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Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #540 on: January 02, 2021, 02:31:26 AM »

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Did not see game - How is it possible that the Celtics did not score the last 4+ minutes ? How does that happen ?

Tatum, Brown, and Smart don't know who the alpha is yet.  Tatum should be, but Brown and Smart have really stepped up.  In a way, no egos and cameraderie is amazing, but eventually they'll have to figure this out. They also looked tired after 3 games in 4 nights.

There is no world in which Marcus Smart, with all his limitations, is an Alpha. The problem lies in the fact he thinks he is.

Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #541 on: January 02, 2021, 02:38:16 AM »

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Wow this is an uggly one. Maybe we will still have our hard losses against the weakest team like last year (we already lost at Detroit once or twice I guess). Didn't watch the game but I hope a reaction from the players on Sunday. We had a bad night in 3PT %and lost the TO fight where we crashed Memphis and beat usually our opponents.
Whatever we are still in the ranking with Nets and Bucks but we could take some advantage from this beging of season, but we don't. At least Miami and Toronto begin even worst.
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Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #542 on: January 02, 2021, 02:56:55 AM »

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Did not see game - How is it possible that the Celtics did not score the last 4+ minutes ? How does that happen ?

Tatum, Brown, and Smart don't know who the alpha is yet.  Tatum should be, but Brown and Smart have really stepped up.  In a way, no egos and cameraderie is amazing, but eventually they'll have to figure this out. They also looked tired after 3 games in 4 nights.

There is no world in which Marcus Smart, with all his limitations, is an Alpha. The problem lies in the fact he thinks he is.

What’s funny is that people on this board didn’t want Tatum to shoot the last shot and they got their wish. They got a bunch of other guys trying to hit a shot. Well, GWill, JB, and Smart (twice) all missed down the stretch. Granted, Tatum too missed an open corner 3 off a great timeout play by CBS. But it’s weird that now we’re questioning Tatum’s “alpha” as if he hadn’t been taking the last shots the past few games and we were crucifying him for it.

It seems pretty clear (to me, at least) that Tatum is the #1 on this team and JB is clearly our #2. It’s like Lillard-McCollum. Marcus Smart though... idk. There are some nights he plays his role well and other nights he thinks he’s a scorer.
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Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #543 on: January 02, 2021, 03:11:40 AM »

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Did not see game - How is it possible that the Celtics did not score the last 4+ minutes ? How does that happen ?

Tatum, Brown, and Smart don't know who the alpha is yet.  Tatum should be, but Brown and Smart have really stepped up.  In a way, no egos and cameraderie is amazing, but eventually they'll have to figure this out. They also looked tired after 3 games in 4 nights.

There is no world in which Marcus Smart, with all his limitations, is an Alpha. The problem lies in the fact he thinks he is.

He is NO alpha. He's not even our consistent scorer and every time I watch him take a 3 I cringe.


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Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #544 on: January 02, 2021, 03:50:40 AM »

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Did not see game - How is it possible that the Celtics did not score the last 4+ minutes ? How does that happen ?

Tatum, Brown, and Smart don't know who the alpha is yet.  Tatum should be, but Brown and Smart have really stepped up.  In a way, no egos and cameraderie is amazing, but eventually they'll have to figure this out. They also looked tired after 3 games in 4 nights.

There is no world in which Marcus Smart, with all his limitations, is an Alpha. The problem lies in the fact he thinks he is.

He is NO alpha. He's not even our consistent scorer and every time I watch him take a 3 I cringe.

there is no discipline on this team, there is no heirachy on this team, it is going to be a problem if roles are not defined very soon. For instance, should Brown curb his development because Tatum has been annointed and so he {Brown} cannot be seen as showing up Tatum? Is Tatum the Alpha or are the fans just assuming he is? If he is the Alpha does he need to be more vocal? Can he lead this team? Does he have the personality of an Alpha? This team is in desperate need of leadership. Coach and the two young 'stars' of the team are quiet. Perhaps one of the Jays will grow into becoming a leader but in the meantime the vacuum must be filled - Kemba?

Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #545 on: January 02, 2021, 04:31:42 AM »

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Did not see game - How is it possible that the Celtics did not score the last 4+ minutes ? How does that happen ?

Tatum, Brown, and Smart don't know who the alpha is yet.  Tatum should be, but Brown and Smart have really stepped up.  In a way, no egos and cameraderie is amazing, but eventually they'll have to figure this out. They also looked tired after 3 games in 4 nights.

There is no world in which Marcus Smart, with all his limitations, is an Alpha. The problem lies in the fact he thinks he is.

What’s funny is that people on this board didn’t want Tatum to shoot the last shot and they got their wish. They got a bunch of other guys trying to hit a shot. Well, GWill, JB, and Smart (twice) all missed down the stretch. Granted, Tatum too missed an open corner 3 off a great timeout play by CBS. But it’s weird that now we’re questioning Tatum’s “alpha” as if he hadn’t been taking the last shots the past few games and we were crucifying him for it.

It seems pretty clear (to me, at least) that Tatum is the #1 on this team and JB is clearly our #2. It’s like Lillard-McCollum. Marcus Smart though... idk. There are some nights he plays his role well and other nights he thinks he’s a scorer.

Tatum and Brown should be our Alpha dogs taking the last shot UNLESS there is a wide open, high percentage shot available for someone else. My issue with Jayson atm is he appears to want to be the hero dropping match winning threes where sometimes, take the easy 2 and extend the game.

Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #546 on: January 02, 2021, 05:46:17 AM »

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If Ja Morant played the last game that would have been another loss.


this is 2001 all over again when all the Cs have is a young Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker and the rest are a bunch of scrubs.

Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #547 on: January 02, 2021, 06:14:57 AM »

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If Ja Morant played the last game that would have been another loss.


this is 2001 all over again when all the Cs have is a young Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker and the rest are a bunch of  scrubs.

TROLL  :)

And now could you give us your brillant analysis on our concurent in East; Bucks (3-3), Nets (3-3), Heat (2-3) and the Raptors (1-3). For them is it just a bad start or are they the Bucks 2009 Jennings team, the Nets 2016 Brook Lopez team etc.... Your comparaison have litterally no sense, on the players you compare, the results, the potenital ...

Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #548 on: January 02, 2021, 08:05:47 AM »

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Did not see game - How is it possible that the Celtics did not score the last 4+ minutes ? How does that happen ?

Tatum, Brown, and Smart don't know who the alpha is yet.  Tatum should be, but Brown and Smart have really stepped up.  In a way, no egos and cameraderie is amazing, but eventually they'll have to figure this out. They also looked tired after 3 games in 4 nights.

There is no world in which Marcus Smart, with all his limitations, is an Alpha. The problem lies in the fact he thinks he is.

What’s funny is that people on this board didn’t want Tatum to shoot the last shot and they got their wish. They got a bunch of other guys trying to hit a shot. Well, GWill, JB, and Smart (twice) all missed down the stretch. Granted, Tatum too missed an open corner 3 off a great timeout play by CBS. But it’s weird that now we’re questioning Tatum’s “alpha” as if he hadn’t been taking the last shots the past few games and we were crucifying him for it.

It seems pretty clear (to me, at least) that Tatum is the #1 on this team and JB is clearly our #2. It’s like Lillard-McCollum. Marcus Smart though... idk. There are some nights he plays his role well and other nights he thinks he’s a scorer.

I think everybody in the world would be satisfied if Tatum took the shot Brown took (and he had an even better one the previous possession); we just hate when he isos out the clock and chucks a 30+ footer in games where we are down by one or tied. Brad drew up two excellent ATO plays down the stretch and Tatum/Brown each missed open shots. It sucks, but at least Brad has shown a willingness to go in a different direction than the awful Tatum iso.

Frankly, if anybody should be iso-ing down by less than 3, it's definitely Brown. He is way better at getting to his spots and he seemingly values possessions better than Tatum.

Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #549 on: January 02, 2021, 08:09:57 AM »

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If Ja Morant played the last game that would have been another loss.

this is 2001 all over again when all the Cs have is a young Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker and the rest are a bunch of scrubs.

We aren't quite there yet. We need to get Kenny Anderson (Kemba) back and then use the TPE/Nesmith to trade for Rodney Rogers.

Maybe after the season - if it doesn't work out - we can trade Kemba and TT for Vin Baker  ;D

Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #550 on: January 02, 2021, 09:02:07 AM »

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I NEVER wanna see Carsen Edwards play again...Dude is utterly useless.

He missed 2 shots that I think I would have made.  Plenty of space - little 10 footers, both clanging front rim.  The first one was irritating, the second was maddening.

Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #551 on: January 02, 2021, 09:04:22 AM »

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Did not see game - How is it possible that the Celtics did not score the last 4+ minutes ? How does that happen ?

Another factor down the stretch was poor rebounding on both ends.  Detroit had multiple chances while C’s were one/done every time. 

Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #552 on: January 02, 2021, 10:23:11 AM »

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Did not see game - How is it possible that the Celtics did not score the last 4+ minutes ? How does that happen ?

Tatum, Brown, and Smart don't know who the alpha is yet.  Tatum should be, but Brown and Smart have really stepped up.  In a way, no egos and cameraderie is amazing, but eventually they'll have to figure this out. They also looked tired after 3 games in 4 nights.

There is no world in which Marcus Smart, with all his limitations, is an Alpha. The problem lies in the fact he thinks he is.

What’s funny is that people on this board didn’t want Tatum to shoot the last shot and they got their wish. They got a bunch of other guys trying to hit a shot. Well, GWill, JB, and Smart (twice) all missed down the stretch. Granted, Tatum too missed an open corner 3 off a great timeout play by CBS. But it’s weird that now we’re questioning Tatum’s “alpha” as if he hadn’t been taking the last shots the past few games and we were crucifying him for it.

It seems pretty clear (to me, at least) that Tatum is the #1 on this team and JB is clearly our #2. It’s like Lillard-McCollum. Marcus Smart though... idk. There are some nights he plays his role well and other nights he thinks he’s a scorer.
And I'm very happy with what we got last night - those shots were quality looks. I'm also very happy with Tatum deferring a bit more when the shot isn't there.

Imo Tatum being the #1 is more by design rather than him clearly being our best player, I think Brown has really ramped up this season. As for Smart, he's clearly reining in his shot selection and has been a really good three point shooter so far (44.1% from 3 on 5.7 attempts per game!) to go alongside his very good passing.
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Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #553 on: January 02, 2021, 01:09:20 PM »

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Did not see game - How is it possible that the Celtics did not score the last 4+ minutes ? How does that happen ?

Tatum, Brown, and Smart don't know who the alpha is yet.  Tatum should be, but Brown and Smart have really stepped up.  In a way, no egos and cameraderie is amazing, but eventually they'll have to figure this out. They also looked tired after 3 games in 4 nights.

There is no world in which Marcus Smart, with all his limitations, is an Alpha. The problem lies in the fact he thinks he is.

What’s funny is that people on this board didn’t want Tatum to shoot the last shot and they got their wish. They got a bunch of other guys trying to hit a shot. Well, GWill, JB, and Smart (twice) all missed down the stretch. Granted, Tatum too missed an open corner 3 off a great timeout play by CBS. But it’s weird that now we’re questioning Tatum’s “alpha” as if he hadn’t been taking the last shots the past few games and we were crucifying him for it.

It seems pretty clear (to me, at least) that Tatum is the #1 on this team and JB is clearly our #2. It’s like Lillard-McCollum. Marcus Smart though... idk. There are some nights he plays his role well and other nights he thinks he’s a scorer.

For this to be clear to you after the first 6 games of this season I find baffling. 
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Re: Celtics (3-2) at Pistons (0-4) Game #6 1/1/21
« Reply #554 on: January 03, 2021, 12:55:55 AM »

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Brad Stevens is not doing a good job preparing/disciplining his team?

And we need James Harden.

Those are mutually-contradictory statements - in other words, not possible at the same time.
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