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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #195 on: April 01, 2021, 07:40:07 AM »

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Health is still the problem.  Thought we might be very close last night, the RWill is out and the never ending story about Romeo continues, JB is having lingering issues, etc..  Once we're completely healthy, if we ever freaking are, I can see Brad slipping Smart back to the 6th man role and being the Vet presence on the bench rotation and the starters are RWill, JT, EF, JB, KW.  Bench now has MS, PP, RL, GWill, and one of the Bigs.
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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #196 on: April 01, 2021, 07:58:43 AM »

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Sorry to Brad.  He's a nice guy who's ideal for taking on a rebuilding team that's bottomed out and bringing them back to respectability.

But if we wanted to win a championship he's not in the discussion.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #197 on: April 01, 2021, 08:06:31 AM »

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Time to bring in a "special consultant", like Jerry West, who can review the situation apart from Ainge and everyone else to allow ownership to make a dispassionate determination of what needs to be changed.  My guesses are the following:

1. Ainge is reassigned to another position, so that he is not the sole decision maker.

2. At some point, CBS is replaced by Juwann Howard.

3.  If the team cannot trade Kemba, Kemba is made the "microwave" sixth man off the bench.  His time is limited to 20 MPG.

4. Smart is advised he is a defensive specialist only, and he is told further that he is not to take shots unless he is open.

5. With two elite wings, the pace is quickened and the team will look to fast break more.

6. The team signs a distributor to handle the ball on offense. I would propose a sign and trade, Fournier for Lonzo Ball.  Obviously there would have to be draft pick sweeteners for NO to consider this.

7.  The team needs to decide if it wants to compete now or to develop the younger bench players like Romeo, Nesmith and PP.  It goes without saying that RWIII will be the primary focus for development, and I would bring in a special coach like Olajuwon to work with him.

8.  The team needs to hire as a coach a player who has recently retired, who the stars would listen and respond to.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #198 on: April 01, 2021, 08:14:15 AM »

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Shooting tooooo many 3’s and no inside game
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #199 on: April 01, 2021, 08:23:22 AM »

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Also if u could have gotten Vucevic or Gordon but Ainge didn’t want to trade Smart, then I blame Ainge..
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #200 on: April 01, 2021, 08:27:55 AM »

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2. At some point, CBS is replaced by Juwann Howard.



Why Juwan Howard?


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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #201 on: April 01, 2021, 08:29:41 AM »

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Shooting tooooo many 3’s and no inside game

yeah
does it take advanced analyitcs to realize we shoot way too many bad 3's?
its ridiculous
ugh

a middle school coach could figure that out and demand an adjustment


Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #202 on: April 01, 2021, 08:29:53 AM »

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2. At some point, CBS is replaced by Juwann Howard.



Why Juwan Howard?
Kevin Garnett be better or someone who would light a fire under these guys behind
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #203 on: April 01, 2021, 08:32:19 AM »

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2. At some point, CBS is replaced by Juwann Howard.



Why Juwan Howard?
Kevin Garnett be better or someone who would light a fire under these guys behind

Juwan Howard has a low of pro experience, and has proven to be a successful college coach.  I think the elite Celtic players would listen to him.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #204 on: April 01, 2021, 09:38:44 AM »

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Shooting tooooo many 3’s and no inside game

Shooting 3’s isn’t the problem. The problem is Brad allowing Marcus and Kemba to take so many of them when They are both below average 3pt shooters. Smart/ Kemba were 4-16 from 3pt yesterday.
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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #205 on: April 01, 2021, 09:46:45 AM »

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2. At some point, CBS is replaced by Juwann Howard.



Why Juwan Howard?

I’ve also said Juwan Howard.  His coaching job at Michigan the last two seasons has been spectacular, in terms of player development, play design, and getting kids to buy in. He was largely credited for the development of both Bam and Hassan Whiteside before him at Miami.  Unlike most coaches coming from college, he’d be viewed as an NBA coach by NBA players, having been a player for two decades and then an assistant.  The respect would be immediate.  He has an effusive energy but also a feisty competitiveness that we’re lacking right now, and have been honestly for a few seasons.

I really hope Howard is the next coach after Stevens, whenever that is.  Howard very much wants to be an NBA coach some day, and my guess is he will pursue that job in three seasons.  Meanwhile, he loves coaching at Michigan, one of his sons is a freshman on the team, and his other is a top-50 recruit next year, who’s probably a two-and-done player.  So once his sons have graduated, I expect him to move to the NBA, and it could happen even earlier if the opportunity presents itself.

As a Michigan fan, I’ve watched every game he’s coached, and it has been revelatory.  The NBA completely missed out on not giving him a head coaching job before he went back to college.  He’d had a few interviews, and teams messed up (he interviewed for both Minnesota and Cleveland within the past 2-3 years, and they’re already on their second coaches since then).

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #206 on: April 01, 2021, 11:49:05 AM »

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Shooting 3’s isn’t the problem. The problem is Brad allowing Marcus and Kemba to take so many of them when They are both below average 3pt shooters. Smart/ Kemba were 4-16 from 3pt yesterday.

It's a big time problem.   2/3 of the team can't hit them reliably.   We also don't attack the rim to keep teams honest enough.  We shoot 37% from the three and 39% of our shots are threes.   We are not an elite team by either metric.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #207 on: April 01, 2021, 11:58:07 AM »

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Shooting 3’s isn’t the problem. The problem is Brad allowing Marcus and Kemba to take so many of them when They are both below average 3pt shooters. Smart/ Kemba were 4-16 from 3pt yesterday.

It's a big time problem.   2/3 of the team can't hit them reliably.   We also don't attack the rim to keep teams honest enough.

Seems reliable enough to me if you remove Kemba and Smart. Below are the guys that should be taking the majority of the 3pt shots.

C’s top 3pt shooters %

Kornet: 44%
Pritchard 42%
G Williams 40%
Semi 39%
J. Brown 39%
Tatum 38%
Fournier 38%


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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #208 on: April 01, 2021, 04:01:16 PM »

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2. At some point, CBS is replaced by Juwann Howard.



Why Juwan Howard?

I’ve also said Juwan Howard.  His coaching job at Michigan the last two seasons has been spectacular, in terms of player development, play design, and getting kids to buy in. He was largely credited for the development of both Bam and Hassan Whiteside before him at Miami.  Unlike most coaches coming from college, he’d be viewed as an NBA coach by NBA players, having been a player for two decades and then an assistant.  The respect would be immediate.  He has an effusive energy but also a feisty competitiveness that we’re lacking right now, and have been honestly for a few seasons.

I really hope Howard is the next coach after Stevens, whenever that is.  Howard very much wants to be an NBA coach some day, and my guess is he will pursue that job in three seasons.  Meanwhile, he loves coaching at Michigan, one of his sons is a freshman on the team, and his other is a top-50 recruit next year, who’s probably a two-and-done player.  So once his sons have graduated, I expect him to move to the NBA, and it could happen even earlier if the opportunity presents itself.

As a Michigan fan, I’ve watched every game he’s coached, and it has been revelatory.  The NBA completely missed out on not giving him a head coaching job before he went back to college.  He’d had a few interviews, and teams messed up (he interviewed for both Minnesota and Cleveland within the past 2-3 years, and they’re already on their second coaches since then).

Related to this:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31178763/michigan-juwan-howard-named-ap-college-coach-year

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #209 on: April 01, 2021, 04:13:57 PM »

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Players need to start actually Moving when they don't have the ball....they all stand around and watch whoever has the ball....Happens all the time, that's on the coaching staff.
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