Is Brad Stevens the problem?

[pp34isthe1]

Back to the original question, is Brad the problem?

After Marcus smart said they arnt having fun, how many times has a player said that while playing here. Off the top

Terry
Morris
Kyrie
Gordon
Smart

Each instance has its own back story but it’s a common theme.

[BackDoorCut]

Back to the original question, is Brad the problem?

After Marcus smart said they arnt having fun, how many times has a player said that while playing here. Off the top

Terry
Morris
Kyrie
Gordon
Smart

Each instance has its own back story but it’s a common theme.

Okay and we can also quote all these players discussing how great a coach Brad is. There are players who have never played for Brad who compliment him without being solicited in post game interviews as well.

[boscel33]

Read a tweet from Dave Dameshek saying that he's hearing from people in the know that Stevens is announced as the IU coach as early as today.

Don't know if I believe it, but where there is smoke.....

[Donoghus]

Read a tweet from Dave Dameshek saying that he's hearing from people in the know that Stevens is announced as the IU coach as early as today.

Don't know if I believe it, but where there is smoke.....

Check page 10 of this thread.

[cman88]

maybe Brad stevens is just a really good coach with young guys who arent established and getting them to overachieve. But hes not the best at getting star players to buy in and listen to him.

on the flip side, Doc rivers isnt a great X's and O's coach. but hes known to be able to get veteran stars to buy in and listen to him. he did it with the celtics and now with the 76ers

[footey]

Back to the original question, is Brad the problem?

After Marcus smart said they arnt having fun, how many times has a player said that while playing here. Off the top

Terry
Morris
Kyrie
Gordon
Smart

Each instance has its own back story but it’s a common theme.

Jerry West used to roll his eyes whenever he heard a player say he wasn't having fun.

Basketball is a job.  To be great at any job requires working your a** off.  Working your butt off is not fun.

Get to work.

[SHAQATTACK]

Whelp ,  something is causing the players to be disinterested,  maybe Stevens is leaving and they have totally given up.

[PhoSita]

maybe Brad stevens is just a really good coach with young guys who arent established and getting them to overachieve. But hes not the best at getting star players to buy in and listen to him.

on the flip side, Doc rivers isnt a great X's and O's coach. but hes known to be able to get veteran stars to buy in and listen to him. he did it with the celtics and now with the 76ers

how's Doc's track record in the playoffs since he left the Celts?

[IDreamCeltics]

Back to the original question, is Brad the problem?

After Marcus smart said they arnt having fun, how many times has a player said that while playing here. Off the top

Terry
Morris
Kyrie
Gordon
Smart

Each instance has its own back story but it’s a common theme.

I'm in the "Brad Stevens is in over his head" camp but the above quote sounds like more of a Marcus Smart problem.

Just look at the list of malcontents that previously made the same statement.

[Kernewek]

maybe Brad stevens is just a really good coach with young guys who arent established and getting them to overachieve. But hes not the best at getting star players to buy in and listen to him.

on the flip side, Doc rivers isnt a great X's and O's coach. but hes known to be able to get veteran stars to buy in and listen to him. he did it with the celtics and now with the 76ers

I'm not sure if this is 100% accurate but it's certainly an easy-to-see throughline of Stevens' career so far. He went from 25- and 40- win seasons with some established vets (of middling quality) to 48 and 53 wins later. Of course, the good seasons still saw guys on "the wrong side of 25", getting the lion's share of the playing time, so are they still 'young' at that point?

Put another way, if Tatum and Brown are 'star players' at 22 and 24... what was IT at 27?

[Goldstar88]

I’ve been a supporter of Brad, but enough is enough. He’s either forgotten how to coach or lost the locker room. I’ve accepted the fact that he will never know when to call a timeout and he might as well not even use the challenge system since he fails 98% of the time, but it seems like the players are just doing whatever they want out there.

Smart and Kemba cannot shoot consistently yet Brad continues to let them fire away. Fournier, the shooter they brought in gets 6 shots in 30 mins of play tonight. Pritchard is the best 3pt shooter on the team and he gets 4 shot attempts. Those two shot 5-10 from the field. How can they expect to win games when they don’t allow their best shooters to shoot?

Then we have Wagner starting when Kornet is clearly playing better on both ends of the floor...

Can Danny take over as coach at this point?

[liam]

I’ve been a supporter of Brad, but enough is enough. He’s either forgotten how to coach or lost the locker room. I’ve accepted the fact that he will never know when to call a timeout and he might as well not even use the challenge system since he fails 98% of the time, but it seems like the players are just doing whatever they want out there.

Smart and Kemba cannot shoot consistently yet Brad continues to let them fire away. Fournier, the shooter they brought in gets 6 shots in 30 mins of play tonight. Pritchard is the best 3pt shooter on the team and he gets 4 shot attempts. Those two shot 5-10 from the field. How can they expect to win games when they don’t allow their best shooters to shoot?

Then we have Wagner starting when Kornet is clearly playing better on both ends of the floor...

Can Danny take over as coach at this point?

TP 100% agree!

[LilRip]

He might be. But maybe “problem” is too strong of a word. I’m confident that as soon as we let Brad go, some other team will sign him almost immediately. He’s a really good coach.

But often times, teams need change. You see it all the time when a player blossoms after a change in scenery. In this case, I think the C’s need a change of voice in the locker room.

Of course, the counter argument here is that it’s the roster that’s terrible and DA is trying to get rid of enough players to facilitate this change. It’s like when DA traded everyone except for Pierce in the Ricky Davis/Szczerbiak era, and kept Doc onboard throughout the whole thing.

[liam]

Back to the original question, is Brad the problem?

After Marcus smart said they arnt having fun, how many times has a player said that while playing here. Off the top

Terry
Morris
Kyrie
Gordon
Smart

Each instance has its own back story but it’s a common theme.

Jerry West used to roll his eyes whenever he heard a player say he wasn't having fun.

Basketball is a job.  To be great at any job requires working your a** off.  Working your butt off is not fun.

Get to work.

Winning is fun and losing sucks so if you want to have fun win the darn game!!!!

[gouki88]

He's certainly not the problem, but I think he's one of the many