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Quote from: footey on September 10, 2020, 04:42:46 PMQuote from: 86MaxwellSmart on September 10, 2020, 03:27:55 PMQuote from: keevsnick on September 10, 2020, 01:58:03 PMQuote from: Roy H. on September 10, 2020, 01:04:39 PMQuote The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.Is he allowed to challenge a non-call? The rules confuse me.The car I wanted him to challenge came in the first half, on a deflection out of bounds. We should have kept the ball. Instead, Toronto rattled off five straight points cutting into our lead right before halftime. I understand wanting to save a challenge, but I would be inclined to do it on any clear-cut bad call.No, you can't challenge a non call. A whistle essentially has to be blown to challenge something. Off the top of my head weird stuff that happened in this game ref wise. Kemba no callTheis reversal Tatum push off called offensive foul followed by same Siakam push of getting an and-1.FVV landing spot flagrant, but Jaylen hit in air not a flagrant One ref calling jump ball on OG rebound, one giving them timeout, timeout awarded Nurse standing on the out of bounds line on Tatum turnover, should have by rule been a tech. Probably other stuff I'm missing. I am the last person to complain about officiating, I routinely argue with people in the game threads who try to say the ref's are stealing the game, but this was some serious awful officiating.You forgot the Theis dunk in the last seconds of the 4th---where he was CLEARLY fouled on the right arm(arm grabbed actually)....no call, should have been an and one---Game over, series over.I didn't think the foul was that clear. If he had missed, they probably make the call.I also rewatched the Kemba play. Really hard to see if he got hit or just lost his balance. Ref swallowed his whistle for sure, though.OG's hand hits Kemba's forearm solidly. Not just hits it but fingers basically on both sides of the forearm - e.g. solid contact. I broke it down frame by frame and took a picture from two angles. No doubt whatsoever they missed the call
Quote from: 86MaxwellSmart on September 10, 2020, 03:27:55 PMQuote from: keevsnick on September 10, 2020, 01:58:03 PMQuote from: Roy H. on September 10, 2020, 01:04:39 PMQuote The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.Is he allowed to challenge a non-call? The rules confuse me.The car I wanted him to challenge came in the first half, on a deflection out of bounds. We should have kept the ball. Instead, Toronto rattled off five straight points cutting into our lead right before halftime. I understand wanting to save a challenge, but I would be inclined to do it on any clear-cut bad call.No, you can't challenge a non call. A whistle essentially has to be blown to challenge something. Off the top of my head weird stuff that happened in this game ref wise. Kemba no callTheis reversal Tatum push off called offensive foul followed by same Siakam push of getting an and-1.FVV landing spot flagrant, but Jaylen hit in air not a flagrant One ref calling jump ball on OG rebound, one giving them timeout, timeout awarded Nurse standing on the out of bounds line on Tatum turnover, should have by rule been a tech. Probably other stuff I'm missing. I am the last person to complain about officiating, I routinely argue with people in the game threads who try to say the ref's are stealing the game, but this was some serious awful officiating.You forgot the Theis dunk in the last seconds of the 4th---where he was CLEARLY fouled on the right arm(arm grabbed actually)....no call, should have been an and one---Game over, series over.I didn't think the foul was that clear. If he had missed, they probably make the call.I also rewatched the Kemba play. Really hard to see if he got hit or just lost his balance. Ref swallowed his whistle for sure, though.
Quote from: keevsnick on September 10, 2020, 01:58:03 PMQuote from: Roy H. on September 10, 2020, 01:04:39 PMQuote The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.Is he allowed to challenge a non-call? The rules confuse me.The car I wanted him to challenge came in the first half, on a deflection out of bounds. We should have kept the ball. Instead, Toronto rattled off five straight points cutting into our lead right before halftime. I understand wanting to save a challenge, but I would be inclined to do it on any clear-cut bad call.No, you can't challenge a non call. A whistle essentially has to be blown to challenge something. Off the top of my head weird stuff that happened in this game ref wise. Kemba no callTheis reversal Tatum push off called offensive foul followed by same Siakam push of getting an and-1.FVV landing spot flagrant, but Jaylen hit in air not a flagrant One ref calling jump ball on OG rebound, one giving them timeout, timeout awarded Nurse standing on the out of bounds line on Tatum turnover, should have by rule been a tech. Probably other stuff I'm missing. I am the last person to complain about officiating, I routinely argue with people in the game threads who try to say the ref's are stealing the game, but this was some serious awful officiating.You forgot the Theis dunk in the last seconds of the 4th---where he was CLEARLY fouled on the right arm(arm grabbed actually)....no call, should have been an and one---Game over, series over.
Quote from: Roy H. on September 10, 2020, 01:04:39 PMQuote The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.Is he allowed to challenge a non-call? The rules confuse me.The car I wanted him to challenge came in the first half, on a deflection out of bounds. We should have kept the ball. Instead, Toronto rattled off five straight points cutting into our lead right before halftime. I understand wanting to save a challenge, but I would be inclined to do it on any clear-cut bad call.No, you can't challenge a non call. A whistle essentially has to be blown to challenge something. Off the top of my head weird stuff that happened in this game ref wise. Kemba no callTheis reversal Tatum push off called offensive foul followed by same Siakam push of getting an and-1.FVV landing spot flagrant, but Jaylen hit in air not a flagrant One ref calling jump ball on OG rebound, one giving them timeout, timeout awarded Nurse standing on the out of bounds line on Tatum turnover, should have by rule been a tech. Probably other stuff I'm missing. I am the last person to complain about officiating, I routinely argue with people in the game threads who try to say the ref's are stealing the game, but this was some serious awful officiating.
Quote The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.Is he allowed to challenge a non-call? The rules confuse me.The car I wanted him to challenge came in the first half, on a deflection out of bounds. We should have kept the ball. Instead, Toronto rattled off five straight points cutting into our lead right before halftime. I understand wanting to save a challenge, but I would be inclined to do it on any clear-cut bad call.
The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.
Brian Robb@BrianTRobb·1mL2M report is out. NBA says league missed foul call by OG on Kemba Walker at end of regulation.
Quote from: libermaniac on September 10, 2020, 05:25:16 PMQuote from: footey on September 10, 2020, 04:42:46 PMQuote from: 86MaxwellSmart on September 10, 2020, 03:27:55 PMQuote from: keevsnick on September 10, 2020, 01:58:03 PMQuote from: Roy H. on September 10, 2020, 01:04:39 PMQuote The call Stevens should have reviewed was the missed foul on Kemba at the end of the 4th though. That was very evident.Is he allowed to challenge a non-call? The rules confuse me.The car I wanted him to challenge came in the first half, on a deflection out of bounds. We should have kept the ball. Instead, Toronto rattled off five straight points cutting into our lead right before halftime. I understand wanting to save a challenge, but I would be inclined to do it on any clear-cut bad call.No, you can't challenge a non call. A whistle essentially has to be blown to challenge something. Off the top of my head weird stuff that happened in this game ref wise. Kemba no callTheis reversal Tatum push off called offensive foul followed by same Siakam push of getting an and-1.FVV landing spot flagrant, but Jaylen hit in air not a flagrant One ref calling jump ball on OG rebound, one giving them timeout, timeout awarded Nurse standing on the out of bounds line on Tatum turnover, should have by rule been a tech. Probably other stuff I'm missing. I am the last person to complain about officiating, I routinely argue with people in the game threads who try to say the ref's are stealing the game, but this was some serious awful officiating.You forgot the Theis dunk in the last seconds of the 4th---where he was CLEARLY fouled on the right arm(arm grabbed actually)....no call, should have been an and one---Game over, series over.I didn't think the foul was that clear. If he had missed, they probably make the call.I also rewatched the Kemba play. Really hard to see if he got hit or just lost his balance. Ref swallowed his whistle for sure, though.OG's hand hits Kemba's forearm solidly. Not just hits it but fingers basically on both sides of the forearm - e.g. solid contact. I broke it down frame by frame and took a picture from two angles. No doubt whatsoever they missed the callTwo minute report confirms that. Just came out.QuoteBrian Robb@BrianTRobb·1mL2M report is out. NBA says league missed foul call by OG on Kemba Walker at end of regulation.