Ryan Rusillo: Hayward “does want out” of his deal

[gouki88]

Trade him in a grand package for Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis

Alongside Jaylen Brown?

[SparzWizard]

Trade him in a grand package for Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis

Alongside Jaylen Brown?

No, I want to keep Brown and Tatum lol. Give 'em our three first-rounders, Theis, and Langford!

[gouki88]

Trade him in a grand package for Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis

Alongside Jaylen Brown?

No, I want to keep Brown and Tatum lol. Give 'em our three first-rounders, Theis, and Langford!

My point was that there's no way Indy give up Sabonis if it's not for an All-Star level young player like Brown

[Kernewek]

Trade him in a grand package for Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis

Alongside Jaylen Brown?

No, I want to keep Brown and Tatum lol. Give 'em our three first-rounders, Theis, and Langford!

My point was that there's no way Indy give up Sabonis if it's not for an All-Star level young player like Brown

I think you make that trade in a heartbeat for the elder Sabonis, but the little I've seen of Domantas doesn't put him on that level?

[Darth_Yoda]

"I can't go into what I know about Hayward or the Hawks due to the confirmation and the CBA. I will say this, the Hawks definitely aren't all in for 2021 and are not afraid to cash in for 2020. "

From the guy with source.

Looks like Atlanta might be quite interested in Hayward. Add to that Boston is very interested in Okongwu and there could be a bit of a smolder here.

[RJ87]

"I can't go into what I know about Hayward or the Hawks due to the confirmation and the CBA. I will say this, the Hawks definitely aren't all in for 2021 and are not afraid to cash in for 2020. "

From the guy with source.

Looks like Atlanta might be quite interested in Hayward. Add to that Boston is very interested in Okongwu and there could be a bit of a smolder here.

.... Who? Are we still talking about Rusillo? Or is there another guy?

Can we at least try to link to articles or provide some sort of concrete info as to where we're quoting things from??

[Darth_Yoda]

"I can't go into what I know about Hayward or the Hawks due to the confirmation and the CBA. I will say this, the Hawks definitely aren't all in for 2021 and are not afraid to cash in for 2020. "

From the guy with source.

Looks like Atlanta might be quite interested in Hayward. Add to that Boston is very interested in Okongwu and there could be a bit of a smolder here.

.... Who? Are we still talking about Rusillo? Or is there another guy?

Can we at least try to link to articles or provide some sort of concrete info as to where we're quoting things from??

From a Hawks fan that apparently (and has been proven right in the past) that has a high up friend in the "know".  Cannot link to him in the open forums cause they will lock down their site to prevent the sharing of the info. But I can PM you the deal. Just, like I say, cannot link to it, and cannot quote all of it or they will lock down their board. (did so in the past.)

Apparently he has MAJOR news, but it is being blocked by the CBA at this point. *shrugs

[RJ87]

"I can't go into what I know about Hayward or the Hawks due to the confirmation and the CBA. I will say this, the Hawks definitely aren't all in for 2021 and are not afraid to cash in for 2020. "

From the guy with source.

Looks like Atlanta might be quite interested in Hayward. Add to that Boston is very interested in Okongwu and there could be a bit of a smolder here.

.... Who? Are we still talking about Rusillo? Or is there another guy?

Can we at least try to link to articles or provide some sort of concrete info as to where we're quoting things from??

From a Hawks fan that apparently (and has been proven right in the past) that has a high up friend in the "know".  Cannot link to him in the open forums cause they will lock down their site to prevent the sharing of the info. But I can PM you the deal. Just, like I say, cannot link to it, and cannot quote all of it or they will lock down their board. (did so in the past.)

Apparently he has MAJOR news, but it is being blocked by the CBA at this point. *shrugs

Aside from the sketchiness of a guy with a friend as a source, there's no deal that makes sense there for the Hawks. Atlanta has cap space, they can sign Gordon outright and keep their pick. There's absolutely no reason for them to engage in a trade of that nature. They'd be far better off signing Gordon and flipping the pick for another impact player.

[Darth_Yoda]

"I can't go into what I know about Hayward or the Hawks due to the confirmation and the CBA. I will say this, the Hawks definitely aren't all in for 2021 and are not afraid to cash in for 2020. "

From the guy with source.

Looks like Atlanta might be quite interested in Hayward. Add to that Boston is very interested in Okongwu and there could be a bit of a smolder here.

.... Who? Are we still talking about Rusillo? Or is there another guy?

Can we at least try to link to articles or provide some sort of concrete info as to where we're quoting things from??

From a Hawks fan that apparently (and has been proven right in the past) that has a high up friend in the "know".  Cannot link to him in the open forums cause they will lock down their site to prevent the sharing of the info. But I can PM you the deal. Just, like I say, cannot link to it, and cannot quote all of it or they will lock down their board. (did so in the past.)

Apparently he has MAJOR news, but it is being blocked by the CBA at this point. *shrugs

Aside from the sketchiness of a guy with a friend as a source, there's no deal that makes sense there for the Hawks. Atlanta has cap space, they can sign Gordon outright and keep their pick. There's absolutely no reason for them to engage in a trade of that nature. They'd be far better off signing Gordon and flipping the pick for another impact player.

IF Gordon opts out.

Where as a sign and trade preserves them capspace.
ie: Huerter, Demon, #6
Hayward #26

Hawks can potentially have 49 million in capspace, making the above trade only has them taking on 18 million in salary, leaving them an almost max salary slot.

So they can beg gordon to opt out, can sign him and draft a player at 6.

Or trade for Gordon, draft at the end of the 1st round, and have a Max contract player sign with them.

I know what I would pick

[Roy H.]

"I can't go into what I know about Hayward or the Hawks due to the confirmation and the CBA. I will say this, the Hawks definitely aren't all in for 2021 and are not afraid to cash in for 2020. "

From the guy with source.

Looks like Atlanta might be quite interested in Hayward. Add to that Boston is very interested in Okongwu and there could be a bit of a smolder here.

.... Who? Are we still talking about Rusillo? Or is there another guy?

Can we at least try to link to articles or provide some sort of concrete info as to where we're quoting things from??

From a Hawks fan that apparently (and has been proven right in the past) that has a high up friend in the "know".  Cannot link to him in the open forums cause they will lock down their site to prevent the sharing of the info. But I can PM you the deal. Just, like I say, cannot link to it, and cannot quote all of it or they will lock down their board. (did so in the past.)

Apparently he has MAJOR news, but it is being blocked by the CBA at this point. *shrugs

Lol.

Why is the CBA preventing “major news”?  So silly.  Don’t believe this nonsense.  People vouched for Celtic Thug before he was proven to be a fraud, too.

I’ve been affiliated with CelticsBlog and the like for two decades.  In that time, I’ve only seen a tiny percentage of “insiders” with any credibility at all.  One was a cousin of Al Jefferson, one gave our staff a tip a day before that the KG trade was going down, and the other two have only discussed things privately with me.  Oh, and I was on a private message board with Bill Simmons, who I’m no longer a fan of.

5 folks in 20 years.  To read RealGM, you’d think that “insiders” were breaking stories on the regular.

[RPGenerate]

"I can't go into what I know about Hayward or the Hawks due to the confirmation and the CBA. I will say this, the Hawks definitely aren't all in for 2021 and are not afraid to cash in for 2020. "

From the guy with source.

Looks like Atlanta might be quite interested in Hayward. Add to that Boston is very interested in Okongwu and there could be a bit of a smolder here.

.... Who? Are we still talking about Rusillo? Or is there another guy?

Can we at least try to link to articles or provide some sort of concrete info as to where we're quoting things from??

From a Hawks fan that apparently (and has been proven right in the past) that has a high up friend in the "know".  Cannot link to him in the open forums cause they will lock down their site to prevent the sharing of the info. But I can PM you the deal. Just, like I say, cannot link to it, and cannot quote all of it or they will lock down their board. (did so in the past.)

Apparently he has MAJOR news, but it is being blocked by the CBA at this point. *shrugs

Lol.

Why is the CBA preventing “major news”?  So silly.  Don’t believe this nonsense.  People vouched for Celtic Thug before he was proven to be a fraud, too.

I’ve been affiliated with CelticsBlog and the like for two decades.  In that time, I’ve only seen a tiny percentage of “insiders” with any credibility at all.  One was a cousin of Al Jefferson, one gave our staff a tip a day before that the KG trade was going down, and the other two have only discussed things privately with me.  Oh, and I was on a private message board with Bill Simmons, who I’m no longer a fan of.

5 folks in 20 years.  To read RealGM, you’d think that “insiders” were breaking stories on the regular.

Al Jefferson's cousin contacted you? That's really cool. I was pretty young at the time, but was that KG trade a surprise when they contacted you?

[Darth_Yoda]

"I can't go into what I know about Hayward or the Hawks due to the confirmation and the CBA. I will say this, the Hawks definitely aren't all in for 2021 and are not afraid to cash in for 2020. "

From the guy with source.

Looks like Atlanta might be quite interested in Hayward. Add to that Boston is very interested in Okongwu and there could be a bit of a smolder here.

.... Who? Are we still talking about Rusillo? Or is there another guy?

Can we at least try to link to articles or provide some sort of concrete info as to where we're quoting things from??

From a Hawks fan that apparently (and has been proven right in the past) that has a high up friend in the "know".  Cannot link to him in the open forums cause they will lock down their site to prevent the sharing of the info. But I can PM you the deal. Just, like I say, cannot link to it, and cannot quote all of it or they will lock down their board. (did so in the past.)

Apparently he has MAJOR news, but it is being blocked by the CBA at this point. *shrugs

Lol.

Why is the CBA preventing “major news”?  So silly.  Don’t believe this nonsense.  People vouched for Celtic Thug before he was proven to be a fraud, too.

I’ve been affiliated with CelticsBlog and the like for two decades.  In that time, I’ve only seen a tiny percentage of “insiders” with any credibility at all.  One was a cousin of Al Jefferson, one gave our staff a tip a day before that the KG trade was going down, and the other two have only discussed things privately with me.  Oh, and I was on a private message board with Bill Simmons, who I’m no longer a fan of.

5 folks in 20 years.  To read RealGM, you’d think that “insiders” were breaking stories on the regular.

Well from what I have read, I don't think the CBA is blocking the news per say, but more that the news he has is dependent on the CBA itself, and he doesn't want to release it out on the forum if it turns out to not be legal once the new CBA agreed.

Dude has been right a number of times.

[RJ87]

"I can't go into what I know about Hayward or the Hawks due to the confirmation and the CBA. I will say this, the Hawks definitely aren't all in for 2021 and are not afraid to cash in for 2020. "

From the guy with source.

Looks like Atlanta might be quite interested in Hayward. Add to that Boston is very interested in Okongwu and there could be a bit of a smolder here.

.... Who? Are we still talking about Rusillo? Or is there another guy?

Can we at least try to link to articles or provide some sort of concrete info as to where we're quoting things from??

From a Hawks fan that apparently (and has been proven right in the past) that has a high up friend in the "know".  Cannot link to him in the open forums cause they will lock down their site to prevent the sharing of the info. But I can PM you the deal. Just, like I say, cannot link to it, and cannot quote all of it or they will lock down their board. (did so in the past.)

Apparently he has MAJOR news, but it is being blocked by the CBA at this point. *shrugs

Aside from the sketchiness of a guy with a friend as a source, there's no deal that makes sense there for the Hawks. Atlanta has cap space, they can sign Gordon outright and keep their pick. There's absolutely no reason for them to engage in a trade of that nature. They'd be far better off signing Gordon and flipping the pick for another impact player.

IF Gordon opts out.

Where as a sign and trade preserves them capspace.
ie: Huerter, Demon, #6
Hayward #26

Hawks can potentially have 49 million in capspace, making the above trade only has them taking on 18 million in salary, leaving them an almost max salary slot.

So they can beg gordon to opt out, can sign him and draft a player at 6.

Or trade for Gordon, draft at the end of the 1st round, and have a Max contract player sign with them.

I know what I would pick

Who is the mythical max guy that makes the 6th pick expendable? Is he already sending signals that he'll sign if they get Hayward to go with Trae? Because the likelihood suggests they'd whiff on a free agent and then they lost a draft pick for a guy they could've signed without giving anything up for. In other words, it's bad asset management. They could sign Gordon at a lower cap figure and then build a trade package around the 6th pick for a Jrue Holiday type.

[Kernewek]

"I can't go into what I know about Hayward or the Hawks due to the confirmation and the CBA. I will say this, the Hawks definitely aren't all in for 2021 and are not afraid to cash in for 2020. "

From the guy with source.

Looks like Atlanta might be quite interested in Hayward. Add to that Boston is very interested in Okongwu and there could be a bit of a smolder here.

.... Who? Are we still talking about Rusillo? Or is there another guy?

Can we at least try to link to articles or provide some sort of concrete info as to where we're quoting things from??

From a Hawks fan that apparently (and has been proven right in the past) that has a high up friend in the "know".  Cannot link to him in the open forums cause they will lock down their site to prevent the sharing of the info. But I can PM you the deal. Just, like I say, cannot link to it, and cannot quote all of it or they will lock down their board. (did so in the past.)

Apparently he has MAJOR news, but it is being blocked by the CBA at this point. *shrugs

Lol.

Why is the CBA preventing “major news”?  So silly.  Don’t believe this nonsense.  People vouched for Celtic Thug before he was proven to be a fraud, too.

I’ve been affiliated with CelticsBlog and the like for two decades.  In that time, I’ve only seen a tiny percentage of “insiders” with any credibility at all.  One was a cousin of Al Jefferson, one gave our staff a tip a day before that the KG trade was going down, and the other two have only discussed things privately with me.  Oh, and I was on a private message board with Bill Simmons, who I’m no longer a fan of.

5 folks in 20 years.  To read RealGM, you’d think that “insiders” were breaking stories on the regular.

Well from what I have read, I don't think the CBA is blocking the news per say, but more that the news he has is dependent on the CBA itself, and he doesn't want to release it out on the forum if it turns out to not be legal once the new CBA agreed.

Dude has been right a number of times.

This is fairly plausible, given how many times the CBA negotations have been extended, however I think trending towards scepticism is also a good idea here.

[gift]

"I can't go into what I know about Hayward or the Hawks due to the confirmation and the CBA. I will say this, the Hawks definitely aren't all in for 2021 and are not afraid to cash in for 2020. "

From the guy with source.

Looks like Atlanta might be quite interested in Hayward. Add to that Boston is very interested in Okongwu and there could be a bit of a smolder here.

.... Who? Are we still talking about Rusillo? Or is there another guy?

Can we at least try to link to articles or provide some sort of concrete info as to where we're quoting things from??

From a Hawks fan that apparently (and has been proven right in the past) that has a high up friend in the "know".  Cannot link to him in the open forums cause they will lock down their site to prevent the sharing of the info. But I can PM you the deal. Just, like I say, cannot link to it, and cannot quote all of it or they will lock down their board. (did so in the past.)

Apparently he has MAJOR news, but it is being blocked by the CBA at this point. *shrugs

Lol.

Why is the CBA preventing “major news”?  So silly.  Don’t believe this nonsense.  People vouched for Celtic Thug before he was proven to be a fraud, too.

I’ve been affiliated with CelticsBlog and the like for two decades.  In that time, I’ve only seen a tiny percentage of “insiders” with any credibility at all.  One was a cousin of Al Jefferson, one gave our staff a tip a day before that the KG trade was going down, and the other two have only discussed things privately with me.  Oh, and I was on a private message board with Bill Simmons, who I’m no longer a fan of.

5 folks in 20 years.  To read RealGM, you’d think that “insiders” were breaking stories on the regular.

Well from what I have read, I don't think the CBA is blocking the news per say, but more that the news he has is dependent on the CBA itself, and he doesn't want to release it out on the forum if it turns out to not be legal once the new CBA agreed.

Dude has been right a number of times.

This is fairly plausible, given how many times the CBA negotations have been extended, however I think trending towards scepticism is also a good idea here.

It does feel like it's been a while since the last "insider" though. I find stuff like that entertaining even when it's not real.