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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #180 on: March 31, 2021, 11:06:40 PM »

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Has been the problem since 2017, still is a problem, and will ALWAYS be a problem.


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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #181 on: March 31, 2021, 11:14:02 PM »

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Brad needs to be on the hot seat and if he isn't that's a problem.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #182 on: March 31, 2021, 11:17:53 PM »

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He's certainly not the problem, but I think he's one of the many

I’m starting to think he’s the biggest problem. I know you are a big Smart supporter, so let me ask you this.. he’s a career 31.9% 3pt shooter and is 1st or 2nd in 3pt shot attempts each game. How can the coach allow this? If those attempts go to Pritchard C’s would win a lot more of these close games.
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #183 on: March 31, 2021, 11:21:09 PM »

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He's certainly not the problem, but I think he's one of the many

I’m starting to think he’s the biggest problem. I know you are a big Smart supporter, so let me ask you this.. he’s a career 31.9% 3pt shooter and is 1st or 2nd in 3pt shot attempts each game. How can the coach allow this? If those attempts go to Pritchard C’s would win a lot more of these close games.

Agreed!!!

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #184 on: March 31, 2021, 11:35:51 PM »

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He's certainly not the problem, but I think he's one of the many

I’m starting to think he’s the biggest problem. I know you are a big Smart supporter, so let me ask you this.. he’s a career 31.9% 3pt shooter and is 1st or 2nd in 3pt shot attempts each game. How can the coach allow this? If those attempts go to Pritchard C’s would win a lot more of these close games.
I have been calling for Smart to be traded for months?
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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #185 on: March 31, 2021, 11:50:22 PM »

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He's certainly not the problem, but I think he's one of the many

I’m starting to think he’s the biggest problem. I know you are a big Smart supporter, so let me ask you this.. he’s a career 31.9% 3pt shooter and is 1st or 2nd in 3pt shot attempts each game. How can the coach allow this? If those attempts go to Pritchard C’s would win a lot more of these close games.
I have been calling for Smart to be traded for months?

I know, was being sarcastic with that. But seriously, how do you not hold the coach accountable for allowing him to fire away? Is it not Brads job do give his players roles and to tell them what they can and cannot do on the court. Either this is the coaches game plan or Smart is tuning him out. Im not really sure which is worse. 

I remember Perk recently telling a story postgame of when he was on the C’s and shot a jumper just behind the FT Line a minute into a game. . He said that Doc immediately pulled him and told him “know your role” which was of course to rebound and play defense. Who’s holding the players accountable on this Celtics team? 
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #186 on: March 31, 2021, 11:52:01 PM »

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He's certainly not the problem, but I think he's one of the many

I’m starting to think he’s the biggest problem. I know you are a big Smart supporter, so let me ask you this.. he’s a career 31.9% 3pt shooter and is 1st or 2nd in 3pt shot attempts each game. How can the coach allow this? If those attempts go to Pritchard C’s would win a lot more of these close games.
I have been calling for Smart to be traded for months?

I know, was being sarcastic with that. But seriously, how do you not hold the coach accountable for allowing him to fire away? Is it not Brads job do give his players roles and to tell them what they can and cannot do on the court. Either this is the coaches game plan or Smart is tuning him out. Im not really sure which is worse. 

I remember Perk recently telling a story postgame of when he was on the C’s and shot a jumper just behind the FT Line a minute into the game. . He said that Doc immediately pulled him and told him “know your role” which was of course to rebound and play defense. Who’s holding the players accountable on this Celtics team?
Oh yeah, that is certainly on the coach (as well as the veteran "leader"). I just think that a lot has gone wrong. Roster construction mistakes, poor coaching and philosophies on both ends, injury and illness ravaging the team, and players have been checking out. Not sure much else could have gone wrong
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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #187 on: March 31, 2021, 11:53:57 PM »

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I think if Brad was the problem, we wouldn't have done so well last year. I think the guys on the team just don't enjoy playing with one another. Therefore don't want to play as one, and don't want to play for each other.  I also wonder if the Jays success in their young careers has made them arrogant and their teammates just don't enjoy them. I have no quantifiable or subjective evidence for that, just a thought in my mind.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #188 on: April 01, 2021, 12:04:59 AM »

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I don’t think Brad is the problem, per se.  But I do recall Larry Bird saying something to the effect of players need to hear a new voice every 4-5 years, and this year it feels like there’s some truth to that.

So the solution, according to Bird, would be to change the players or change the coach.  And I think given that’s it’s unlikely we’ll find another Tatum and Brown via trade, changing Brad is the option that is recommended.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #189 on: April 01, 2021, 12:10:16 AM »

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I don’t think Brad is the problem, per se.  But I do recall Larry Bird saying something to the effect of players need to hear a new voice every 4-5 years, and this year it feels like there’s some truth to that.

So the solution, according to Bird, would be to change the players or change the coach.  And I think given that’s it’s unlikely we’ll find another Tatum and Brown via trade, changing Brad is the option that is recommended.

What's Larry doing?

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #190 on: April 01, 2021, 12:31:51 AM »

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I don’t think Brad is the problem, per se.  But I do recall Larry Bird saying something to the effect of players need to hear a new voice every 4-5 years, and this year it feels like there’s some truth to that.

So the solution, according to Bird, would be to change the players or change the coach.  And I think given that’s it’s unlikely we’ll find another Tatum and Brown via trade, changing Brad is the option that is recommended.

I think that old Red might disagree and Gregg Popovich.
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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #191 on: April 01, 2021, 12:45:59 AM »

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I don’t think Brad is the problem, per se.  But I do recall Larry Bird saying something to the effect of players need to hear a new voice every 4-5 years, and this year it feels like there’s some truth to that.

So the solution, according to Bird, would be to change the players or change the coach.  And I think given that’s it’s unlikely we’ll find another Tatum and Brown via trade, changing Brad is the option that is recommended.

I think that old Red might disagree and Gregg Popovich.

Red had Russell and Pop had Duncan. Your whole team falls in line behind greatness.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #192 on: April 01, 2021, 01:17:23 AM »

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I don’t think Brad is the problem, per se.  But I do recall Larry Bird saying something to the effect of players need to hear a new voice every 4-5 years, and this year it feels like there’s some truth to that.

So the solution, according to Bird, would be to change the players or change the coach.  And I think given that’s it’s unlikely we’ll find another Tatum and Brown via trade, changing Brad is the option that is recommended.

What's Larry doing?
Ads with Charles Barkley, Samuel L. Jackson and a few others?

Wish he’d come coach us until 2025 or so
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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« Reply #193 on: April 01, 2021, 01:54:12 AM »

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I don’t think Brad is the problem, per se.  But I do recall Larry Bird saying something to the effect of players need to hear a new voice every 4-5 years, and this year it feels like there’s some truth to that.

So the solution, according to Bird, would be to change the players or change the coach.  And I think given that’s it’s unlikely we’ll find another Tatum and Brown via trade, changing Brad is the option that is recommended.

What's Larry doing?

Retired and part time consultant with the Pacers I think
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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #194 on: April 01, 2021, 07:09:38 AM »

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