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Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2020, 01:21:54 AM »

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Looks like Bogdanovic is a done deal.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1328581484513464323

Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2020, 01:23:20 AM »

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Sounds like the Bucks aren't done yet, going after Bogdanovic too

https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1328569200479178756

Bucks have like zero picks for the next 5 years(I mean its messy post Holiday trade). So who could they trade to entice the Kings to do this?

maybe divicenzo?

Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2020, 01:25:30 AM »

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Looks like Bogdanovic is a done deal.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1328581484513464323
Interesting. I'm surprised they traded DiVincenzo. He looked like he has some real promise as a player.
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Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2020, 01:29:32 AM »

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Looks like Bogdanovic is a done deal.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1328581484513464323
Interesting. I'm surprised they traded DiVincenzo. He looked like he has some real promise as a player.

They are going all out to make Giannis happy. They got practically swept by the Heat so you have to wonder how much that matchup affected these moves. The Heat totally exploited their weaknesses.

Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2020, 01:32:52 AM »

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Looks like Bogdanovic is a done deal.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1328581484513464323
Interesting. I'm surprised they traded DiVincenzo. He looked like he has some real promise as a player.
DiVincenzo is a really good prospect - fantastic defensive guard with a developing offensive game. Feel that the Kings sold Bogdan a bit cheap though - they could've gotten an extra pick or two out of the deal imo.
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Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2020, 01:37:37 AM »

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Looks like Bogdanovic is a done deal.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1328581484513464323
DDV ain't no scrub, but you gotta give something to gain something else. DJ Wilson is practically dead salary. Ilyasova was a useful role player for them, but meh whatever. He was expendable. I like this deal a lot for the Bucks.

PG: Jrue
SG: Bogdan
SG: Middleton
PF: Giannis
C: BroLo

That's definitely an upgrade over their starting lineup last season. The Bucks are really strong.
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Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2020, 02:03:43 AM »

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That Bucks starting 5 is uh... a serious problem. Don’t think we can beat that lineup unless we make changes / Kemba + Gordy are healthy for a whole year
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Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2020, 02:16:25 AM »

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Looks like Bogdanovic is a done deal.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1328581484513464323

Quite surprised thats all it took. Bogdanovic is clearly a higher talent

I guess for the Kings, better to get something in return

I dont like this trade.  Bogdonavic plays the Celtics hard.... crap

Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #53 on: November 17, 2020, 02:39:44 AM »

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So their starting five would be:

Lopez
Giannis
Middleton
Bogdanovic
Holiday

I still think they will run into the same problems because they don’t have enough shot creators and other then Giannis, no one can get to the line.

Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #54 on: November 17, 2020, 02:40:53 AM »

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So their starting five would be:

Lopez
Giannis
Middleton
Bogdanovic
Holiday

I still think they will run into the same problems because they don’t have enough shot creators and other then Giannis, no one can get to the line.
Bogdanovic and Middleton are pretty [dang] good shot creators.
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Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #55 on: November 17, 2020, 02:43:55 AM »

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That Bucks starting 5 is uh... a serious problem. Don’t think we can beat that lineup unless we make changes / Kemba + Gordy are healthy for a whole year

Looks like I'm the only optimist left on this site. ;D

Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #56 on: November 17, 2020, 02:44:35 AM »

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3 firsts with 2 swap rights is pretty steep. If this doesn’t work this season for Milwaukee and Giannis still leaves, this has all the makings of the Nets disastrous trade with us. This could absolutely decimate their foreseeable future.

Considering they aren’t a free agent destination, they really are pushing all in on their trio. Gutsy move, but something they probably have to do to retain Giannis.

Best part is that Jrue is going to be a free agent next year, too, and he's going to be looking for big money again for one last big contract. He could very well walk next year.
If Giannis signs the supermax, the Bucks won't really care if Holiday leaves after the year.  I mean they will care obviously, but if they keep Giannis for 6 more years and have a better shot at the title this season, you make the trade every single time without a second thought.  They have to keep Giannis though.

Sure but Giannis is not dumb. I can't see him re-signing if Jrue walks and they are left with an empty chest of draft picks on top of it. They would need a miracle to legitimately contend then even with Giannis.
Giannis will be offered the supermax in a week.  He will either sign it or he won't.  Holiday's free agent decision the following summer will be a thing in the past.

Not necessarily. Giannis actually has two windows to take super max. Before the season AND after the season. Just not during the season.

Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #57 on: November 17, 2020, 04:24:12 AM »

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Wow great trade for Bucks..clearly favorites in East for now
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Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #58 on: November 17, 2020, 04:32:17 AM »

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Didn’t realise New Orleans effectively got 5 first round picks. Nice
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Re: Jrue Holiday to Bucks
« Reply #59 on: November 17, 2020, 04:36:52 AM »

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Wow great trade for Bucks..clearly favorites in East for now
Did you read the part where they trade away 3 firsts and 2 pick swaps? :P

I'm a big fan of Jrue's game, but that's a massive overpay. Imo, the Bucks got fleeced. They did upgrade their starting lineup though, that's for sure.