing to include Timelord instead of Romeo.

For the record, Kris Dunn comfortably led the league in STL% last season. Imo, he's the best on-ball guard defender in the NBA. Smart is hands down a more versatile/switchable defender.

Hunter has become ATL organization's 2nd most prized asset, after Trae Young. It's not just you who has taken note of his improvement; the whole league has.  They are not going to accept any offer from us that does not have Jayson or Jaylen in it, and we are not going to make such an offer.  Proposing trades for him is a waste of time.
Agreed on the 2nd most prized asset part. This has more to do with his contract than his skills as a basketball player. Both Tatum and Brown are way better players. Being drafted at #4 means close to nothing at this point. Josh Jackson got drafted at #4 one year before, yet the Grizzlies let him walk during the offseason. All that matters is what each player brings to the table. Hunter would be a role player in our system. Again, he's already 23. How much better can he get? If the Hawks wanna sell high, this may be the time to do it. I would argue that Smart + Romeo is more than fair value for a 23-year-old role player under team control for 7-8 seasons (Hunter) and a defensive specialist (Dunn).
I don't see Atlanta having any interest whatsoever in a package like that for Hunter, who is cost-controlled for years to come and a Harrison Barnes level player as a sophomore.
What would be fair value in your book?
From us? It's tricky given the disparity in value of our top two assets and the rest. I'm not saying I'd do this trade, but I think Atlanta would.

https://tradenba.com/trades/lmVTAxoza

Boston trades: Smart, Pritchard, Williams III

Atlanta trades: Hunter, Dunn

I think it's an overpay on our behalf, but I think the only way Atlanta would be tempted to move Hunter is with such an overpay
Our valuation ain't that far apart after all. I'd do Smart + Timelord for Hunter + Dunn. You just added 1 more prospect in Pritchard.
I value Timelord and Pritchard way higher than I do Langford, who I see as having next to no trade value right now. I also think they'll be much better players.

I'd definitely do Smart + Langford, and maybe Smart + TL. Not trading Pritchard in that deal at all though
I'm ready to move on from Timelord. In a vacuum, he's a starting-caliber rim protector. Thing is, the C's don't run a drop scheme on defense. He ain't a good fit for us.

Not too high on Pritchard. His shooting + ball handling abilities make him an NBA-caliber player. This is what matters the most, given that we drafted him at #26. Don't see the upside though. He's already 23, plus he gets killed in switches. It isn't for lack of trying. He's 6'1''.
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Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #94 on: February 04, 2021, 08:48:15 PM »

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Plus bring in a big like McGee.

Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #95 on: February 05, 2021, 07:42:48 AM »

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Let's keep it relatively realistic please. No Luka/Giannis/Kawhi/Jokic/you name it.

I'll go first.

De'Andre Hunter. He's a 3+D type of swing who has shown flashes of shot creation skills. He's also a willing passer. Reminds me a lot of Mikal Bridges, only 2 inches taller and about 2 inches longer. Problem is, why would the Hawks trade him? Well, they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. The C's got an elite guard defender in Marcus Smart.

Smart + minor asset for Hunter + filler would be a valid trade salary-wise.

What would be your #1 trade target?

You think a trade for DeAndre Hunter is relatively realistic, without offering Tatum or Brown?
Yes. The way I see it, Tatum and Brown have no place in this conversation. They are way better players than Hunter. Tatum is younger too.

Don't think Hunter will ever become an All-Star, cause he can't consistently create his own shot. I view him as an elite 3+D type of prospect who can put the ball on the floor a little bit. That's a very useful role player for a contending team or an empty stats guy for a mediocre team. He's also kind of old for a second-year prospect. I mean, he turned 23 last December. How much better can he get? Problem is, the Hawks have zero incentive to trade him. We'd have to either overpay or send them a player they really like. It seems they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. Cam Reddish may be that player, but his game is a work in progress. Smart is one of the best guard defenders in the NBA. I bet the Hawks would love to pair him with Young. They could move Reddish at SF cause he's 6'8''.

Here's a trade idea.

(click on image to enlarge)



Imo, it's an overpay. Not sure whether I'd pull the trigger. This would probably be the absolute most I'd be willing to offer. I'm still relatively high on Romeo. If it weren't for his injury, I believe he would have started plenty of games this season. Alternatively, I'd be willing to include Timelord instead of Romeo.

For the record, Kris Dunn comfortably led the league in STL% last season. Imo, he's the best on-ball guard defender in the NBA. Smart is hands down a more versatile/switchable defender.

Hunter has become ATL organization's 2nd most prized asset, after Trae Young. It's not just you who has taken note of his improvement; the whole league has.  They are not going to accept any offer from us that does not have Jayson or Jaylen in it, and we are not going to make such an offer.  Proposing trades for him is a waste of time.
Agreed on the 2nd most prized asset part. This has more to do with his contract than his skills as a basketball player. Both Tatum and Brown are way better players. Being drafted at #4 means close to nothing. Josh Jackson got drafted at #4 two years before Hunter, yet the Grizzlies let him walk during the offseason. All that matters is what each player brings to the table. Hunter is the 3rd option in Atlanta, but he'd be a role player in our system. Again, he's already 23. How much better can he get? If the Hawks wanna sell high, this may be the time to do it. I would argue that Smart + Romeo is more than fair value for a 23-year-old, 3+D role player under team control for 7-8 seasons (Hunter) and a defensive specialist (Dunn).

Considering Hunter has improved dramatically from last year, why exactly can’t he improve more? Brown sure improved from 23 to 24 yrs old...... The guy is shooting 61% inside the arc (and a lot has come off the dribble) yet you think he’s only a 3 guy on O?

17.2 ppg on 64 TS% while playing above average defense at 23 ....absolutely no chance hawks trade him for Smart led package. Teams don’t trade up for young prospects (especially top 5) watch them break out and immediately trade them.

And so may false narratives on Collins in here like he hates playing  with Trae or wants to leave the hawks. The Trae-Collins mess was completely overblown. Hawks aren’t trading Collins unless they get a star back (which I doubt with his contract situation)....& Collins has significantly improved his defense which should have his value up. (top 15 in DRPM and raptor)
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Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #96 on: February 05, 2021, 07:44:06 AM »

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Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #97 on: February 05, 2021, 08:49:02 AM »

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Let's keep it relatively realistic please. No Luka/Giannis/Kawhi/Jokic/you name it.

I'll go first.

De'Andre Hunter. He's a 3+D type of swing who has shown flashes of shot creation skills. He's also a willing passer. Reminds me a lot of Mikal Bridges, only 2 inches taller and about 2 inches longer. Problem is, why would the Hawks trade him? Well, they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. The C's got an elite guard defender in Marcus Smart.

Smart + minor asset for Hunter + filler would be a valid trade salary-wise.

What would be your #1 trade target?

You think a trade for DeAndre Hunter is relatively realistic, without offering Tatum or Brown?
Yes. The way I see it, Tatum and Brown have no place in this conversation. They are way better players than Hunter. Tatum is younger too.

Don't think Hunter will ever become an All-Star, cause he can't consistently create his own shot. I view him as an elite 3+D type of prospect who can put the ball on the floor a little bit. That's a very useful role player for a contending team or an empty stats guy for a mediocre team. He's also kind of old for a second-year prospect. I mean, he turned 23 last December. How much better can he get? Problem is, the Hawks have zero incentive to trade him. We'd have to either overpay or send them a player they really like. It seems they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. Cam Reddish may be that player, but his game is a work in progress. Smart is one of the best guard defenders in the NBA. I bet the Hawks would love to pair him with Young. They could move Reddish at SF cause he's 6'8''.

Here's a trade idea.

(click on image to enlarge)



Imo, it's an overpay. Not sure whether I'd pull the trigger. This would probably be the absolute most I'd be willing to offer. I'm still relatively high on Romeo. If it weren't for his injury, I believe he would have started plenty of games this season. Alternatively, I'd be willing to include Timelord instead of Romeo.

For the record, Kris Dunn comfortably led the league in STL% last season. Imo, he's the best on-ball guard defender in the NBA. Smart is hands down a more versatile/switchable defender.

Hunter has become ATL organization's 2nd most prized asset, after Trae Young. It's not just you who has taken note of his improvement; the whole league has.  They are not going to accept any offer from us that does not have Jayson or Jaylen in it, and we are not going to make such an offer.  Proposing trades for him is a waste of time.
Agreed on the 2nd most prized asset part. This has more to do with his contract than his skills as a basketball player. Both Tatum and Brown are way better players. Being drafted at #4 means close to nothing at this point. Josh Jackson got drafted at #4 one year before, yet the Grizzlies let him walk during the offseason. All that matters is what each player brings to the table. Hunter would be a role player in our system. Again, he's already 23. How much better can he get? If the Hawks wanna sell high, this may be the time to do it. I would argue that Smart + Romeo is more than fair value for a 23-year-old role player under team control for 7-8 seasons (Hunter) and a defensive specialist (Dunn).
I don't see Atlanta having any interest whatsoever in a package like that for Hunter, who is cost-controlled for years to come and a Harrison Barnes level player as a sophomore.
What would be fair value in your book?
From us? It's tricky given the disparity in value of our top two assets and the rest. I'm not saying I'd do this trade, but I think Atlanta would.

https://tradenba.com/trades/lmVTAxoza

Boston trades: Smart, Pritchard, Williams III

Atlanta trades: Hunter, Dunn

I think it's an overpay on our behalf, but I think the only way Atlanta would be tempted to move Hunter is with such an overpay
Our valuation ain't that far apart after all. I'd do Smart + Timelord for Hunter + Dunn. You just added 1 more prospect in Pritchard.
I value Timelord and Pritchard way higher than I do Langford, who I see as having next to no trade value right now. I also think they'll be much better players.

I'd definitely do Smart + Langford, and maybe Smart + TL. Not trading Pritchard in that deal at all though
I'm ready to move on from Timelord. In a vacuum, he's a starting-caliber rim protector. Thing is, the C's don't run a drop scheme on defense. He ain't a good fit for us.

Not too high on Pritchard. His shooting + ball handling abilities make him an NBA-caliber player. This is what matters the most, given that we drafted him at #26. Don't see the upside though. He's already 23, plus he gets killed in switches. It isn't for lack of trying. He's 6'1''.
Almost every title contender in the league save Milwaukee have starting guards who can be exploited in switches lol.
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Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #98 on: February 07, 2021, 12:42:54 AM »

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The list of teams that will begin to tank and may give vet on solid contract just for a future end 1rst draft pick, is probably shortest than what we think because of the playin and that few teams will tank and discount their vets.

Team that will very probably tank : Wizards, Pistons and Wolves. The solid vets that they can propose are not that much interesting : Bertans is the one who fit the most but still big limiations (salary, last yer contract year, defense, Po performance), Rose as good role players and some end bench guys like Hernangomez .... But may just be min buyout signing. I didn't mention their star players like Beal, Griffin or Grant but they will be too expensive (Grant would be a perfect fit but it is impossible I guess) or uninteresting and too expensive (Griffin).

Some teams may still seak trades for their future but won't discont the team and won't want to loose it all : Memphis, OKC, NO, Chicago, Cleveland,Houston, SA, Orlando and NY. So it gives Gordon, Vuch, Fournier, Valanciunas, Ball, Redick, Horford, Porter, Markannen, Drummond, Love, Oladipo, Derozan, Aldridge, Mills, Randle -maybe-, Ntilikina (and I forget some). Some interesting names, but this teams arn't going to give them just to dumb salary, they can compete now and will accept a little downgrade only if they get solid future assets (like good potential rookie(s) contract -we have plenty- or first round pick(s)). And some of this players eat all TPE for just 6 month rent... Not very engaging.

Unfortunately, I also think Barnes would be the perfect goal, but he is playing too good and Sacto also. They will go all in for the playin. It is a fake realistic objectiv. Many teams may fight for few players in fact (few cut and few discount). We have the TPE advantage, but still few assets... Since I know we can wait the end of the year to sign a FA for multiple year, I ask me if it isn't a better to wait and sign into a long term contract one or two guys like Oladipo, DeRozan, Drummond, Powell, Ibaka or Harell, by exemple. I really don't know because I am on the camp who think we don't miss so much to compete now.
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Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #99 on: February 07, 2021, 06:12:10 AM »

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Let's keep it relatively realistic please. No Luka/Giannis/Kawhi/Jokic/you name it.

I'll go first.

De'Andre Hunter. He's a 3+D type of swing who has shown flashes of shot creation skills. He's also a willing passer. Reminds me a lot of Mikal Bridges, only 2 inches taller and about 2 inches longer. Problem is, why would the Hawks trade him? Well, they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. The C's got an elite guard defender in Marcus Smart.

Smart + minor asset for Hunter + filler would be a valid trade salary-wise.

What would be your #1 trade target?

You think a trade for DeAndre Hunter is relatively realistic, without offering Tatum or Brown?
Yes. The way I see it, Tatum and Brown have no place in this conversation. They are way better players than Hunter. Tatum is younger too.

Don't think Hunter will ever become an All-Star, cause he can't consistently create his own shot. I view him as an elite 3+D type of prospect who can put the ball on the floor a little bit. That's a very useful role player for a contending team or an empty stats guy for a mediocre team. He's also kind of old for a second-year prospect. I mean, he turned 23 last December. How much better can he get? Problem is, the Hawks have zero incentive to trade him. We'd have to either overpay or send them a player they really like. It seems they need an elite perimeter defender to put next to Trae Young. Cam Reddish may be that player, but his game is a work in progress. Smart is one of the best guard defenders in the NBA. I bet the Hawks would love to pair him with Young. They could move Reddish at SF cause he's 6'8''.

Here's a trade idea.

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Imo, it's an overpay. Not sure whether I'd pull the trigger. This would probably be the absolute most I'd be willing to offer. I'm still relatively high on Romeo. If it weren't for his injury, I believe he would have started plenty of games this season. Alternatively, I'd be willing to include Timelord instead of Romeo.

For the record, Kris Dunn comfortably led the league in STL% last season. Imo, he's the best on-ball guard defender in the NBA. Smart is hands down a more versatile/switchable defender.

Hunter has become ATL organization's 2nd most prized asset, after Trae Young. It's not just you who has taken note of his improvement; the whole league has.  They are not going to accept any offer from us that does not have Jayson or Jaylen in it, and we are not going to make such an offer.  Proposing trades for him is a waste of time.
Agreed on the 2nd most prized asset part. This has more to do with his contract than his skills as a basketball player. Both Tatum and Brown are way better players. Being drafted at #4 means close to nothing at this point. Josh Jackson got drafted at #4 one year before, yet the Grizzlies let him walk during the offseason. All that matters is what each player brings to the table. Hunter would be a role player in our system. Again, he's already 23. How much better can he get? If the Hawks wanna sell high, this may be the time to do it. I would argue that Smart + Romeo is more than fair value for a 23-year-old role player under team control for 7-8 seasons (Hunter) and a defensive specialist (Dunn).
I don't see Atlanta having any interest whatsoever in a package like that for Hunter, who is cost-controlled for years to come and a Harrison Barnes level player as a sophomore.
What would be fair value in your book?
From us? It's tricky given the disparity in value of our top two assets and the rest. I'm not saying I'd do this trade, but I think Atlanta would.

https://tradenba.com/trades/lmVTAxoza

Boston trades: Smart, Pritchard, Williams III

Atlanta trades: Hunter, Dunn

I think it's an overpay on our behalf, but I think the only way Atlanta would be tempted to move Hunter is with such an overpay
Our valuation ain't that far apart after all. I'd do Smart + Timelord for Hunter + Dunn. You just added 1 more prospect in Pritchard.
I value Timelord and Pritchard way higher than I do Langford, who I see as having next to no trade value right now. I also think they'll be much better players.

I'd definitely do Smart + Langford, and maybe Smart + TL. Not trading Pritchard in that deal at all though
I'm ready to move on from Timelord. In a vacuum, he's a starting-caliber rim protector. Thing is, the C's don't run a drop scheme on defense. He ain't a good fit for us.

Not too high on Pritchard. His shooting + ball handling abilities make him an NBA-caliber player. This is what matters the most, given that we drafted him at #26. Don't see the upside though. He's already 23, plus he gets killed in switches. It isn't for lack of trying. He's 6'1''.
Almost every title contender in the league save Milwaukee have starting guards who can be exploited in switches lol.
Each team runs a different defensive scheme. For instance, since you mentioned the Bucks, they run a drop/overhelp scheme. BroLo drops back and protects the rim. Giannis is the best help defender in the NBA. He operates as a free safety on defense.

The C's are built around 2 switchable wings in Tatum and Brown. We want to maximize their effectiveness on both sides of the ball, hence we run a switch-heavy defensive scheme. It seems like CBS can hide 1 non-switchable defender (Kemba). We cannot hide 2 non-switchable defenders and still run a switch-heavy defensive scheme. Again, imo this is the reason Theis/Thompson start over Timelord.

As long as we got Kemba, imo Pritchard can never become a regular starter (unless we bench Kemba).

The way I see it, Pritchard is a terrific shooter + ball handler. He's an OK passer (nothing special). He ain't tall/explosive enough to consistently create his own shot. He's already 23 years old. Don't see the upside. I view him as an expendable asset. He might become a starter down the road when we part ways with Kemba. That said, imo our PG of the future should be Smart. Alternatively, I'd love us to go after an oversized pass-first switchable PG in the mold of Haliburton.


Plenty of teams (if not all of them) are losing money this season due to covid. It's totally possible that some of them will want to dump salary at the trade deadline in order to mitigate their financial losses.

Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #100 on: February 07, 2021, 06:53:40 AM »

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I made my top 10 of players I'd be interested in, ranked by the value of assets I'd be willing to give up for that player. Hard to judge which teams could be selling for the right offer. I know Towns and Curry are pipedreams, but those are the stars for which I'd be willing to break the bank open and on some level tax concerns/unhappiness could be in play.

Karl-Anthony Towns
Stephen Curry

John Collins
OG Anunoby
Mikal Bridges
Christian Wood

Harrison Barnes
Julius Randle
Victor Oladipo
Otto Porter Jr.

Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #101 on: February 07, 2021, 08:43:00 AM »

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Thaddeus Young or Harrison Barnes May be easy to get..John Collins be hard.. they are my realistic 3 favorites
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #102 on: February 07, 2021, 09:51:07 AM »

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O.G. Anunoby.

Young, on a contract three years, perfect complementary wing for the Js. Toronto probably isn’t making this deal but they might. They aren’t going anywhere with the Lowry-FVV-Siakam core. One of our young players of their choosing and a couple of firsts might work.

Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #103 on: February 07, 2021, 10:23:27 AM »

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O.G. Anunoby.

Young, on a contract three years, perfect complementary wing for the Js. Toronto probably isn’t making this deal but they might. They aren’t going anywhere with the Lowry-FVV-Siakam core. One of our young players of their choosing and a couple of firsts might work.
4 first rounders and 4 swaps and Ujiri might listen

Re: Gimme your #1 trade target
« Reply #104 on: February 07, 2021, 11:31:35 AM »

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Thaddeus Young or Harrison Barnes May be easy to get..John Collins be hard.. they are my realistic 3 favorites
Thad may be the easiest of the three with Sac looking respectable this year and Barnes being a key to that.