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Re: Map Out Your Ideal, Quasi-Realistic Off-season
« Reply #120 on: October 14, 2020, 12:37:16 PM »

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I am just not sure any deal involving Kemba is 'realistic'. A max player who had several options the previous offseason is seldomly moved within a year of signing that max contract. I remember Dwight Howard was traded pretty quickly after signing with the Hawks a few seasons ago (not quite a max). Griffin was sent to DET soon after he inked his 5-yr max, but I assume both sides knew what they were getting into. The Russell/Wiggins deal was also a mid-season trade, but that worked out for Russell as he is now able to play with his friend.

If we did send out Kemba, it couldn't be to the Knicks or Hawks or anything; we would have to send him to an favorable situation. Even in the IT deal where we sent him to the EC favorites as the presumed starting PG, people are still talking about how evil Danny is. I mean, it's pretty much the reason AD isn't on our team right now.

eh the reason AD isn't on our team right now is because he wanted to play in LA with LeBron

Well, honestly the real reason is because the Rose Rule didn't allow us to make the trade mid-season during 18-19 - giving us two postseasons w/ AD. I do think that if Kyrie had committed - which also would have likely led to Horford committing - Ainge still would have pulled the trigger on the Brown/Smart for AD trade. When Kyrie and Horford left in FA, there was no way Danny could have gone through with it as a path to a Title became a lot more difficult.

If we were coming off of a championship w/AD, Kyrie, Tatum, Hayward, and Horford as our core, then I think it would have been difficult for AD to leave - even w/ Lebron waiting in LA. Not only would our future clearly be brighter, but he would also already have a ring.

Anyway, the past is the past and unfortunately the whole thing couldn't have gone worse for Cs fans. In hindsight, part of me wishes Danny did make the trade last offseason, though. At the very least, it would have kept LAL from winning the Title.


Yeah I think Danny's whole Kyrie / AD plan went down the tubes when Hayward injured his ankle.  Everything was a stack of dominoes from there.
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Re: Map Out Your Ideal, Quasi-Realistic Off-season
« Reply #121 on: October 14, 2020, 12:39:30 PM »

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Given that Butler, Davis and Kawhi were all traded in the last 2-3 years resulting in 2 titles and a finals appearance for their teams I am a little bit un easy that while we outdid all those teams with signing 3 all stars and trading for an all nba guard all star plus multiple very high picks and budding superstars we are still faraway from being real championship contenders.


Sure but how far away would we be from contending if Danny had traded Tatum or Brown for a single season of AD, Kawhi, or Butler, the team lost in the ECF or Finals anyway, and then that guy left in free agency?

The smartest play to try to win a title is to gather pieces that can let you be in the mix for a title for at least 3-5 years.  If you put everything on a single season, chances are you'll get burned.

Just look at the Clippers right now.  One playoff collapse in a weird season and suddenly the fate of their franchise for the next 5-10 years hinges completely on next season.
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Re: Map Out Your Ideal, Quasi-Realistic Off-season
« Reply #122 on: October 14, 2020, 05:41:21 PM »

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Going to make a slight alteration on my initial idea:

Trade 1:
https://tradenba.com/trades/jbDRsBkMH

Boston trades: Daniel Theis, Enes Kanter, Romeo Langford, #30

Memphis trades: Jonas Valanciunas

Why for Boston: Significant upgrade at the C position. Valanciunas has been a beast in Memphis. 16/11 in 27MPG, leaves R Williams ~20 or so minutes as well, a significant uptick from his 13.4 this season. JV also can go with anyone strength-wise.

Why for Memphis: They shed a contract that they probably don't want to keep, as JV doesn't match the age profile of their guys. They get experienced veterans to help them stay in playoff-mode, but these guys won't get in the way of Clarke and JJJ. Also get a 1st round pick and a prospect.

Trade 2:
https://tradenba.com/trades/qT68MPkrl

Boston trades: Kemba Walker, #26

New Orleans trade: Jrue Holiday, Darius Miller

Why for Boston: Adds the 2nd best guard defender in the comp to the team with the best one already there! Downgrade in scoring and shooting but Jrue has more size than Kemba, can pass well and is still a decent scorer. Darius Miller could return to being a good bench shooter if his injury doesn't wreck him.

Why for New Orleans: Adds a more serious scoring threat to play alongside Lonzo, and more importantly a guy who can space the floor much more for Zion to go to work. Add another 1st rounder which could be used on a 3&D wing off the bench to replace what's lost by Miller, but younger and probably better.

Trade 3:
https://tradenba.com/trades/VqzIuHtVI

Boston trades: #14

Philadelphia trades: #21 and #36

Draft:

21. Desmond Bane: Elite of the elite when it comes to 3P shooting, is an NBA-ready body and can play solid defence. Only concern is his wingspan, but with his shooting touch and strength I'm not overly worried.

36. Paul Reed: Defensively reminiscent of Josh Smith, except better at rebounding and less athletic (still very bouncy and long). Smith was a genuine nightmare in his day, good for 2BPG and 1.5SPG in his prime. Could always do with a defender of that calibre.

47. Sam Merrill: Insanely elite shooter, good passer, high IQ. What more could you want? His shooting is really next level, as he can shoot from the mid-range, three, both moving and stationary, both dribbling and off-ball, and is a 90% FT shooter. I think he'll be overlooked because of age, but he'll be great.

Free Agency:

Say goodbye to: Semi Ojeleye, Javonte Green, Brad Wanamaker, Tacko Fall

Extend: Gordon Hayward (4/75)

Resign: Tremont Waters to another 2-way

MLE: Alec Burks

Vet Min: Marvin Williams

Roster for 2020-21:

Jrue Holiday / Marcus Smart / Tremont Waters
Jaylen Brown / Desmond Bane / Sam Merrill
Gordon Hayward / Alec Burks / Darius Miller
Jayson Tatum / Grant Williams / Paul Reed
Jonas Valanciunas / Robert Williams / Marvin Williams

Given the amount of Kemba trade ideas I wasn't really too bothered giving one. I think that team is pretty near unstoppable

TP to gouki88.

Thank you for giving the J's some teammates who'll help win playoff games.