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Did We Really Fleece the Nets?...
« on: January 14, 2021, 12:07:50 AM »

Offline GreenlyGreeny

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...Because theyíve got Durant, Irving and Harden. And our rebuild has been done for years. And weíve got Tatum and Brown. Nice pieces, but weíre not beating that Big 3 anytime soon...

Sadly, at this point our best bet is for the season to be cancelled. Otherwise, itís the Lakers or Nets winning the next title. 🤢

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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2021, 12:12:16 AM »

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Yes we did.  Nets getting a couple stars via free agency many years later doesn't change that fact. 

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Kinda separate issues at this point.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2021, 12:13:19 AM »

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Yes we did.  Nets getting a couple stars via free agency many years later doesn't change that fact.

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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2021, 12:20:51 AM »

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1) These aren't mutually exclusive - both fleecing the Nets in 2013 and them having three stars right now can and did happen.

2) Acting like Tatum and Brown - probably the best young duo in the league today - are chump change is a bad take.

3) It's far from a given that their "Big 3" is going to be a substantial force and outshine us, as they have many holes and MANY personality/characteristic issues to face. While I was skeptical of KD fitting in GS, that was a substantially better fit just given the playing styles and overall characters of those guys. This is something completely different with three of the most iso-heavy guys in the league (and historically for both Harden and Kyrie) trying to play together. And that is not even considering the substantial personality challenges - e.g. Kyrie's sabbatical and Harden's recent antics when he wasn't getting his way - or major defensive and depth issues they have.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2021, 12:23:43 AM »

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1) These aren't mutually exclusive - both fleecing the Nets in 2013 and them having three stars right now can and did happen.

2) Acting like Tatum and Brown - probably the best young duo in the league today - are chump change is a bad take.

3) It's far from a given that their "Big 3" is going to be a substantial force and outshine us, as they have many holes and MANY personality/characteristic issues to face. While I was skeptical of KD fitting in GS, that was a substantially better fit just given the playing styles and overall characters of those guys. This is something completely different with three of the most iso-heavy guys in the league (and historically for both Harden and Kyrie) trying to play together. And that is not even considering the substantial personality challenges - e.g. Kyrie's sabbatical and Harden's recent antics when he wasn't getting his way - or major defensive and depth issues they have.

Iíll always say I can be wrong. I may be wrong here. But Iím emotional right now seeing the worst-case scenario with regards to Harden. I did not want him in the East unless it was on our team, and I definitely did not want him teaming up with Irving.

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2021, 12:51:24 AM »

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...Because theyíve got Durant, Irving and Harden.

8 years later.

The C's have been better over the last 4-5 years because of that trade.

The C's would have likely been worse if they held on to Pierce and Garrett being stuck in mediocrity (unless rebuilding later somehow would have landed them Luka and other studs).

The Nets have been worse the last 6 years because of that trade.

Yes the C's won.


Hey maybe the C's really lost the Robert Parish trade with Golden State since they were winning championships the last few years and the C's weren't.



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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2021, 01:05:36 AM »

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Obviously yes.  Iím sure the Nets would have still signed Durant and Kyrie if Tatum and JB were on the roster. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2021, 01:15:56 AM »

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So Tatum and Brown are putting up superstar numbers but they're "nice pieces?" I'd say wait until things settle down before making rash judgements.

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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2021, 01:43:26 AM »

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Cs did fleece the Nets but it wasnít has bad as people think. Ainge took back that nasty Wallace contract and gave back a lottery pick for Kyrie.

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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2021, 01:45:06 AM »

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Man, if this is the level of quality that posts will be around here for the time being, I might have to take a break from this site.
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2021, 02:00:30 AM »

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...Because theyíve got Durant, Irving and Harden.

8 years later.

The C's have been better over the last 4-5 years because of that trade.

The C's would have likely been worse if they held on to Pierce and Garrett being stuck in mediocrity (unless rebuilding later somehow would have landed them Luka and other studs).

The Nets have been worse the last 6 years because of that trade.

Yes the C's won.


Hey maybe the C's really lost the Robert Parish trade with Golden State since they were winning championships the last few years and the C's weren't.

Yeah, I always thought that Parish trade, oh and didnít we get McHale in that trade too, would come back and haunt us!  :)

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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2021, 02:25:56 AM »

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Cís had a heist. The Nets gambled on PP/KG and lost. The results speak for themselves. What wouldíve made the trade even is if 1) the picks turned out to be busts or 2) the Nets won a ring.

Now, the Nets have gambled again. And unless the Nets win a ring, the Rockets also have themselves quite a boon. 4 picks AND 4 swaps? Thatís a pretty great haul
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2021, 02:57:03 AM »

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Cís had a heist. The Nets gambled on PP/KG and lost. The results speak for themselves. What wouldíve made the trade even is if 1) the picks turned out to be busts or 2) the Nets won a ring.

Now, the Nets have gambled again. And unless the Nets win a ring, the Rockets also have themselves quite a boon. 4 picks AND 4 swaps? Thatís a pretty great haul

Biggest haul in history maybe?
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2021, 03:43:53 AM »

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Cís had a heist. The Nets gambled on PP/KG and lost. The results speak for themselves. What wouldíve made the trade even is if 1) the picks turned out to be busts or 2) the Nets won a ring.

Now, the Nets have gambled again. And unless the Nets win a ring, the Rockets also have themselves quite a boon. 4 picks AND 4 swaps? Thatís a pretty great haul

Biggest haul in history maybe?

Billy King must have snuck into the GM's office and made the call.