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Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2020, 10:23:00 PM »

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Teague is no longer an NBA quality player (worst player on bad Hawks team).  Waters is a lot better than him at this point

So, he can't help in games, but he can help in practice.  similar to Cassell in 2008.
Straight up awful take. He was much better than Fernando, Crabbe, Reddish, Carter, Hunter and Dedmon, so you're just straight lying. He was also averaging a cruisy 13/6/3 shooting it 45/38/87 in Minny as the back-up before being traded
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Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2020, 10:46:28 PM »

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He was solid in MN, yet atrocious in ATL (that's why they focused on finding a back up PG, but didn't even consider Teague)

That said ...
- i hope you are right and I am wrong
- Cassel wasn't helpful on the court in 2008, but was great at practice and as a locker room presence

Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2020, 11:50:21 PM »

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He was solid in MN, yet atrocious in ATL (that's why they focused on finding a back up PG, but didn't even consider Teague)

That said ...
- i hope you are right and I am wrong
- Cassel wasn't helpful on the court in 2008, but was great at practice and as a locker room presence

More like Cassell, less like Jason Terry would be fine.
Yup

Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2020, 12:38:11 AM »

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Teague is no longer an NBA quality player (worst player on bad Hawks team).  Waters is a lot better than him at this point

So, he can't help in games, but he can help in practice.  similar to Cassell in 2008.

Is it just me, or do some people dramatically overstate Waters' ability?

The guy is a young end of bench guy.  He's pretty much what Phil Pressey was for us a few years back. He's the guy who can be fun to watch and the crowd likes him and he does some good things, but ultimately he's the backup for your backup's backup. Wanamaker was infinitely better then Waters last year, and Wanamaker is hardly a stud. 

Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2020, 07:51:27 AM »

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Teague is no longer an NBA quality player (worst player on bad Hawks team).  Waters is a lot better than him at this point

So, he can't help in games, but he can help in practice.  similar to Cassell in 2008.

Is it just me, or do some people dramatically overstate Waters' ability?

The guy is a young end of bench guy.  He's pretty much what Phil Pressey was for us a few years back. He's the guy who can be fun to watch and the crowd likes him and he does some good things, but ultimately he's the backup for your backup's backup. Wanamaker was infinitely better then Waters last year, and Wanamaker is hardly a stud.
Gleague ROY, All Gleague 2ND team, and flashed when called up so even though I hate the small pgs I respect that he has played well. He should indeed be third depth chart worthy given how most of the guys who have won that kind of praise year one have made it on NBA rosters. But given his size feel his NBA impact will be too small.

Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2020, 07:57:44 AM »

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maybe a added vet locker room stabilization presence  ?  I recall him as a rookie , he used up AB as a  in acouple games i saw.

Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2020, 08:02:07 AM »

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Teague is no longer an NBA quality player (worst player on bad Hawks team).  Waters is a lot better than him at this point

So, he can't help in games, but he can help in practice.  similar to Cassell in 2008.

Is it just me, or do some people dramatically overstate Waters' ability?

The guy is a young end of bench guy.  He's pretty much what Phil Pressey was for us a few years back. He's the guy who can be fun to watch and the crowd likes him and he does some good things, but ultimately he's the backup for your backup's backup. Wanamaker was infinitely better then Waters last year, and Wanamaker is hardly a stud.
Gleague ROY, All Gleague 2ND team, and flashed when called up so even though I hate the small pgs I respect that he has played well. He should indeed be third depth chart worthy given how most of the guys who have won that kind of praise year one have made it on NBA rosters. But given his size feel his NBA impact will be too small.

Pritchard is superior to Waters. And he is the 3rd guy.

Teague is the second guy for now until pritchard proves otherwise.
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Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2020, 08:10:03 AM »

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Why didn't he fit into Atlanta second go around?

When I watch Teague nothing really stands out with him. I want to say he's crafty but I think that's being slightly generous.

Come on CS hype me up on this guy what am I missing?

ok fine

Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2020, 08:17:36 AM »

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Why didn't he fit into Atlanta second go around?

When I watch Teague nothing really stands out with him. I want to say he's crafty but I think that's being slightly generous.

Come on CS hype me up on this guy what am I missing?
Atlanta was a tanking team that was centred entirely around their star point guard. Hard to make it as a veteran backup in that scenario.

He’s a good, above average passer. Showed that in Indiana and Minnesota. He’s also a 37% shooter from 3, an elite free throw shooter and can penetrate inside pretty easily. He’ll be a great 20MPG player here.
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Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2020, 08:40:15 AM »

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Teague is no longer an NBA quality player (worst player on bad Hawks team).  Waters is a lot better than him at this point

So, he can't help in games, but he can help in practice.  similar to Cassell in 2008.

Is it just me, or do some people dramatically overstate Waters' ability?

The guy is a young end of bench guy.  He's pretty much what Phil Pressey was for us a few years back. He's the guy who can be fun to watch and the crowd likes him and he does some good things, but ultimately he's the backup for your backup's backup. Wanamaker was infinitely better then Waters last year, and Wanamaker is hardly a stud.
Gleague ROY, All Gleague 2ND team, and flashed when called up so even though I hate the small pgs I respect that he has played well. He should indeed be third depth chart worthy given how most of the guys who have won that kind of praise year one have made it on NBA rosters. But given his size feel his NBA impact will be too small.

Pritchard is superior to Waters. And he is the 3rd guy.

Teague is the second guy for now until pritchard proves otherwise.
I was just answering question on what people see in Waters.

I too see the PG depth chart that way but as I just wrote on the Hayward S&T, Langford is out a while so you might want Pritchard to play some 2 and bring up Waters. Once Langford is healthy send Waters back down. So as a two way player Waters has a role.

Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2020, 08:56:41 AM »

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Teague is no longer an NBA quality player (worst player on bad Hawks team).  Waters is a lot better than him at this point

So, he can't help in games, but he can help in practice.  similar to Cassell in 2008.

Is it just me, or do some people dramatically overstate Waters' ability?

The guy is a young end of bench guy.  He's pretty much what Phil Pressey was for us a few years back. He's the guy who can be fun to watch and the crowd likes him and he does some good things, but ultimately he's the backup for your backup's backup. Wanamaker was infinitely better then Waters last year, and Wanamaker is hardly a stud.
Gleague ROY, All Gleague 2ND team, and flashed when called up so even though I hate the small pgs I respect that he has played well. He should indeed be third depth chart worthy given how most of the guys who have won that kind of praise year one have made it on NBA rosters. But given his size feel his NBA impact will be too small.

Pritchard is superior to Waters. And he is the 3rd guy.

Teague is the second guy for now until pritchard proves otherwise.
I was just answering question on what people see in Waters.

I too see the PG depth chart that way but as I just wrote on the Hayward S&T, Langford is out a while so you might want Pritchard to play some 2 and bring up Waters. Once Langford is healthy send Waters back down. So as a two way player Waters has a role.

as of right now that is an option, but I dont think the team is done yet.

I think Nesmith is the bench SG and we will be getting a vet bench sf.

So bench mob of Teague/Nesmith/Trade or Vet/GrantW/Theis
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Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2020, 09:13:56 AM »

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Teague is no longer an NBA quality player (worst player on bad Hawks team).  Waters is a lot better than him at this point

So, he can't help in games, but he can help in practice.  similar to Cassell in 2008.

Is it just me, or do some people dramatically overstate Waters' ability?

The guy is a young end of bench guy.  He's pretty much what Phil Pressey was for us a few years back. He's the guy who can be fun to watch and the crowd likes him and he does some good things, but ultimately he's the backup for your backup's backup. Wanamaker was infinitely better then Waters last year, and Wanamaker is hardly a stud.
Gleague ROY, All Gleague 2ND team, and flashed when called up so even though I hate the small pgs I respect that he has played well. He should indeed be third depth chart worthy given how most of the guys who have won that kind of praise year one have made it on NBA rosters. But given his size feel his NBA impact will be too small.

Pritchard is superior to Waters. And he is the 3rd guy.

Teague is the second guy for now until pritchard proves otherwise.
I was just answering question on what people see in Waters.

I too see the PG depth chart that way but as I just wrote on the Hayward S&T, Langford is out a while so you might want Pritchard to play some 2 and bring up Waters. Once Langford is healthy send Waters back down. So as a two way player Waters has a role.

as of right now that is an option, but I dont think the team is done yet.

I think Nesmith is the bench SG and we will be getting a vet bench sf.

So bench mob of Teague/Nesmith/Trade or Vet/GrantW/Theis
I'd like that but with Langford and Edwards on the roster it is more likely they use Nesmith at SF and don't add one. So bench unit is
Teague/Langford or Pritchard/ Nesmith/GW/Thompson

Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2020, 09:19:08 AM »

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I think you have to play Nesmith. His shooting opens up the court for the slashers. Deep range, good size. Could be the Cs version of Duncan Robinson or even better.

Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2020, 09:44:57 AM »

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I think you have to play Nesmith. His shooting opens up the court for the slashers. Deep range, good size. Could be the Cs version of Duncan Robinson or even better.

He will be better than HErro
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Re: Let's Talk Teague
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2020, 10:22:57 AM »

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Teague is no longer an NBA quality player (worst player on bad Hawks team).  Waters is a lot better than him at this point

So, he can't help in games, but he can help in practice.  similar to Cassell in 2008.

Is it just me, or do some people dramatically overstate Waters' ability?

The guy is a young end of bench guy.  He's pretty much what Phil Pressey was for us a few years back. He's the guy who can be fun to watch and the crowd likes him and he does some good things, but ultimately he's the backup for your backup's backup. Wanamaker was infinitely better then Waters last year, and Wanamaker is hardly a stud.
Gleague ROY, All Gleague 2ND team, and flashed when called up so even though I hate the small pgs I respect that he has played well. He should indeed be third depth chart worthy given how most of the guys who have won that kind of praise year one have made it on NBA rosters. But given his size feel his NBA impact will be too small.

Giving Tre Waters a minimum would also be a good signal that signing to the Celtics on a two-way contract can get you in the NBA if you perform well.